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ForTheRevolution
01-31-2008, 06:52 PM
So I'm a college student and spend half my life on facebook...(yea, lame), but I found out one of my best friends calls himself a Libertarian. I found this ridiculous because he caucused (we're in IA) for Obama. How can someone support Obama when they classify themselves as a Libertarian? He said it was only because Paul doesn't have a chance in hell to get the ticket. If everyone would just look beyond the "can't win" attitude a vote for him, HE WOULD WIN.

Normal regular non-political people don't want their vote wasted....how can we get across the truth that voting for FREEDOM and LIBERTY is not a waste??

(I still haven't figured out how a Lib can support a socialist....they're kinda extreme opposites:confused:)

HippyInASuit
01-31-2008, 06:54 PM
He's a brainwashed sheepish pleeb.

fedup100
01-31-2008, 06:56 PM
That is only because they do not understand caucus procedures nor the delegate situation. Paul can win this easily without the msm or the popular vote. This is much like a complicated chess game. Just hang in there, study the caucus and delegate process in your state, be a part of it and he will win.

HazardPerry
01-31-2008, 06:57 PM
We need to have a state under our belt. MAINE we need you more than ever now. For once in it's life Maine is the most important place in the universe.

kill the banks
01-31-2008, 06:58 PM
voting for a neocon is a wasted vote ~ tides change

kill the banks

CTAC
01-31-2008, 07:06 PM
My answer to that: It's not only about votes and elections. It's also about message. Ron Paul sends very important message, and because of our support other polititians are changing their vews and positions.

Ron Paul was raising issues about economy. Now, other candidates started talking about smaller goverment and conservative spending. Rudi, who was concentrating on war and security is out. Others got the message and shifting.

Your vote may not be sufficient to choose the right candidate, but it will ensure that your voice is heard, and other candidates will have to change their position to get your vote in the final election.

derdy
01-31-2008, 07:12 PM
If Ron Paul got a vote everytime someone said "He can't win" he would have already won the nomination.:p

liberteebell
01-31-2008, 07:14 PM
If Ron Paul got a vote everytime someone said "He can't win" he would have already won the nomination.:p

+1,000,000

WilliamC
01-31-2008, 07:15 PM
This is the power of the MSM.

They are the ones who planted the idea that "he just can't win"

They perpetuate the idea.

Unplug from the matrix.

Use you television to watch DVD's.

Use your computer for information.

dude58677
01-31-2008, 07:18 PM
This is why he needs an endorsement from Joe Namath. Seriously!

Acidlump
01-31-2008, 07:22 PM
How about when Tom Brady and the NE Patriots win the Superbowl and they ask him the question.. "Well now you've won the superbowl several times, what will you do now?" and he will reply in front of a huge audience "I'm voting for RON PAUL on SUPER TUESDAY! WOOOOOO"

I can dream

Myerz
01-31-2008, 07:23 PM
This is why he needs an endorsement from Joe Namath. Seriously!

Is he sober?

Dave Pedersen
01-31-2008, 07:24 PM
That is why it is imperative to show large crowds of people rallying for Ron Paul someplace in every video made. Especially the official television advertisements.

dude58677
01-31-2008, 07:26 PM
Is he sober?

The point is about his Super Bowl guarentee from Super Bowl 3. I think hw could go on tv right after a debate with Ron Paul and say "Ron Paul will win, I guarentee it". So what is wrong with that?

yanksforpaul
01-31-2008, 07:27 PM
For what it's worth, I'm very libertarian but that's just because I think that's the absolute best political philosophy - I don't think socialism is bad, however, if it's done right (like many European countries). So I can definitely see how one could support both ideologies. For example, I'd vote for Kucinich if he was a front runner in the race and Paul dropped out.

Though I wouldn't vote for Obama if I had Paul as a choice.

robmpreston
01-31-2008, 07:27 PM
Saying you're a libertarian is the cool thing to do. Most of the sheep don't even know what libertarian principles are.

Original_Intent
01-31-2008, 07:29 PM
So I'm a college student and spend half my life on facebook...(yea, lame), but I found out one of my best friends calls himself a Libertarian. I found this ridiculous because he caucused (we're in IA) for Obama. How can someone support Obama when they classify themselves as a Libertarian? He said it was only because Paul doesn't have a chance in hell to get the ticket. If everyone would just look beyond the "can't win" attitude a vote for him, HE WOULD WIN.

Normal regular non-political people don't want their vote wasted....how can we get across the truth that voting for FREEDOM and LIBERTY is not a waste??

(I still haven't figured out how a Lib can support a socialist....they're kinda extreme opposites:confused:)

Ask him what he wins for picking a "winner" that does not represent his principles.

The only wasted vote is one either not cast at all, or cast against your beliefs. How people have been suckered into doing this I still can't figure out.

LEK
01-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Doesn't anyone vote their conscience anymore?

gerryb
01-31-2008, 07:35 PM
Sounds like your friend completely wasted his vote, and even worse, voted for something he could not possibly believe in if he is a Libertarian.

dude58677
01-31-2008, 07:39 PM
1) Tell him about 1996 and Ron Paul.

2) Even if he doesn't win tell them that at least you can sleep at night.

Goldwater Conservative
01-31-2008, 07:39 PM
Somebody should make a Facebook or Myspace application where you can pledge support for Paul, even if you think he's a "long-shot," and see how many other people in the country, your state, and your congressional district also support him, compared to the numbers needed for him to "win." When people realize just how many other people think like them, they might change their minds about not voting for him.

I've also suggested expanding this into its own site, HeCantWin.com.