DC GOP snubs Ron Paul supporters at straw poll

[Bradley in DC]

So, after paying $150 each to attend the reception, Lincoln-Douglass (that's Fredrick Douglass) dinner and straw poll at the DC GOP, we were snubbed.



That is why I was surprised when after the reception and dinner they had some schmuck announce the straw poll results: jokingly referred to write-ins for Captain Morgan and Richard Nixon and then skipped to "in second place [with no vote totals] Mitt Romney..." The Paul table (there were others of us scattered around, but my table was front and center -- kudos to Craig for forking over the extra big bucks for that), well, we protested, shouted, etc.

Long story short, Dr. Paul came in third (one at our table was an observer at the ballot counting), Mitt second and McCain first. No totals were announced (and they weren't going to mention us or Huckabee--and reportedly Obama got a vote). They have still not released the vote totals.

Paul Craney came over afterwards to apologize. I relayed to him several times that everyone was really pissed. He explained, as he has previously, that there are so few Republicans in DC that he needs all of us and has tried to be as inclusive and helpful as possible.

[B]So, in the end, they'll take our money and want our votes so long as they can pretend we're not really there. Sorry, just needed to vent.

And I'm the one who's been forwarding this around to the DC Ron Paul people:


THE D.C. REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE, THE HONORABLE ROBERT DOLE, KARL ROVE, FORMER R.N.C. CHAIRMEN KEN MEHLMAN AND FRANK FAHRENKOPF INVITE YOU

To The DC Republican Committee's
Annual Lincoln Douglass Day Dinner & Straw Poll

TOMORROW
6:30 PM Straw Poll
7:30 PM Dinner will be Served

Special Guest Speaker will be
Ms. Maria Cino
C.E.O. of the 2008 Republican National Convention

Located At:
The Galleria at Lafayette Center
1155 21st Street, NW
Washington, D.C.

-Republican Presidential Straw Poll Will be Included-
-Less Than Two Weeks Before D.C. Republican Primary-

TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE
To R.S.V.P. Immediately,
contact us at phone number: 202/ 289-8005 or email at: info@dcgop.com

Please visit us at www.dcgop.com for ticket prices

Paid for by the DC Republican Committee
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate committee

1275 K Street, NW Ste 102 I Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202 289-8005 I Fax: 202 289-2197 I Email: info@dcgop.com I Website: www.dcgop.com

[UziSprayTF]

damn dude, that f---ing sucks. They love to s--- in their own breakfast.

[integrity]

makes one feel like a second class citizen, or worse.....

[ckhagen]

wow... they are getting so desperate. It's beyond obvious at this point.

So, was Karl there? I met him recently... obviously I had no intentions of telling him where my allegiance lies.

[Cleaner44]

The GOP is like the Oakland Raiders, they are completely down and out. The party needs to be totally rebuilt and overhualed.

[me3]

Bradley, we need to get this blogged and on all of the political sites.

DC GOP fleeces Ron Paul supporters.

Don't take this lying down. In fact, I would get a list of the DC Ron Paul people in attendance, and forward a letter to the DC and National GOP. DC is one place Dr. Paul absolutely has to have a voice.

[Revolution9]

I got a size ten motorcycle boot for their ass you can borrow. Its fully charged with the howitzer mode roundhouser. Take them out and Huckabee and Norris in one fell swoop versus their foul sweep.

HTH
Randy

[Myerz]

This is my last year as a Republican.

[Bradley in DC]

Bradley, we need to get this blogged and on all of the political sites.

DC GOP fleeces Ron Paul supporters.

Don't take this lying down. In fact, I would get a list of the DC Ron Paul people in attendance, and forward a letter to the DC and National GOP. DC is one place Dr. Paul absolutely has to have a voice.

Paul Craney did come right over afterwards and apologize, explained the guy announcing the results was a volunteer trying to be a comic (it wasn't funny) and not a party official (which is true) and that he's going to put out a statement announcing the straw poll results, the real ones, tomorrow.

Again, Paul has treated us really well and generally been more helpful and responsive than HQ during the ballot petitioning, etc., and on some personal issues for some of our people, but it still really pissed everyone off.

[Bradley in DC]

I got a size ten motorcycle boot for their ass you can borrow.

HTH
Randy

Hey Randy,

Thanks. Haven't seen you in a while, was getting worried. Actually, they snubbed Huckabee worse than us (never announced him ever even after we protested and they told us third).

[fj45lvr]

Like usual, with the MSM and others they are LAUGHING at you!!!! They have the same smug attitude as McCain who will have his pants pulled down around his ankles as the MODERN DAY DUKAKIS!!!!

It's easier to build a new building than to try to "restore" an old one infested with termites and dry rot.

Maybe the dozers can just sweep the wreckage off to the side for us.

[RoamZero]

This is why we need an organized Ron Paul coalition that would be willing to strong arm the party if necessary. Grade the people up for election. And if the person fails the Ron Paul standard, guess what? We all vote the opposing party.

[virginiakid]

Thats how it is where I live. Very pro-establishment, very crooked politics, etc.... Where I live, the Republican party will endorse a democrat before they would endorse one of their own if they feel that their establishment is in danger and they have done it before to.

[gerryb]

Was the $150 paid in cash?

If not, cancel the checks or reverse the CC charges if you guys feel you didn't get what you paid for =P.

[Shink]

That makes it official--after the delegate process, I'm dropping the GOP like a bad habit.

[dawnbt]

This is my last year as a Republican.

+1000

[libertarian4321]

I'd say stop giving money to these a-holes.

At this point, straw polls are utterly meaningless, and that money would be better spent going to the Ron Paul campaign or one of the grassroots efforts.

[devil21]

It was all explained when I read "Karl Rove".

[literatim]

This is my last year as a Republican.

Yes, run because it is always easier to scurry away with your tail between your legs when it turns out not to be easy.

[jumpyg1258]

This is my last year as a Republican.

This is my first and last year as a republican. I only joined the party cause of Ron and have had no plans on staying in due to how I and the rest of us Ron Paul Republicans have been treated. I will most likely switch to 3rd Party or back to Independent after this election.

[OferNave]

That makes it official--after the delegate process, I'm dropping the GOP like a bad habit.

Don't be a reactionary. We need to take over the GOP, not just stand in the corner and pout.

[Jodi]

I got a size ten motorcycle boot for their ass you can borrow. Its fully charged with the howitzer mode roundhouser. Take them out and Huckabee and Norris in one fell swoop versus their foul sweep.

HTH
Randy

LOL I love your way.

[TexFootballMom]

This is my first and last year as a republican. I only joined the party cause of Ron and have had no plans on staying in due to how I and the rest of us Ron Paul Republicans have been treated. I will most likely switch to 3rd Party or back to Independent after this election.


I became a republican during Reagans run from a Dem.
I was going to register Independent last year when I found out Ron Paul was running for President.
So I stuck it out on the Republican party just for voting Ron Paul.
After he gets elected, I'll change to Ind. Unless of course, Ron manages to get the Rep Party back to where it should be.

[jarofclay]

Our Republican party is going to kick ass when we are done with it. *grabs hammer*

[tom4ronpaul08]

lets form a new republican party

[agaiziunas]

--and reportedly Obama got a vote).

LOL!!!!

[gerryb]

Anyone who is registering as 3rd party after this election.

WHY??

You're fellow Ron Paul Republicans running for local office, congress, and senate NEED your support and votes during their primaries and elections.

[Stealth4]

Did washington insiders promise McCain the nomination in return for staying in the party, supporting bush and other republicans?

[fletcher]

I've always voted almost solid Republican, with the exception of the occasional Libertarian, but the GOP has completely lost me. After this election I will register Independent and not support any Republican unless I know they are a Ron Paul Republican. Fuck the GOP. They have no principles, no integrity, and no class.

[Shink]

Don't be a reactionary. We need to take over the GOP, not just stand in the corner and pout.

You're a riot. If there are some Ron Paul Republicans for me to vote for, I'll change to GOP for the day. When it's my time to run, I'll probably run Independent. I've seen no evidence of anything good coming out of the GOP since Goldwater, aside from Ron Paul.

[OferNave]

You're a riot. If there are some Ron Paul Republicans for me to vote for, I'll change to GOP for the day. When it's my time to run, I'll probably run Independent. I've seen no evidence of anything good coming out of the GOP since Goldwater, aside from Ron Paul.

I didn't say the Republican party is good. That's not why I want you to join the GOP. I want you to join so we can MAKE IT GOOD. What part of that do you not to understand?

Third party is impossible in America. We can try to change that, and we should, but it will take decades. So in the meantime, you can stand in the corner and pout, or you can join the many thousands of us that are already working our way into the party structure to take it over.

What's better, fighting two massive entrenched enemies, or hijacking one and using it to combat the other?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=108138

See?

[Ball]

If that happened to me, I would have tipped tables and left in disgust.

[Dan Klaus]

My donation amount today just went up....this serious motivates me to put these GOP sheep out to pasture...thanks for the update Bradley....

[Perry]

So, after paying $150 each to attend the reception, Lincoln-Douglass (that's Fredrick Douglass) dinner and straw poll at the DC GOP, we were snubbed.



That is why I was surprised when after the reception and dinner they had some schmuck announce the straw poll results: jokingly referred to write-ins for Captain Morgan and Richard Nixon and then skipped to "in second place [with no vote totals] Mitt Romney..." The Paul table (there were others of us scattered around, but my table was front and center -- kudos to Craig for forking over the extra big bucks for that), well, we protested, shouted, etc.

Long story short, Dr. Paul came in third (one at our table was an observer at the ballot counting), Mitt second and McCain first. No totals were announced (and they weren't going to mention us or Huckabee--and reportedly Obama got a vote). They have still not released the vote totals.

Paul Craney came over afterwards to apologize. I relayed to him several times that everyone was really pissed. He explained, as he has previously, that there are so few Republicans in DC that he needs all of us and has tried to be as inclusive and helpful as possible.

[B]So, in the end, they'll take our money and want our votes so long as they can pretend we're not really there. Sorry, just needed to vent.



That's really incredible. Does he know that he''s a two-faced s.o.b?
Just f*ing incredible...

[muabhcirk]

The GOP does not want conservatives in the party. I hope that Ron will run under a third party and that all of his supporters continue to support him and his message. Ignore that crap about "a vote for Ron is a vote for the dems". The republican party doesn't deserve our support if Ron is not on the ticket as a republican. Its time for change, and voting for socialists, no matter what letter is beside their names, is not the way to get it.

[lasenorita]

Time for some music to reflect this thread's mood: Apologize - Timbaland Presents OneRepublic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHfyDxy8i5o).

[Carole]

If Ron Paul does not win this election....

I am higly recommending we deliver the Republican Party a message.

Enmasse we boycott the Republican Party just as we did Fox News.

We pick a day and have a Republican Party Drop Out Bomb!!!

This is the only way we can get them the message is to make an impact all at once just like we do with money bombs.
:D::D:D

To be fair and balanced though...read this thread

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=108229

[literatim]

You're a riot. If there are some Ron Paul Republicans for me to vote for, I'll change to GOP for the day. When it's my time to run, I'll probably run Independent. I've seen no evidence of anything good coming out of the GOP since Goldwater, aside from Ron Paul.

Independents rarely get elected. You will just be wasting everyone's time.


If Ron Paul does not win this election....

I am higly recommending we deliver the Republican Party a message.

Enmasse we boycott the Republican Party just as we did Fox News.

We pick a day and have a Republican Party Drop Out Bomb!!!

This is the only way we can get them the message is to make an impact all at once just like we do with money bombs.
:D::D:D

To be fair and balanced though...read this thread

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=108229

Boycotting it? They want us gone. They would be cheering.

[liberteebell]

Boycotting it? They want us gone. They would be cheering.

They don't necessarily want US gone but they want us to keep our mouths shut and just help elect republicans (well, all but Ron Paul).

Oh yeah, they'll take our money and are loving seeing the influx of new people to the party, just don't remind them of the republican creed or any other principles they're supposed to stick to.

[CelestialRender]

Sounds like DC and La. have more in common than just the "chocolate cities" and general widespread political corruption.

[Mortikhi]

This is my last year as a Republican.

Same here (pub for almost 20 years since I was 18).

It may also be my last year as an American.

[slacker921]

The local GOP in a nearby county (Iredell) here in NC has refused to even put Paul on the ballot for their straw poll citing "Paul will likely not be a Republican at the time of the election this fall.". I agree that it's simply time to stop supporting them financially if they aren't going to support us. A sign wave/protest with the media there is in order.

The GOP will not survive November without us. This isn't just me saying it.. polls are confirming it. They're taking the group who raised the most money last quarter and totally alienating them.

[Sunshinysmile]

Don't be a reactionary. We need to take over the GOP, not just stand in the corner and pout.

Yes, I thought that was the point! Ron Paul is a Republican! We are rebuilding this party. I am tired of lying ass democrats faking out Blacks and Hispanics. I want this party to go back to its origins. Kick the bums OUT! Learn the tricks and use them to KICK THE BUMS OUT!

People need a choice...and it should be THE CONSTITUTION. Sound money, mind our own business, take care of home first!

I am a first time republican, former uncommitted, former democrat. I would rather spend my time rebuilding this party. Maybe that is because I don't know squat about the L Party.

[XelR8r]

Thank you for your service.

I hope people reading this understand that we can never go back to the Rep. party. They have mocked and cheated us way too much. We would all have to be submissive bitches to play nice ever again.

[torchbearer]

Welcome to the revolution. I have an ammo box reserved for you Bradley. In time, you will have the courage to use it. ;)

[LJHudd]

This is my last year as a Republican.Same for me and my hb. We've told the GOP fund raisers who call our home phone this very thing. I'm pretty sure they're hurting for cash right now... if not yet... soon.

.

[literatim]

Leaving the GOP will do nothing. They want us to leave for heaven's sake!

Cowards, the whole lot of you.

[torchbearer]

We are planning a counter-coup in Louisiana, we are starting to organize now to take over our state central committee.
We have the numbers to do it.

[torchbearer]

//

[literatim]

We are planning a counter-coup in Louisiana, we are starting to organize now to take over our state central committee.
We have the numbers to do it.

This is the kind of stuff that people should be doing.

[torchbearer]

This is the kind of stuff that people should be doing.

I wish everyone in the revolution would make the time to watch this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

It will blow your mind... It will give you clarity of purpose... You will know what to do...

Please watch it.. then PM me, we will need to talk.
THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE!

[torchbearer]

//

[Bradley in DC]

The DC GOP has still not released the actual results from our straw poll last night. We had one of our long-time DC GOP activists, Adrian, as our official observer for our campaign monitor the voting. Trust me, if Adrian suspected a hint of shenanigans we'd all know. There wasn't. (McCain first, Romney second, Paul third)

So, why not just announce the actual results? Isn't our money as good as the McCain and Romney money?

[torchbearer]

I wish everyone in the revolution would make the time to watch this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

It will blow your mind... It will give you clarity of purpose... You will know what to do...

Please watch it.. then PM me, we will need to talk.
THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE!

^^^ watch it.

[Bradley in DC]

http://arentfox.com/people/index.cfm?fa=profile&id=81

Craig Engle was the schmuck who doesn't think Dr. Paul and Huckabee are worth mentioning. Apparently our money isn't as good as Romney and McCain's to him.

Craig Engle
Partner
Washington, DC
202.775.5791
engle.craig@arentfox.com

[kickzman]

This is my last year as a Republican.

The whole system is screwed- So not much luck their, trust me I was a Democrat turned republican and its all the same. You have a leftist McCain winning here and Artillery on the other side. Its now a ONE party system...

[ckhagen]

We are planning a counter-coup in Louisiana, we are starting to organize now to take over our state central committee.
We have the numbers to do it.

Same here in my county. It's actually going to be cake. We out number them 2 to 1 if I can get the majority of our members to show up. Even with the few that we do have (including myself) on the REC, we have a majority on nights where they barely meet quorum. This is WAY easier than some of you think it is. They're starving for members and money.

[torchbearer]

//

[sgrooms]

This is my last year as a Republican.

instead of having that attitude, why don't we spend the next few years getting our party back?

[Bradley in DC]

Here is the message the DC GOP finally put out:

DC Republicans,

Last night's annual Lincoln Douglass Day dinner and Republican Presidential Straw Poll was a great success. We had over 320 Republicans attend to what proved to be a great event. I want to thank everyone that came and helped make this happen.

I am pleased to announce the results of the Straw Poll: Senator John McCain came in first 43.5% of the vote. Governor Mitt Romney rounded out second with 35.3%, Congressman Ron Paul organized a strong third place with 8.1%, America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani scored 6.4% and Governor Mike Huckabee showed at 5.1% of the vote. I want thank each of the candidates, the volunteers, and the delegates who came last night to show their support for their candidates. It is because of their hard work, that DC Republicans will have for the first time in a long time, five very qualified candidates to choose from on the February 12th DC Republican Primary.

If you would like to get involved in any of these campaigns, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Robert J. Kabel
Chairman

Paid for by the DC Republican Committee
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate committee

1275 K Street, NW Ste 102 I Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202 289-8005 I Fax: 202 289-2197 I Email: info@dcgop.com I Website: www.dcgop.com

[OKRonPaul]

We had over 320 Republicans attend to what proved to be a great event.
Congressman Ron Paul organized a strong third place with 8.1%,



so that would be 26 votes for RP, does that seem right to you Bradley?