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01-31-2008, 06:25 PM

Ron Paul Roundup (01-31-08)
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Hello Freedomphiles! So, last night was the CNN Debate. There are two things that stuck with me afterward. The first is how bitter and snipey McCain and Romney have been. Here's hoping they destroy each other and Ron Paul can walk right in.

The second is, damn, what a smooth-talker is Mike Huckabee. If Ron Paul had the Huckster's charisma, everyone else would have conceeded already. His answer to the "who is more like Reagan" question at the end was superb. (Although Ron's answer was good, too.) My thought was, "Why speculate, Ronald Reagan already did endorse Ron Paul:


Now, Right-libertarian Gary Wood writes (http://www.nolanchart.com/article1568.html) over at The Nolan Chart that John McCain agrees with Ron Paul 100%:

However, a key moment in the debate was when Republican Presidential Front-Runner, Senator John McCain, turned to Ron Paul and declared he was in 100% agreement with him on the issue of out-of-control spending. Although Ron Paul was all but ignored for most of the debate and Governor Huckabee was nearly as shut out it was refreshing to finally hear Senator McCain recognize a major problem with Washington D.C. has been the excessive rate of spending.

Ron Paul has been attempting to get the message out for the entire campaign that those in Washington bear much of the burden for the economic turmoil gripping this country. The root cause of much of the problem is bad policy. Among the policies Dr. Paul has discussed is the vast expansion of the Federal Government which is counter to true Republican Party roots. It is also a key reason the GOP lost in 2006.

True. What Gary didn't mention is that this is a watershed moment for Ron Paul. For the first time that I can remember, the other candidates are taking him seriously, and he is affecting the debate in a demonstrable way. I'm sure they look at his fervent grassroots army enviously, and want to get them desperately.

Reuters, of all places, commented (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/01/30/huckabee-paul-stress-they-are-part-of-republican-race/) on Ron Paul's lack of talk time at the debate:

Paul, who has not won any of the early primary contests but still has raised millions of dollars from supporters, was not able to detail his credentials. "I would like to take one minute, since I didn't get a chance to answer this discussion on conservative versus liberal," he said.

Moderator Anderson Cooper promised him he would have an opportunity later. But it never came.

Moving on from the debates, top-diamond libertarian Lazarus writes (http://www.nolanchart.com/article1560.html) on The Nolan Chart what we should do if - gasp! - Ron Paul fails to win the Republican nomination:

If Paul loses the nomination, and chooses to run as an independent, then the obvious answer would be to vote for him and not the Republican nominee. I realize that this would probably result in a Democratic victory (which could happen even if Paul supporters for the nominee), but it would force Republicans to take Paul supporters/small-government advocates seriously next time around.

If Paul loses the nomination and refrains from running as an independent, then I believe the best Paul surrogate would be the Libertarian party. It is generally recognized that many libertarian voters vote Republican (instead of Libertarian) because of the small-government platform in a "viable' party. So libertarian voters would be read to be dissatisfied Republicans. So if the Republicans lose to the Democrats and their margin of lose is less then the votes the Libertarians get, the Republican Party may realize that it needs to welcome us back into it's tent and promote a platform that meets some of our needs, lest it continue to lose elections.

While a Democratic win is not something a Republican normally advocates for, if that is the only way to ensure that sometime in the near future we have a Republican Party that believes in small-government again, so be it. I believe that a Republican victory under the current platform of big-government conservatism would only ensure that their platform does not change in the foreseeable future, which would mean that small-government advocates would have no home under either of the two big tents.

I agree with this. I have thought about it a lot, and if Ron Paul fails and doesn't run as an independent, it seems to me that I will either vote libertarian again, or if there seems to be momentum behind it, write in Ron Paul.

The National Taxpayer's Union did a study (http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=991&org_name=NTUF)on all the candidates and found that Ron Paul is the only one left in the race that wouldn't grow the government:

The eight candidates proposed a combined total of 189 items that would increase federal spending, 24 items that would decrease it, and 238 items whose budgetary impacts are unknown -- in addition to dozens of sub-items further detailing program components. The four respective frontrunners in the two parties (John McCain, Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama), proposed overall fiscal policy agendas whose net effect would raise annual federal outlays between $6.9 billion and $287.0 billion.
The top-tier GOP candidates often portrayed as "conservative" (Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee) actually called for significantly larger spending hikes ($19.5 billion and $54.2 billion, respectively), than the so-called "moderate conservative" (John McCain, $6.9 billion).
Among Democrats, Barack Obama, often described as ideologically more "moderate" than Hillary Clinton, actually has the larger agenda of the two ($287.0 billion vs. $218.2 billion).
Defense-related spending items received the highest proposed spending increases among Republican candidates. Huckabee and Romney, for example, offered $67.2 billion and $40.6 billion, respectively. Among Democrats, Clinton's biggest boost goes toward health care ($113.6 billion) and Obama's for economy, transportation, and infrastructure ($105.0 billion).
Two of the eight candidates proposed sufficient spending cuts that more than offset their new spending plans: Rudy Giuliani (-$1.4 billion) and Ron Paul (-$150.1 billion).

I wonder how much they spent on that study, cause they could have just called me and discovered the same thing.

Remember the dude I talked about a while back that got fired from the campaign cause they found out he was a Klan member? He's kinda pissed about that. MLive reports (http://blog.mlive.com/saginawnews/2008/01/sacked_paul_volunteer_i_dont_h.html):

A former Midland County coordinator of GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul's campaign said he was never asked nor sent a questionnaire about his ties to the Ku Klux Klan.

Randy G. Gray II, 29, a self-described grassroots volunteer who campaigned door-to-door for the Texas Republican, also said he had no formal ties to the candidate's national organization.

"Nobody asked anything," said Gray, who acknowledges membership in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. "I figure, why volunteer information if they don't need it?"

The Midland resident said he joined the Paul election bandwagon on his own to learn about political activism and because he agreed with the Texas congressman on "90 percent" of the issues.

The Cornell Daily Sun had a phone interview with Ron Paul, and are writing (http://cornellsun.com/node/27084) a three-part piece on him:

Of all the Republican candidates in the primary, no one stands out as much as Ron Paul. Paul may not have racked up the votes or delegates aside from a second-place finish in Nevada, but he has made numerous waves on the Internet and additionally has set single-day fundraising records. On the issues, he often stands alone in debates with his calls for an immediate and unconditional withdrawal from Iraq, but he also sets himself apart on domestic issues with his calls to abolish the Federal Reserve, welfare, the Department of Education, and most federal agencies. While his prospects for winning remain weak, Paul has still managed to receive a decent amount of attention from others and enthusiasm for his campaign. Despite Ron Paul's unexpected publicity and momentum, for a lot of people he still remains an enigma...

...Opinions of Ron Paul rarely appear in shades of grey. On one side, fervent supporters of Ron Paul cover all the sidewalks of Cornell University with chalkings about Paul, and on the other side, many fervently describe him as an insane lunatic. Others also find themselves turned off by the belligerence of his supporters. While Paul does understand how his fans can appear zealous at times, he struggles to understand those who hate not his fans but him. "I don't understand that completely, but I would agree that supporters do get very, very determined and they are very, very strong," said Paul. Paul says he does not try to act in a polarizing manner, yet at the same time, he adamantly refuses to compromise on the issues of personal liberty and the Constitution. "I deliberately make an attempt not to be provocative," claims Paul, "but not to ever give up on the principle." And no matter where his momentum or his supporters go, Ron Paul will probably still continue to make his decisions based on the principles of personal liberty and the Constitution.

If you'd like to listen to the interview they conducted, click here (http://www.uwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/UWireRonPaul.mp3).

CBSNews is writing (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/30/politics/uwire/main3773582.shtml) about young supporters putting boots to pavement - rather than just fingers to keyboards - for Ron Paul:

Adam Wood walked from door to door, each slamming in his face. He was in a far away state, yet every person in the Botany Woods suburb of South Carolina seemed to hate him. The police were called, and an officer motioned for Wood, Lawrence junior, to come have a chat.

The police officer told Wood he needed a solicitor's license to canvass for Ron Paul, and Wood politely denied the statement. The police officer thought carefully then gave his reply.

"Well, you be careful," he said. "I wouldn't want you to get shot."

Wood was campaigning for Republican presidential candidate Paul in South Carolina over winter break, and continued to canvass despite saying a gun was pulled on another campaigner in Iowa. Wood was one of four KU students who campaigned in Iowa the last week of December, and one of two to later continue on to South Carolina in early January. These students were involved in a presidential campaign that is largely grassroots.

Wood said the days in Iowa were long. He and the other students campaigning stayed in a cabin in the rural part of the state. They would leave by 8 a.m., campaign door to door all day, take a quick break for dinner and make phone calls for Paul at night.

Wood said the trip, which he and the other students paid for themselves, was worth the money and time because he thought Ron Paul was one of the only honest men left in politics who could make changes in the country. He said there were problems with foreign policy, the economy and domestic issues, and Ron Paul was the only man who could fix them.

"If we don't fix these problems now, we won't have much time to fix them," Wood said.

Katherine Mangu-Ward writes (http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124708.html) over at Reason that Topps is doing presidential candidate cards:

People talk politics like they talk sports, especially during the primary season. They bet, they yammer about the "horserace," they yell at the TV, etc. And now the metaphor will be complete.

The Wednesday after Super Tuesday, just a little too late to be relevant, trading card maker Topps is introducing Campaign 2008 cards of all 12 candidates "including Senator John Edwards, Rudolph Giuliani, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Joseph Biden and former Senator Fred Thompson--who," according to their press release, "have already exited the race."

If you live in Alaska, there's a Ron Paul town hall meeting tonight (http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080130006426&newsLang=en):

The Ron Paul 2008 Alaska presidential campaign invites Anchorage-area voters to a town hall meeting on privacy and individual liberties on Thursday, January 31 at 7:00 p.m. The Q&A session will be held at the Ron Paul 2008 Alaska State Headquarters in Anchorage at 3339 Fairbanks St., near 34th and Old Seward, behind the Moose's Tooth.

"Congressman Paul is the leading advocate for individual freedoms in the presidential race," said Paul Alaska state political director Craig Bergman. "His opposition to Real ID and the Patriot Act proves that he is the sole presidential candidate devoted to the protection of American civil liberties, as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Alaskans need Ron Paul fighting for their rights as President."

And if you live in Seattle, there will be an event (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004155554_dige31m.html)at the opening of the new Seattle HQ:

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul will be in Seattle today to open a Washington state headquarters and meet with University of Washington students.

The Republican congressman from Texas also will deliver an economic speech to an invitation-only group of businesspeople.

The opening of the campaign office at 4341 University Way N.E. is at 1:15 p.m. and is open to the public.

He'll meet with students at 2 p.m. at the Husky Union Building on the UW campus. That event also is open to the public.

And finally, top-diamond libertarian creator writes (http://www.nolanchart.com/article1542.html) on The Nolan Chart that you need to donate to the Ron Paul campaign tomorrow to commemorate the 51st anniversary of Ron and Carol:

Ron and Carol Paul are icons of hope - hope for our future, our life, and the hope for any possibility of wealth for our children and our grandchildren. More and more Americans are waking up to this hope. Are you among them? Do you have or hope to one day have a family that you would gladly give your life for?

If you would give your all for your family, why not begin today by pledging a modest gift of your toil, of your labor, to support and to further an American Dream, the dream of a new Hope for America, of a new day in Washington? Will you give a little to gain a lot? Will you stand with thousands of other Americans on February 1st to honor a man and his wife, a couple who have lived together for 51 years, demonstrating and proving the worth of the God-given sacrament of marriage?

Ron and Carol Paul have lived an exemplary life. Dr. Paul has had the strength and vision to persist and to carry on the fight for the Constitution of the United States, for lawful, limited government, and for truth, justice, and the American way - but not by himself! His hand has been strengthened by his loyal and devoted wife Carol. She has stood by him through thick and thin, no doubt feeling the pain of the many slights and myriad dishonors heaped upon him by neo-cons, media pundits, and mindless bloggers.

And now for agapecpu's Video Roundup:

CNN California Debate:


And Murray Sabrin talks Ron Paul:



02-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Post-debate: Paul on foreign policy, economy
Media Current "Frontrunners" - McCain and Romney fight over Iraq timetables
Simi Valley, CA Post Debate Rally Speech
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Fek1kGSzU
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGaxcwX6vuU
Ron Paul:Once In A Lifetime 2.0