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IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 04:45 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

Look closely! They are all broke! Even those who have cash on hand have DEBTS THAT EXCEED THEM!

except ONE MAN! Go Paul!!! To the Finish!!!


Lets talk economy now boys... cause aint a one of you who can pay the bills. What does that say for your financial decision making?

And Ron Paul... Debt= 0.

SimpleName
02-01-2008, 04:54 PM
lol...gee...who can finance our country properly? Maybe the man who caused NO DEBT!

JuniorNJ
02-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Seeing debt=$0 is fkn PERFECT. What other man to fix this economy blunder that the US is in then the man that walks the walk

123tim
02-01-2008, 04:57 PM
A few questions:
How would matching funds come into play here?
When do candidates apply for matching funds?
Will everyone accept them except Ron Paul?
How are matching funds determined?

Too bad that this couldn't have come out during all that talk (during the debate) about who could manage the economy.

IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Walking the F'ing walk, haters :~)

Want to know the icing on the cake?

Texas. 140 delegates.

JuniorNJ
02-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Walking the F'ing walk, haters :~)

Want to know the icing on the cake?

Texas. 140 delegates.


Speaking of that, how are our Texan constituents. Are we looking at some good support over there? Also, is Texas a winner-takes-all state?

andy mcdee
02-01-2008, 05:09 PM
one question regarding debt, what consequences will it have apart from the fact that they owe someone money? Are you forced to repay all debts before the general election?

nightlight
02-01-2008, 05:14 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

Look closely! They are all broke! Even those who have cash on hand have DEBTS THAT EXCEED THEM!

except ONE MAN! Go Paul!!! To the Finish!!!


Lets talk economy now boys... cause aint a one of you who can pay the bills. What does that say for your financial decision making?

And Ron Paul... Debt= 0.

The bad news is that Huck has spent 1/3rd of what Ron Paul did and got 3+ times as many votes as Ron Paul. A silver lining in that comparison is that he got ten times more free publicity and all the support from churches.

IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 05:15 PM
I would think so?! Texas knows Ron Paul's record dont they? The words "native son" come to mind...

And of course there is this little this called the Trans Texas Corridor... the candidates may scoff at it as urban legend on the national level, but the citizens of Texas see billboards advertising for it on their drive home!

And we know RP's stance on that issue. Does Texas then?

Agora
02-01-2008, 05:16 PM
impressive! ! !

nodope0695
02-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Wow. Its not hard to see who the real fiscal conservative is. These other morons want to "balance the budget" but can't even do that with their own campaign budgets.

The MSM, if it were credible, should report this kind of stuff.

Paul Revered
02-01-2008, 05:18 PM
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National Taxpayers Union: Only Ron Paul Would Cut Spending

NTU Report: Other Republicans Would Increase Spending by Billions

ARLINGTON, Va. — According to a report released Tuesday by the National Taxpayers Union, Texas Congressman Ron Paul is the only remaining presidential candidate who proposes net spending cuts.

According to the report, Congressman Paul's proposals would cut government spending by over $150 billion, a conservative estimate of the spending reductions Dr. Paul has proposed. The report concludes that the other remaining Republican candidates, Mitt Romney, John McCain and Mike Huckabee, have proposed spending increases of $19.5 billion, $6.9 billion and $54 billion respectively.

"It should come as no surprise that when you crunch the numbers Ron Paul is the only Republican who would actually shrink the size and cost of the federal government," said Ron Paul campaign economic advisor Don Luskin. "Romney, McCain and Huckabee don't hold a candle to Ron Paul - the only true fiscal conservative running for President."

In ten terms in Congress, Ron Paul has never voted for a tax increase or for an unbalanced budget.

The National Taxpayers Union study can be found at www.ntu.org[/quote]

IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 05:19 PM
Im-pressive?

nodope0695
02-01-2008, 05:21 PM
The bad news is that Huck has spent 1/3rd of what Ron Paul did and got 3+ times as many votes as Ron Paul. A silver lining in that comparison is that he got ten times more free publicity and all the support from churches.

If the MSM had given Ron some equal time, he'd have gotten some more votes and perhaps even won a primary/caucus. This is more proof of how f-ed up the MSM really is.

werdd
02-01-2008, 05:22 PM
gravel raised 0 bucks? lol.

raystone
02-01-2008, 05:24 PM
Texas IVR Polls
Margin of Error: +/- 3.6%
Sampling Size: 735
January 10, 2008 Mike Huckabee 26%, John McCain 24%, Fred Thompson 12%, Mitt Romney 11%, Rudy Giuliani 10%, Ron Paul 4%, Duncan Hunter 3%, Alan Keyes 0%, Undecided 8%

CurtisLow
02-01-2008, 05:37 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7149/zzzco6.jpg

This can be posted on other web sites.

IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 05:38 PM
Press Releases
For Immediate Release Apr 9, 2003
For Further Information, Contact:
John Berthoud, Maureen Tell, Peter J. Sepp, (703) 683-5700
War, Deficit Fears Didn't Slow Spending Binge, Non- Partisan Congressional Rating Shows
Taxpayer Group's Scores for Lawmakers Continued Downward Slide in 2002

(Alexandria, VA) – Neither a looming trend toward budget deficits nor a looming showdown with one member of the “Axis of Evil” stopped Congress from spinning on its own familiar “axis” of tax-and-spend last year. According to the widely-anticipated annual Rating of Congress released today by the non-partisan National Taxpayers Union (NTU), the average lawmaker still voted less than half the time to reduce or control the federal burden on taxpayers.

“For the second year in a row, most Members of Congress turned even farther away from the fiscal policies that could help to protect our economic and national security,” said NTU President John Berthoud. “If lawmakers are serious about changing this misguided direction in 2003, then tax relief, spending reductions, and tax system reform should all be at the top of the agenda right now.”

In 2002, the average pro-taxpayer score in the House of Representatives was 41 percent – roughly equal to 2001’s mark. However, averages slumped significantly in the Senate, to 40 percent in 2002 versus 46 percent the year before. The worst averages during 2-1/2 decades of the comprehensive NTU scorecard were posted in 1988, when they plummeted to 27 percent and 28 percent, respectively, for the House and Senate. The highest marks were reached in 1995, when House and Senate averages were 58 percent and 57 percent, respectively. Rating averages had been inching upward until 2001, and have further deteriorated in 2002.

Christopher Dodd of Connecticut (D) earned the dubious distinction of being the lowest-scoring Member of the Senate in 2002, with a total of 8 percent. Texas Congressman Martin Frost (D) rounded out the bottom at 13 percent, nabbing the “prize” for biggest spender in the House.

*************On the other end of the pro-taxpayer scale, the highest scorer in the House was Ron Paul (R-TX), with 88 percent. Paul has claimed the top spot in his chamber for the fourth year running. In the Senate, Jon Kyl (R-AZ) grabbed the highest rating for 2002 with 82 percent, after coming in a very close second for the year 2001.

In 2002, just 36 lawmakers attained scores sufficient to win the “Taxpayers’ Friend Award” (at least 64 percent in the House/70 percent in the Senate). Meanwhile, more than 200 Senators and Representatives posted scores so low that they were tagged “Big Spenders” (26 percent or less in the House/25 percent or less in the Senate).

Unlike those of other organizations, NTU’s annual Rating does not simplistically focus on only a handful of equally-weighted “key votes.” For this reason, it has received praise from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, including former Senator (and “Golden Fleece Award” creator) William Proxmire (D-WI). The Rating is based on every roll call vote affecting fiscal policy (139 House and 115 Senate votes in 2002), and assigns a “Taxpayer Score” to each Member of Congress that indicates his or her commitment to reducing or controlling federal spending, taxes, debt, and regulation.

The 335,000-member NTU is a non-partisan citizen organization working for lower taxes, less wasteful spending, and accountable government at all levels. Note: The 2002 Rating, along with a searchable Rating database from the years 1992-2002, are both available online at www.ntu.org.

http://www.ntu.org/main/press_release_printable.php?PressID=101&org_name=NTU

Ya know, the reason I think people dont get RP? Its stuff like this that makes people think he is too good to be true. They are used to the people they vote for lying to them... the lesser of two evils vote. They hear things like "Ron Paul is the taxpayers best friend" and they cant begin to fathom that statement actually being true.

And they dont do the research. And they vote for... well it really doesnt matter if its not RP now does it? Same trash. Its time to take it out to the curb. And leave it there.

dbhohio47
02-01-2008, 05:54 PM
Well.... it is only telling a part of the story. McCain and Romney have tons of money coming in since that report (thru 12/31/07). Obama has raked in over $32 million in January. RP's cash position is respectable, but is nowhere near being competitive with these other guys.

IowaGarrett
02-01-2008, 05:56 PM
Source?

wgadget
02-01-2008, 06:14 PM
The bad news is that Huck has spent 1/3rd of what Ron Paul did and got 3+ times as many votes as Ron Paul. A silver lining in that comparison is that he got ten times more free publicity and all the support from churches.

And FairTaxers.

wgadget
02-01-2008, 06:16 PM
I just sent this to Drudge. Please do the same.

NeoRayden
02-01-2008, 07:07 PM
Once google approves it I will post a video

NeoRayden
02-01-2008, 07:09 PM
here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5575456130217607321

NerveShocker
02-01-2008, 07:10 PM
here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5575456130217607321

Video doesn't work. Bad link?

NeoRayden
02-01-2008, 07:12 PM
nope google hasnt updated database yet apparently check it in 10 minutes

NeoRayden
02-01-2008, 07:16 PM
when it loads google link is: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5575456130217607321&hl=en

my link is: http://ronpaulischange.com/Documents/rpeco30sec.wmv

mannycp
02-01-2008, 07:17 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

NeoRayden
02-01-2008, 07:29 PM
ok google finally got it going

Onyx
02-01-2008, 08:13 PM
OMG Romney is 35,000,000$ in debt!!!!! How can a guy like this even run this country!!!

d991
02-01-2008, 09:04 PM
OMG Romney is 35,000,000$ in debt!!!!! How can a guy like this even run this country!!!

Well all the debt is owed to himself if I'm not mistaken....and that's an even bigger reason to pray Romney doesn't win, although it is much worse if a campaign is fully funded by special interest groups.

Does anyone else besides me wonder if Romney cries at night wishing he could raise money like Ron Paul does without dipping into his personal wealth? I bet his wife has to comfort him "there there Mitt, once you're president you can force people to like you"

hayeksrevenge
02-01-2008, 09:13 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

Look closely! They are all broke! Even those who have cash on hand have DEBTS THAT EXCEED THEM!

except ONE MAN! Go Paul!!! To the Finish!!!


Lets talk economy now boys... cause aint a one of you who can pay the bills. What does that say for your financial decision making?

And Ron Paul... Debt= 0.

New T-Shirt idea.....

Rudy Giuliani "I spent $60,000,000 in corporate donations in a bid to become president and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

wgadget
02-01-2008, 09:31 PM
New T-Shirt idea.....

Rudy Giuliani "I spent $60,000,000 in corporate donations in a bid to become president and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

Just think about how those corporations feel.