Should we be focussing more on Vote integrity than anything else?

[Kombaiyashii]

Ron Paul will never improve because it's rigged. That is unless we do something about it before it is stolen.

I think we need to centralise some infastructure to counter this. So far we've got a bit here and a bit there but it's not a main issue for us, yet I believe the best way we can improve his results is to watch them every step of the way. Follow them down to the smallest chains (because this is where it happens).

This will be the cheapest and easiest way to help Ron Paul, to make the riggers life a living hell.

If we don't do this, they'll do it again and again and do is in the midterms and do it in the next election. If we can make a strong well managed force now, then we'll hurt them badly and next time we will have it down to perfection.

[alienpyro]

name recognition

[acptulsa]

Absolutely. Have you enlisted as a potential volunteer for blackboxvoting.org yet? Get to it!

[jblosser]

As important as this is it should be obvious that we have to have the votes before counting them has relevance. Get the votes to win, then make sure they are counted correctly. Otherwise you're just counting the other people's votes.

[VoluntaryMan]

Should we be focussing more on Vote integrity than anything else?

Not more than voting, no, but it does need to be addressed, where there's credible evidence.

[JordanQ72]

Depends what you believe we really got in terms of votes. If you think we've been robbed of 100s of thousands of votes, then go for it, otherwise, you should probably do something else.

[Nadia]

Yes, you are correct. What is the point of all the grassroots work if they are stealing the election?

McCain is winning? Does anyone believe that? The guy is nuts- he is not a very good speaker- he wants to 'bomb bomb bomb Iran!' WTF! If they can fix elections(and they can easily) they will.

The majority of both Democrats and Republicans want to end the war in Iraq sooner rather than later, and NO ONE wants war in Iran(except for Limbaugh and Savage) Who is voting for McCain? This country is in sorry shape if people really believe he is the best we have to offer...

A recent poll in Iowa had 54% of Republicans wanting all of the troops home within 6 months.
http://cmondisplay.com/2007/10/21/majority-of-iowa-republican-caucus-goers-favor-iraq-withdrawal-within-6-months/

[Kombaiyashii]

Not more than voting, no, but it does need to be addressed, where there's credible evidence.

No, we need to be pre-empting them. Keeping an eye on these people all the way through the process. We don't want to have to force recounts and then do it.

It's like we are paying playing snakes and ladders, we go up the hard long way and then on the last square, we go down a snake all the way back to the starting point.

[steve005]

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[steve005]

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[me3]

If you haven't signed up as a Precinct Leader, but have time to cry about voter integrity, then please relocate yourself.

This forum is about getting Ron Paul elected. And anyone who watched the grassroots training videos knows that these side show issues, while important, take away from the effort to get votes.

We're spreading ourselves thin, trying to fight on several fronts at once with limited resources.

And if you are still worried about voter integrity, then you should be volunteering as a poll worker, and participating as a delegate candidate.

Stop blaming the system and make an impact with the path provided to you.