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nerevarine
01-31-2008, 09:18 AM
At the end of the debate last night, Cooper told everyone they were invited to be in on the California debate with the democrats tonight.




I really think Dr. Paul should attend. This would be historical and there would be no way the media could black this out. It gives him one more shot to show America what he is made of before the Super Tuesday primaries.

WilliamC
01-31-2008, 09:19 AM
It depends on if this were a serious invitation or just a gimmick by Anderson Stupor to make any candidates trying to show up look foolish.

Vendico
01-31-2008, 09:21 AM
I think he should and give the reason that he was promised time to give his credintials but was never allowed to.

DeafPalmdale
01-31-2008, 09:21 AM
Well, I don't think Paul would go because he has other commitment in Washington state today.

brandon
01-31-2008, 09:22 AM
you're all retarded.

nerevarine
01-31-2008, 09:24 AM
I think he should and give the reason that he was promised time to give his credintials but was never allowed to.

thats a great arguement. That could segue (sp?) into an actual debate on who would do a better job in the white house. seeing as most dems are in disgust with the gop right now, it would let them take another look at Dr. Paul since he is so different on the issues.

Mini-Me
01-31-2008, 09:25 AM
This would never happen, but it would be amazing to see him debate the Democrats. All of the disenfranchised one-issue Democratic viewers would see what a REAL anti-war candidate looks like ;)

matthylland
01-31-2008, 09:27 AM
that debate is going to be so boring with just Hillary and Obama....I would never even consider watching that

nerevarine
01-31-2008, 09:27 AM
This would never happen, but it would be amazing to see him debate the Democrats. All of the disenfranchised one-issue Democratic viewers would see what a REAL anti-war candidate looks like ;)



i think this is where he could really make some noise before super tuesday and really get people thinking instead of just being told who to vote for.

Gimme Some Truth
01-31-2008, 09:28 AM
I think the pros would outway the cons. Some republicans (neocons) would spout the old "he fits in with the liberals better than the republicans" but I think he could get a lot of democrats(anti (iraq) war) to switch allegiances and vote for him.

Whether or not Cooper meant that they could take part in the debate or merely sit in the audience is another matter..

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driller
01-31-2008, 09:32 AM
If he attended it would make him look more like a nut job and despirate. They would use that to make him the joke of the world.

JMann
01-31-2008, 09:37 AM
He wouldn't ever get a chance to speak and we have all learned now that Paul doesn't want the job bad enough to actually insert himself in the debate. If he can't handle that kitty Anderson Cooper how is he to lead the country?

traitorist
01-31-2008, 09:39 AM
Ron Paul should have showed at the Republican debate like he is capable of engaging in hostile territory and is in this to fight and win. never mind the Democratic debate.

Mini-Me
01-31-2008, 09:41 AM
Yeah...it's kind of a shame he apparently has other plans, because Anderson Cooper would totally shit his pants on national TV if he saw Ron Paul stroll up to the debate. Obviously the invitation was not serious, but if Paul actually showed up, I can't see CNN really getting themselves out of that one. It would be such a historic event, and he really would mop the floor with all of those fakers. While Hillary's crowd is so delusional they will not be swayed, much of Obama's support comes from confused youth who are just fed up with what they've been given and have been hoodwinked by his vague promises of "change." Many of them have never been exposed to a real conservative in their entire lives. Ron Paul sometimes has a hard time with Republican voters because most mainstream Republicans are too brainwashed to even let themselves believe that anything is wrong in this country in the first place. However, the disenfranchised youth who support Obama are smart enough that they KNOW something is wrong; they've just been tricked into thinking the problem is too little government (when it's really too much government). These people really are not all the diehard socialists we like to think of them as; they just don't see any alternatives. If Paul and Obama were on the same stage debating with each other, I think Paul's clear economic experience and specific solutions to our problems could actually win over a lot of Obama's base. Up until now, most of these people have probably written off Paul solely because he's a Republican, and they also have likely latched onto all of the smears as an emotional self-justification for ignoring him. This would all change if Paul was right in front of them debating Obama - they would no longer be able to avoid him or continue to ignore the fact that he knows what he's talking about. Plus, he wants to end the war on drugs, which would score HUGE "cool points" for Paul when he's standing next to Obama.

DeanToPaulIn4Years
01-31-2008, 09:51 AM
insanity - doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. if you can't take the hint from what happened last night, you never will. if they invite him to appear tonight, they will treat him the same way again. it's time for Paul to start taking a different approach. if he's going to attend these things he should seriously start mocking these jokes hosting the debates because they are MOCKING HIM.

he should start to explain why dimwit newsreaders who push corporate propaganda actually make the people stupider, and explain that he's trying to help the American people get control of their country again, rather than continuing to let these dopes run it into the ground.

if he's really going to stand up to them, then fine, but no more of this "butt of the joke" crap. it's getting old, and Ron simply doesn't have the confrontational nature necessary to call them out on it. he NEEDS TO INTERRUPT THESE FUCKING DOPES and make fun of them over and over again and DEMAND that he be given a chance to speak. POLITICIANS CAN CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT 'NO' FOR AN ANSWER WHEN THEY WANT TO SPEAK. ALMOST ALL OF THEM DO IT. DR. PAUL, IT'S TIME YOU DID THE SAME.

i love his overall nature, i've loved his answers in the debates, i respect the way he's handled himself in the past, but it's time to move in a different direction, IMO.

DeanToPaulIn4Years
01-31-2008, 09:52 AM
Yeah...it's kind of a shame he apparently has other plans, because Anderson Cooper would totally shit his pants on national TV if he saw Ron Paul stroll up to the debate. Obviously the invitation was not serious, but if Paul actually showed up, I can't see CNN really getting themselves out of that one. It would be such a historic event, and he really would mop the floor with all of those fakers.

you, my friend, refuse to learn difficult lessons.

Mini-Me
01-31-2008, 10:17 AM
you, my friend, refuse to learn difficult lessons.

Hardly, and I don't appreciate being patronized. I'm well aware that the mainstream media is doing everything they can to stop Ron Paul in his tracks. However, in case you haven't noticed, it's not a total 100% blackout. The reason for this is that the media has to throw him a few cookies to have plausible deniability and keep red flags from flying in the minds of "Joe Schmoe" voters - and in case you didn't notice, a lot of people actually did start paying attention to Ron Paul last night specifically because of the blatant bias (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/30/what-do-you-think-of-tonights-gop-debate/) (I don't think this is just a case of diehard Ron Paul supporters swarming the site with comments, either). After Cooper's invitation, he really could not go back on it if Ron Paul actually showed up while the cameras were rolling - such a decision would have wayyyyy too much blowback (especially because of how historic Paul's arrival would be), and CNN knows it. Would Paul be mostly ignored? Yes, mostly - but the five seconds he'd have to speak could really turn the heads of a lot of Obama's supporters. Remember that they like him because they see him as fresh and genuine...but he only looks that way because he's standing next to Hillary.

The media could potentially try to spin his arrival as "desperate," and that is an issue, but at this point, any publicity is probably good publicity, and Paul could probably play it off like he's just doing the Republican party a favor by turning more voters conservative ;) Such an unprecedented occurrence would create a sensation one way or another, and while some might take it to mean, "Ron Paul is crazy," others might take it to mean, "You know what? This guy really IS something special."

It's not going to happen, though - I'm just speaking hypothetically.

BrooklynZoo
01-31-2008, 10:41 AM
the Democratic debate is not moderated by Anderson Cooper, but Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer at least would have been a better choice for the Republican debate.

amonasro
01-31-2008, 10:48 AM
you're all retarded.

Thank god, some sense :)