These Ads Are Turning Heads-

[qwerty]

Many people have send me PM/Message and told that they have sent these ads to the un-decided people and got only good responses!!

You should try too, send these ads to everyone you know!

And Help these ads in youtube, view/rate/favourite/comment so we can maximize the audience for these ads...

These are the ads you want to show to the OLD PEOPLE, who are you complaining all the time...

I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ



Spread these ads and tell us what kind of response you get, at this point we have ONLY positive responses!!!

I think these ads are working!

:cool:

[qwerty]

And send these to your fellow Ron Paul-supporters too, Some motivation for them in this hard long battle for freedom....


:)

[qwerty]

You just maid want to send these other messageboards too, i´m getting GOOD responses!!!!!



:)

[chewbacca]

I fucking hate ads with children. Guess that was your first negative response =/.

Seriously tho, cheapest oldest trick in the book. Can't even count the number of times horrible horrible laws have been passed for the "sake of our children".

[Lord Xar]

is this guy offering these for TV? Where is the info, there is not info on how grassroots can use these.

[qwerty]

I fucking hate ads with children. Guess that was your first negative response =/.

Seriously tho, cheapest oldest trick in the book.

Tell us why...?

There are KIDS YOU ARE SMARTER THAN ADULTS, so it´s pretty weird comment since they really can understand ALL THE THINGS they are saying on the video ?

And why it´s a cheep trick, THESE ELECTIONS ARE HUGE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS! THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE DECICIONS!


:cool:

[qwerty]

is this guy offering these for TV? Where is the info, there is not info on how grassroots can use these.

Please, contact him on Youtube!

He will give you his contact info (phone number)...

:)

[qwerty]

Help these ads in youtube, view/rate/favourite/comment so we can maximize the audience for these ads...

[chewbacca]

I clarified my post a little bit. Basicly I just see tons of politicians useing kids as another scare tactic. Fix global warming for your kids future, we need the patriot act to keep your children safe and so on. These ads arent like that. But I think you can communicate ron pauls mesage without using cuteness.

[coffeewithchess]

I fucking hate ads with children. Guess that was your first negative response =/.

Seriously tho, cheapest oldest trick in the book.

I was of the same opinion, but instead of being negative, I decided to start editing these ads and helping out with them...the guy that made these put time into them. HQ has made some of the crappiest ads ever produced by a presidential campaign that I know. The fact is that a grassroots supporter took time to do a positive thing and should be thanked. My attitude was the same as yours, "Children in commercials, they don't even know what they are saying," but my wife as well as another lady said these ads are something that parents and grandparents would maybe pay attention to...

[qwerty]

I clarified my post a little bit. Basicly I just see tons of politicians useing kids as another scare tactic. Fix global warming for your kids future, we need the patriot act to keep your children safe and so on.

But, we are now talking about THESE ads, so what wrong with THESE ads ?


:)

[BreakYourChains]

Good ads! Thanks!

[qwerty]

Good ads! Thanks!

Please, send those to everyone you know!


:)

[qwerty]

It takes only few minutes to send these to everyone you know!


Do it now!




:)

[qwerty]

I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Views: 1,102

Honors for This Video:
#40 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#50 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics


Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

Views: 6,617

Honors for This Video:
#62 - Most Discussed (Today) - News & Politics
#74 - Most Viewed (Today) - News & Politics
#80 - Top Favorites (Today)
#10 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#44 - Top Rated (Today)
#11 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics
#53 - Top Rated (This Week) - News & Politics


He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Views: 719

Honors for This Video:
#36 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#44 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ

Views: 417

Honors for This Video:
#70 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#94 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics





VIEW/RATE/FAVOURITE/COMMENT/SPREAD!

[Feelgood]

is this guy offering these for TV? Where is the info, there is not info on how grassroots can use these.

No, I think it is just more of a way for Qwerty to spam the forums. :rolleyes: Wish there was a way to put people on ignore, so you don't have to see their 10 million posts in a row, and constantly bumping themselves. :rolleyes: It really gets old quick...

[qwerty]

No, I think it is just more of a way for Qwerty to spam the forums. :rolleyes: Wish there was a way to put people on ignore, so you don't have to see their 10 million posts in a row, and constantly bumping themselves. :rolleyes: It really gets old quick...


We understood your point, but some of us want to show these ads to un-decided voters, cause we have had good responses so far...

Some of us want to win these primaries, not have a "pretty forum"...

This is my way to try to reach millions of voters, i don´t live in united states...

You are now the second individual, who are whining about "spamming", so most of the people seem to understand why i do this...


I really wonder what motivates you, maybe you should start your own forum and start moderate that, i won´t come there...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Ex Post Facto]

Very nice ads...great job.

[qwerty]

I was of the same opinion, but instead of being negative, I decided to start editing these ads and helping out with them...the guy that made these put time into them. HQ has made some of the crappiest ads ever produced by a presidential campaign that I know. The fact is that a grassroots supporter took time to do a positive thing and should be thanked. My attitude was the same as yours, "Children in commercials, they don't even know what they are saying," but my wife as well as another lady said these ads are something that parents and grandparents would maybe pay attention to...

Just listen what they are saying on the ads, i really don´t think that those things are too hard for kids to understand...

:confused:

[qwerty]

Very nice ads...great job.


Awesome, please e-mail these to everyone you know!



:)

[qwerty]

Again, positive reactions reported from the un-decided voters!!!!!




:cool:

[qwerty]

Show these videos to the ones you couldn´t convert before!!!!



:)

[AceNZ]

Wonderful ads. Finally, some emotion!

I just wish they were actually being run by the campaign....

[qwerty]

RISING!!!!


I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Views: 1,102

Honors for This Video:
#38 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#47 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics


Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

Views: 6,617

Honors for This Video:
#53 - Most Discussed (Today) - News & Politics
#74 - Most Viewed (Today) - News & Politics
#79 - Top Favorites (Today)
#10 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#41 - Top Rated (Today)
#11 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics
#49 - Top Rated (This Week) - News & Politics


He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Views: 719

Honors for This Video:
#36 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#39 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ

Views: 417

Honors for This Video:
#73 - Top Favorites (Today) - News & Politics
#92 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics




VIEW/RATE/FAVOURITE/COMMENT/SPREAD!

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

BUMP!

:cool:

[Conza88]

TO Obama Supporters: send them to my ad:

IN MY SIG (below). ;)

[Nailhead]

I fucking hate ads with children. Guess that was your first negative response =/.

Seriously tho, cheapest oldest trick in the book. Can't even count the number of times horrible horrible laws have been passed for the "sake of our children".

+1 Pet Peeve of mine as well

It doesn't matter if its a Klan rally, a catholic bake sale, or a Ron Paul sign wave I throw up a little in my mouth when I see a child too young to fully comprehend let alone even be concerned with such matters out spewing whatever rhetoric their elders have instilled in them.

[literatim]

This is spam. How many times do you need to post these?

[the Winner is (R0N P@uL)]

bump for the kids

innocence sells anything

seeing as how Dr Paul has an awesome message it's a perfect mix....

....from the mouth of Babes

[jrich4rpaul]

Can these be on TV? Please?

[Phantom]

Bump!

[Fried Hog]

Are the stars upside down on the flag behind some of the close-ups?

[Opulen]

I totally agree!! Spread this ads. Start viral email campaign! Im sure they couldnt resist this kind.

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ



PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THESE ADS --->WORK<---!!!!!

Send these ads to Ron Paul-supporters too that they can use these to convert new people!!!



:cool:

[qwerty]

This is spam. How many times do you need to post these?

If trying to convert people with various ads is SPAM, then it is...

I don´t care about you and your whining...Go and find something better to do...


:rolleyes:

[freedom-maniac]

These ads will scare older voters.

[qwerty]

DONE!

We can reach millions without ANY COST if these videos get popular!!!!


:cool:

[qwerty]

These ads will scare older voters.

No way, these ads are going to make them think, WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY WE WANT TO LEAVE TO OUR CHILDREN....

Yes, it will SHOCK in a good way, they will see that, THEIR OWN KIDS MUST LIVE IN USA....

:)

[Wyurm]

+1 Pet Peeve of mine as well

It doesn't matter if its a Klan rally, a catholic bake sale, or a Ron Paul sign wave I throw up a little in my mouth when I see a child too young to fully comprehend let alone even be concerned with such matters out spewing whatever rhetoric their elders have instilled in them.

You are entitled to your opinion of course. In fact, I actually agree with it, however, as was stated above, this is a well produced video by a grassroots supporter. More importantly this kind of ad really does work. It doesn't work on many of us because we really don't tend to be highly emotional. We tend to be alot more logical and logic only works on independent thinkers.

Only a fraction of the population is comprised of critical thinkers. If more used logic in their thought process rather than emotion, there would be alot of fake psychics and scammers out of work. Just because more people use emotion isn't a bad thing, it's just different from how most of us here think. The largest problem is that as you pointed out, those who do understand how to use emotion to convey a message often use it to convey a horrific message. In this case the message is positive and all of it is true. Children really would be far better off with Ron Paul.

I like "Vote Ron Paul, for the children!!!!!" alot better than "give up all of your liberty for the children!!!!!". So, while the concept is undesirable to many of us, it is all-powerful to many more people. Do what works.

[qwerty]

Tell me, what issues on the ads are too hard for kids to understand...?

You are really under-estimating kids, some really can understand things...Some are smarter than ADULTS...

Remember that i´m talking about these ads, when i´m asking my question...

[qwerty]

bump!

[qwerty]

bump!

[Verad]

If kids are incapable of understanding issues like this, it's because they have been sent to the wrong types of schools. Contrary to popular opinion, there are some kids who are extremely intelligent. I agree that most kids could not come up with a script quite as good as these, but they certainly can understand the issues when someone merely explains them. Geometry used to be taught in the eighth grade, but has since been pushed towards the ninth or even tenth grade. Are our children getting less intelligent? I highly doubt it. Our schools are getting worse; emphasizing the wrong material, not rewarding independence and intellectual thought until much later, turning schools from a place of learning into a veritable day-care center. It's disgusting. Had I been allowed to progress at my own pace, I may have had been able to start calculus or trig by the eighth grade. The books used for different grades are downright boring for their age (I was reading full-length Star Wars novels by the fifth grade), and then by the time some kids get into high school, they are unable to read at an appropriate level simply because they were not challenged enough. You get what you pay for.

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

Bump!

[Phantom]

GOOD NEWS!

Born Free Die Free video just made the front page of what really happened (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/).

That should generate another 20,000 views.

[qwerty]

GOOD NEWS!

Born Free Die Free video just made the front page of what really happened (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/).

That should generate another 20,000 views.

Awesome, what about Alex Jones-site next ?


I tried to alert the Dailypaul.com to take these ads too to their site, ask them here http://www.dailypaul.com/contact



:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[fuzzybekool]

Why aren't the views on these videos going through the roof?

Is the movement over ???

[qwerty]

Why aren't the views on these videos going through the roof?

Is the movement over ???

Contact some sites and ask them to link these videos...

I have done so!!!


HELP ME!!!!


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

Bump!


:)

[homah]

ads with child actors saying syrupy lines make me kind of ill. that being said, they are well produced and i am probably in the minority in not liking these kind of ads.

[Caravello]

Where were these videos made? Asking b/c the blonde haired crew cut kid who defines patriot is a spitting image of my neighbor's son. I think the kids likes to act too.

[qwerty]

Where were these videos made? Asking b/c the blonde haired crew cut kid who defines patriot is a spitting image of my neighbor's son. I think the kids likes to act too.

PM the the video maker in Youtube....


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

:D

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

VIEW/RATE/COMMENT/FAVOURITE!!!!!




:cool:

[scandinaviany3]

Many people have send me PM/Message and told that they have sent these ads to the un-decided people and got only good responses!!

You should try too, send these ads to everyone you know!

And Help these ads in youtube, view/rate/favourite/comment so we can maximize the audience for these ads...

These are the ads you want to show to the OLD PEOPLE, who are you complaining all the time...

I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ



Spread these ads and tell us what kind of response you get, at this point we have ONLY positive responses!!!

I think these ads are working!

:cool:

They need some work cleaning up but and getting to hard 28-30 sec, and 58-60 rules for TV. But it looks like that is possible.

[qwerty]

They need some work cleaning up but and getting to hard 28-30 sec, and 58-60 rules for TV. But it looks like that is possible.

AWESOME!



:)

[qwerty]

BUMP!


:cool:

[Jaykzo]

Although you're the source of many EXCELLENT ideas and posts here, qwerty, I can't agree with you on this one.


These commercials are terrible, IMO. It makes it look like our base is a bunch of kids. "Support Ron Paul, because we do, and we're in 3rd grade and can't form coherent political opinions!"

I understand what they're trying to accomplish, but I'd be instantly turned off by these.

[qwerty]

Although you're the source of many EXCELLENT ideas and posts here, qwerty, I can't agree with you on this one.


These commercials are terrible, IMO. It makes it look like our base is a bunch of kids. "Support Ron Paul, because we do, and we're in 3rd grade and can't form coherent political opinions!"

I understand what they're trying to accomplish, but I'd be instantly turned off by these.

Or it shows that EVEN kids understand these issues....;)

We haven´t got any response from un-decided voters like that...

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

We are polling pretty badly among women and older people and i think this will help on that!


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

Bump!

[Cindy]

The second one is the best, where the boy says, "In my future he will have to get a job in China" and where the girl says, she won't even be able to a buy a coffee with a $100 bill.

The kids are GREAT to use in that video because it is their future we are destroying and they have no voice save through our votes.

I loved that comercial!!!!

[qwerty]

The second one is the best, where the boy says, "In my future he will have to get a job in China" and where the girl says, she won't even be able to a buy a coffee with a $100 bill.

The kids are GREAT to use in that video because it is their future we are destroying and they have no voice save through our votes.

I loved that comercial!!!!

+1



:cool:

[qwerty]

BUMP!


:cool:

[Arklatex]

bump everyone go commment youtube mentioning the money bomb today!

[tamor]

This ad with a child in it helped win .... 1964

h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tWM27N2La4

[qwerty]

bump everyone go commment youtube mentioning the money bomb today!

+1


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[qwerty]

And Help these ads in youtube, view/rate/favourite/comment so we can maximize the audience for these ads...






:)

[qwerty]

Bump!


:)

[noztnac]

I think these ads are ten times better than anything the campaign has run thus far.

[qwerty]

I think these ads are ten times better than anything the campaign has run thus far.

AGREE!


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[noztnac]

I clarified my post a little bit. Basicly I just see tons of politicians useing kids as another scare tactic. Fix global warming for your kids future, we need the patriot act to keep your children safe and so on. These ads arent like that. But I think you can communicate ron pauls mesage without using cuteness.

We would be the first in this election to use children in ads. I think it's a good idea.
By the way... using has no e and there is built in spell check.
But I respect that you are a Wookie and English is not your native tongue.

[qwerty]

We would be the first in this election to use children in ads. I think it's a good idea.
By the way... using has no e and there is built in spell check.
But I respect that you are a Wookie and English is not your native tongue.

+1



:D

[MattMinnesota]

I fucking hate ads with children. Guess that was your first negative response =/.

Seriously tho, cheapest oldest trick in the book. Can't even count the number of times horrible horrible laws have been passed for the "sake of our children".

I agree, they annoy the hell out of me (and I like kids!). It strikes me as a lame and pathetic attempt at an emotional appeal.

That being said, I'm probably in the minority. If these ads appeal to most people than use them!

[qwerty]

I agree, they annoy the hell out of me (and I like kids!). It strikes me as a lame and pathetic attempt at an emotional appeal.

That being said, I'm probably in the minority. If these ads appeal to most people than use them!

If majority would be like you "cold hard thinkers", don´t you think we would win landslide...

We need different kind of ads, to reach different kind of people...


:)

[MattMinnesota]

If majority would be like you "cold hard thinkers", don´t you think we would win landslide...

We need different kind of ads, to reach different kind of people...


:)

Good point. It's not that I'm a cold hard thinker type - I just see the cuteness and innocence of the kids and don't like them associated with politics I guess. There is just something about a kid repeating lines they may not even fully comprehend that turns me off.

That being said, looking at the ads again I can see how they can be very effective in getting someone to investigate the Dr more.

[qwerty]

Good point. It's not that I'm a cold hard thinker type - I just see the cuteness and innocence of the kids and don't like them associated with politics I guess. There is just something about a kid repeating lines they may not even fully comprehend that turns me off.

That being said, looking at the ads again I can see how they can be very effective in getting someone to investigate the Dr more.

I don´t see what issue on those ads could be too hard for a kid to understand ?

Remember that there are kids who are smarter than adults...

[hypnagogue]

I just see the cuteness and innocence of the kids and don't like them associated with politics I guess. There is just something about a kid repeating lines they may not even fully comprehend that turns me off. Exactly. Children are ultimately manipulatable. They're used in advertising to play on the fact that people are much less scrutinizing of children. The truth is we should be doubly suspicious because children are invariably led into doing advertising and their lines are even more certainly not their own.

This is well known. I have a cynical suspicion that having Ron Paul heavily use ads featuring children with a message, as opposed to simply being real kids, would be pounced on for these reasons.

[qwerty]

Exactly. Children are ultimately manipulatable. They're used in advertising to play on the fact that people are much less scrutinizing of children. The truth is we should be doubly suspicious because children are invariably led into doing advertising and their lines are even more certainly not their own.

This is well known. I have a cynical suspicion that having Ron Paul heavily use ads featuring children with a message, as opposed to simply being real kids, would be pounced on for these reasons.

I think these ads will awake parents/grandparents, cause they need to understand that those innocent beatifull children will have to live with decicions that their parents make today...

I think it will open EYES...It will make people see that vote for lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil...

It´s not taking kids to politics, it´s that GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL SUFFER IF YOU CHOOSE WRONG MAN...

[InLoveWithRon]

Why shouldn't kids be in political themes??

Aren't politicians always raving-" Vote for me, and better your kids future" etc ?

[qwerty]

Why shouldn't kids be in political themes??

Aren't politicians always raving-" Vote for me, and better your kids future" etc ?

Yes, that´s what´s all about making fixing USA for future generations!

Making sure that your children don´t have to go to IRAQ, etc etc...

People, should allways think like "What if my children"!

[Paul Revered]

I posted this on MySpace.

[thuja]

i do not like children in ads either, they squeak. but i think lots of people do, and this appears to be intelligent children who are not being exploited.

[expatriot]

I think these ads will awake parents/grandparents, cause they need to understand that those innocent beatifull children will have to live with decicions that their parents make today...

I think it will open EYES...It will make people see that vote for lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil...

It´s not taking kids to politics, it´s that GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL SUFFER IF YOU CHOOSE WRONG MAN...

Very Well Stated. - ;);)

My own take is that any children participating in such advertisements
intrigue other children to actually think about the issues at stake.

Whether or not they fully grasp it is irrelevant.
What is important is that they have the opportunity and the exposure
to begin the thought processes at an early age, long before they arrive
at adulthood instantly saddled down with the baggage the NeoCons
have in mind to inflict upon them.

Right now we are looking at a vast sea of adult faces who have
never even considered the issues about where the NeoCon road leads.
A few of us have been watching this unfold, but discussing with people
who have for 8 long years behaved as if we were complete basket cases
has instructed us well as to the depths of ignorance that pervades
the American voting public.


In Simpler language - would you rather see your child learn the day after
her 18th birthday that she is to report immediately to boot camp
as a compulsory draftee - or would you rather her grow up learning
about this dreadful moment in advance
with some time to consider what kinds of alternatives may be explored?
(Some of us view McCain's 100 year wars with a particularly personal loathing)

[qwerty]

I posted this on MySpace.

THANKS!

:)

[qwerty]

Very Well Stated. - ;);)

My own take is that any children participating in such advertisements
intrigue other children to actually think about the issues at stake.

Whether or not they fully grasp it is irrelevant.
What is important is that they have the opportunity and the exposure
to begin the thought processes at an early age, long before they arrive
at adulthood instantly saddled down with the baggage the NeoCons
have in mind to inflict upon them.

Right now we are looking at a vast sea of adult faces who have
never even considered the issues about where the NeoCon road leads.
A few of us have been watching this unfold, but discussing with people
who have for 8 long years behaved as if we were complete basket cases
has instructed us well as to the depths of ignorance that pervades
the American voting public.


In Simpler language - would you rather see your child learn the day after
her 18th birthday that she is to report immediately to boot camp
as a compulsory draftee - or would you rather her grow up learning
about this dreadful moment in advance
with some time to consider what kinds of alternatives may be explored?
(Some of us view McCain's 100 year wars with a particularly personal loathing)

+1


:)

[qwerty]

i do not like children in ads either, they squeak. but i think lots of people do, and this appears to be intelligent children who are not being exploited.

Yeah, we need different ads to reach different people!


:)

[qwerty]

Bump!

[literatim]

Why are these being spammed repeatedly?

[wrinklepup]

As a Mother of six children, I love these ads...
and for all you, who think that kids do not understand what is happening around the world...They do, or most do.

I would be more afraid of what their teachers are teaching your children...just like my youngest son, last week was having a debate with his teacher about government. I was shocked at what my son was telling me. Atleast my son knows and understands the truth. So please listen to your children...This is their future we are trying to protect.

[Leslie Webb]

Agree with the post objecting to using children in ads. See the AARP ad on Social Security, for example, or the GM and Toyota ads on environmentally friendly cars. What do the kids in these ads know about the future unfunded liabilities of Social Security or the legitimate questions some scientists have raised about the inevitability of global warming?

You can imagine the same kids in the Ron Paul ad appearing in an ad supporting the Iraq War. The long-haired girl says, 'We have to stay in Iraq because we have to defeat the terrorists " , the short-haired boy says 'We have to stay in Iraq because we can't just cut and run', the girl with short hair and earrings girl says "We have to stay in Iraq because our country's honor is at stake.", etc.

We have to persuade the Republican base that we cannot have guns and butter, as Ron argued so well in the debate last Wednesday. We have to persuade them by fleshing out arguments such as the following. A declining economy and collapsing dollar are a greater threat to our national security than Iran or other Middle Eastern nations. We cannot handle the $9 trillion dollar debt and the $50 trillion plus in unfunded liabilities for Social Security and Medicare unless we retrench from overseas. War and big government go hand in hand, and the Iraq War under Bush has created the biggest increase in federal spending since LBJ. The specters of 'Islamic terrorism' and '100 years of war' are neoconservative fantasies; peace will come to the Middle East through the spread of capitalism, free markets, and rising prosperity.

I'm sorry, but I don't think using children is the best way to make these arguments. I think children can help to pull at the heart-strings of conservatives by emphasizing that Ron Paul is not a big government leftist, but is for capitalism, free markets, the Constitution, etc. However, the Republican base still has a national security hang-up. I think the only way we can get them over it is through hard facts and figures and concrete policy proposals.

I hope there is enough time in the campaign for Ron's recently hired advisers to come up with concrete proposals on withdrawal from Iraq and tax and spending reductions for the first year and succeedidng years of his Administration. When confronted with the hard facts of proposed tax and budget cuts that would shame even Barry Goldwater versus the continued spendthrift irresponsibility of McCain and the neocons, some of the talk radio hosts, pundits, and conservative leaders may begin to turn, and then we can get the base.

[qwerty]

As a Mother of six children, I love these ads...
and for all you, who think that kids do not understand what is happening around the world...They do, or most do.

I would be more afraid of what their teachers are teaching your children...just like my youngest son, last week was having a debate with his teacher about government. I was shocked at what my son was telling me. Atleast my son knows and understands the truth. So please listen to your children...This is their future we are trying to protect.

+1


:)

[WATYF]

yeah, sorry... I couldn't watch any of these past about 20 seconds or so. These kids could have been saying anything. It doesn't take much for a political activist (no matter what their beliefs) to get their kids to read off of a script. I'm sure it appeals to some demographic, though.

I agree that the commercials coming out of HQ really suck. That's kinda dissappointing. There are a few good grassroots ones out there that I really think would work, though. These (http://youtube.com/user/jblackpost) come to mind. And these (http://youtube.com/user/frankdogg).


WATYF

[qwerty]

yeah, sorry... I couldn't watch any of these past about 20 seconds or so. These kids could have been saying anything. It doesn't take much for a political activist (no matter what their beliefs) to get their kids to read off of a script. I'm sure it appeals to some demographic, though.

I agree that the commercials coming out of HQ really suck. That's kinda dissappointing. There are a few good grassroots ones out there that I really think would work, though. These (http://youtube.com/user/jblackpost) come to mind. And these (http://youtube.com/user/frankdogg).


WATYF

THEY ARE NOT FROM HQ....

WHERE DOES SAY THAT THEY ARE FROM HQ ?


:mad:

[WATYF]

THEY ARE NOT FROM HQ....

WHERE DOES SAY THAT THEY ARE FROM HQ ?


:mad:

uh... it doesn't say that they're ads from HQ... and suprisingly enough, neither do I. Notice how my comment about lousy ads from HQ is in a different paragraph and responds to other's comments in this thread about HQ ads being lacking.


WATYF

[qwerty]

uh... it doesn't say that they're ads from HQ... and suprisingly enough, neither do I. Notice how my comment about lousy ads from HQ is in a different paragraph and responds to other's comments in this thread about HQ ads being lacking.


WATYF

Yeah, sorry i mis-read it...

English isn´t my first language...;)

[noztnac]

yeah, sorry... I couldn't watch any of these past about 20 seconds or so. These kids could have been saying anything. It doesn't take much for a political activist (no matter what their beliefs) to get their kids to read off of a script. I'm sure it appeals to some demographic, though.

I agree that the commercials coming out of HQ really suck. That's kinda dissappointing. There are a few good grassroots ones out there that I really think would work, though. These (http://youtube.com/user/jblackpost) come to mind. And these (http://youtube.com/user/frankdogg).


WATYF

It will appeal to old people... the ones that vote. People under thirty are probably put off by them but they tend not to vote.

[noztnac]

All of the ads do not need to be the same. Just because you don't respond to these does not mean they aren't reaching a key demographic. Right now all of the ads run by HQ are going for the exact same demographic. We've hit a ceiling. It's time we diversified a bit.

[qwerty]

It will appeal to old people... the ones that vote. People under thirty are probably put off by them but they tend not to vote.

+1

:)

[coffeewithchess]

All of the ads do not need to be the same. Just because you don't respond to these does not mean they aren't reaching a key demographic. Right now all of the ads run by HQ are going for the exact same demographic. We've hit a ceiling. It's time we diversified a bit.

+100 The campaign has GOT to do something to get the media talking...

[Frankie Lee]

because 7 year olds care about an income tax

using children in ads = despicable.

[coffeewithchess]

because 7 year olds care about an income tax

using children in ads = despicable.

Ask a 7 year old for half of his candy after he gets it at a parade. They understand the issues at a different level. The level that Mike Huckabee talks to the people at, a child level.

[WATYF]

It will appeal to old people... the ones that vote. People under thirty are probably put off by them but they tend not to vote.

If this is indeed true, then more power to them.


WATYF

[qwerty]

Bump!

[bojo68]

I agree generally with the position that using kids in ads is often somewhere from silly to despicable. That said however, I think there are instances in which it can be not only worthwhile but well done. Myself, the 3rd ad didn't bring much, and like most of the Democrat ads simply proves that a supposed adult can program a child, and that whoever did it thinks that I'm so dense that I'll fall for that. The others on the other hand did bring out good info, and make points that one could actually believe.
One other thing, the KID SHOULD HAVE THEIR EYES OPEN, not just reciting with eyes closed to avoid the light as in one of them.

[suzypotaka]

Many people have send me PM/Message and told that they have sent these ads to the un-decided people and got only good responses!!

You should try too, send these ads to everyone you know!

And Help these ads in youtube, view/rate/favourite/comment so we can maximize the audience for these ads...

These are the ads you want to show to the OLD PEOPLE, who are you complaining all the time...

I am a Patriot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FXgGRQIxg

Born Free Die Free

http://youtube.com/watch?v=94JcUda2qnI

He is Ron Paul!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s019TwlIWXM

Ron Paul American Dream Revision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMlqS047IQ



Spread these ads and tell us what kind of response you get, at this point we have ONLY positive responses!!!

I think these ads are working!

:cool:
These ads are awesome!