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parke
01-30-2008, 10:03 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?

murph
01-30-2008, 10:06 PM
I do. Just read the Communist Manifesto and you'll see how far we have come during this past century to realizing Marx's dream. We have arrived, comrade!

parke
01-30-2008, 10:09 PM
I do. Just read the Communist Manifesto and you'll see how far we have come during this past century to realizing Marx's dream. We have arrived, comrade!

Seeing as how Ive never followed Communism... maybe I should read up on whats to come.:(

Cleaner44
01-30-2008, 10:10 PM
Yes, this is why Republicans are baffled and frustrated. Their top 2 candidates are socialist Neocons. They bought this Neocon fascist bullshit and now they want a refund.

iiguns
01-30-2008, 10:10 PM
Seeing as how Ive never followed Communism... maybe I should read up on whats to come.:(


1st tip, start saving toilet paper.:(

parke
01-30-2008, 10:14 PM
1st tip, start saving toilet paper.:(

LMAO...

I dont know if anyone else remembers that commercial from the late 80's about 'cheap toilet paper'.. it was a knock on communism and people had to tell down a line what they were waiting in line for.

'cheap toilet paper'

Needed the laugh.. thanks.:D

RonPaulFTFW
01-30-2008, 10:15 PM
commies?

that's a bit off.
More like capitalist greedmongers.

Devil_rules_in_extremes
01-30-2008, 10:17 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?

We are there. The diversion away from The Constitution, and the diminished state of the sovereign individual will lead this country to the way of Rome.

mello
01-30-2008, 10:18 PM
I wish. I saw a couple of Russian News videos on youtube about RP that were more fair & balanced than almost all of the crap the MSM has been shovelling out.

MaidenFan
01-30-2008, 10:24 PM
Quit this negative attitude people. We're not in the USSA, USSR, Nazi Germany, or anything like that. And we NEVER will be!

Why?

Because as long as we keep fighting we can not lose. But that's the key we must keep on fighting. We must fight the tough battle. At times what seems like an impossible battle. We're facing a system which has been carefully constructed over decades. We're not gonna win overnight, heck we might not win over the course of an entire election cycle. But I promise you, that as long as we keep fighting we WILL win!

As soon as we start buying into this crap that this country is the fourth reich, or communist Russia, we lose. Plain and simple. The only thing we have is our resolve. We must continue to fight, continue to believe no matter how impossible it seems. No matter how badly the odds are stacked against us we must remember that if we give up there will be no one left to defend liberty. Did MLK give up in the face of such odds? Didn't Ghandi beat the greatest military power on earth without firing a single shot?

Ron Paul started with nothing. No money, no support, and being viewed as a radical maverick. But look how much we've accomplished in one short year. We're heading into super Tuesday with a head full of steam, money in the bank, while two former "front runners" have dropped out. If you ask me we've already accomplished the impossible, so why can't we keep it up?

Crickett
01-30-2008, 10:25 PM
I do. Just read the Communist Manifesto and you'll see how far we have come during this past century to realizing Marx's dream. We have arrived, comrade!

Did you hear in the debate tonight? One of the geeks was talking about how bad some other countries were? He said something like --they are so bad, the media is manipulating them, and the government is taking all their rights...
I said HUH? YOU are talking about US now!!!!!!!! OMG.. Did you hear it?

Crickett
01-30-2008, 10:26 PM
commies?

that's a bit off.
More like capitalist greedmongers.

RP's new book is entitled The Revolution Manifesto...can u believe that? lol

Tratzman
01-30-2008, 10:27 PM
The only thing that's kept us from completely becoming a combination Commuist/Fascist state is the Constitution.

We must keep fighting. I will not go quietly into the night, will you?

RP all the way to St. Paul and the White House.

jarofclay
01-30-2008, 10:30 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?


I agree with you comrade. The homeland is in trouble.

parke
01-30-2008, 10:30 PM
commies?

that's a bit off.
More like capitalist greedmongers.

ummm no.

Stripped of our rights.. Media control. Capitalist Communists???

OH WAIT!!!

Thats China!

TXcarlosTX
01-30-2008, 10:30 PM
IM AFRAID OF THIS USSR COMMIE!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=K5fXbEivWec


video speaks for itself!!!

MaidenFan
01-30-2008, 10:31 PM
Remember:
THEY want you to believe it's impossible.
THEY want you to believe they're in total control.
THEY want you to give up.
THEY want you to believe you're insignificant.

But:
WE know we'll win.
WE know that we have the power.
WE will never surrender.
WE are the gears, the belts, and the levers that run the machine.

WE ARE THE MACHINE AND WE CAN CHANGE OUR COURSE!

But it's gonna take hard work, sacrifice, sweat, tears, and grit. You think it's bad now, just wait how it gets when we start gaining more and more support. We're gonna face ridicule, and opposition at every turn. But we must never give up because we're fighting for what's RIGHT, even though it may be unpopular.

parke
01-30-2008, 10:32 PM
We must keep fighting. I will not go quietly into the night, will you?

No. I Promise.

CTAC
01-30-2008, 10:35 PM
I was born and grew up in USSR and I have to tell you that we have nothing to do with all that b/s that you have here. Not even close. That's all your own invention and you had it all the time, you just started to noticing it.

TXcarlosTX
01-30-2008, 10:37 PM
I was born and grew up in USSR and I have to tell you that we have nothing to do with all that b/s that you have here. Not even close. That's all your own invention and you had it all the time, you just started to noticing it.


yeah but what about IVAN DRAGO?

parke
01-30-2008, 10:40 PM
Remember:
THEY want you to believe it's impossible.
THEY want you to believe they're in total control.
THEY want you to give up.
THEY want you to believe you're insignificant.

But:
WE know we'll win.
WE know that we have the power.
WE will never surrender.
WE are the gears, the belts, and the levers that run the machine.

WE ARE THE MACHINE AND WE CAN CHANGE OUR COURSE!

But it's gonna take hard work, sacrifice, sweat, tears, and grit. You think it's bad now, just wait how it gets when we start gaining more and more support. We're gonna face ridicule, and opposition at every turn. But we must never give up because we're fighting for what's RIGHT, even though it may be unpopular.

Its going to take blood. The powers at be have taken our country. I dont care what way you look at it.

I got hip to Paul at the SC debate with Rudy. I knew Ron Paul was right and crapped myself... then I, like many others, studied up on Ron Paul. My logic was, Ron Paul is correct, that guy needs to be president.

Since then, Ive followed the campaign non stop. Ive witnessed censorship, laughter, foul play, slander, screwing with the sound at debates...

Im not f*cking crazy. I witnessed this. Being here since May, Ive got alot of time invested in this campaign. I drove 7 hours one way to meet Dr. Paul. I know Im a huge fan, but the treatment he has received has smacked all the b*tch I had left in me... completely out.

So realistically, do you think, for a second, the powers behind the American throne are going to give up the reigns of power without killing for it?

Smiley Gladhands
01-30-2008, 10:42 PM
Yeah, I almost think we should start an ad campaign with big red billboards saying 'We Lost the Cold War....The Commies Control Our Country'. Shock 'em into considering what they're voting for when they vote for socialized medicince and tax rebates for illegals. They call us isolationists, we call them commies. We're more correct.

torchbearer
01-30-2008, 10:49 PM
I was born and grew up in USSR and I have to tell you that we have nothing to do with all that b/s that you have here. Not even close. That's all your own invention and you had it all the time, you just started to noticing it.

What about Cornfedder's testimony before congress about the marxist-lennonist agenda to take the US from within by taking up seats of power in the 'anti-communist' movements?
I'm sure you weren't privy to those discussions back in the very early 1900s... but I have a great video for you to watch about it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

torchbearer
01-30-2008, 10:59 PM
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parke
01-30-2008, 11:02 PM
What about Cornfedder's testimony before congress about the marxist-lennonist agenda to take the US from within by taking up seats of power in the 'anti-communist' movements?
I'm sure you weren't privy to those discussions back in the very early 1900s... but I have a great video for you to watch about it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

I hope you are running for office... and thanks for that showing in LA.

torchbearer
01-30-2008, 11:12 PM
I hope you are running for office... and thanks for that showing in LA.

I intend on running if I get the necesary funds to compete. I'm looking to have an online fundraiser/mini-bomb sometime at the end of Feb.
Hopefully everyone who has supported Ron Paul can help me out too.
I won't need as much obviously, but from past experience, I have estimated that I will need around $300,000 to compete in my congressional district.

Did you see the video I previously listed? The G. Edward Griffon seminar? It will blow your mind!

torchbearer
01-30-2008, 11:22 PM
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parke
01-30-2008, 11:54 PM
I intend on running if I get the necesary funds to compete. I'm looking to have an online fundraiser/mini-bomb sometime at the end of Feb.
Hopefully everyone who has supported Ron Paul can help me out too.
I won't need as much obviously, but from past experience, I have estimated that I will need around $300,000 to compete in my congressional district.

Did you see the video I previously listed? The G. Edward Griffon seminar? It will blow your mind!

Will check out right now.

JoBurke
01-31-2008, 02:02 AM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?

you are correct. it is very sad....i defended this for years?

jrich4rpaul
01-31-2008, 02:04 AM
Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.


I was thinking the same thing until I realized I probably won't have kids on account of the next president bringing back the draft after another "attack", and therefore I go get blown up fighting for another country's "democracy".

parke
01-31-2008, 02:09 AM
I was thinking the same thing until I realized I probably won't have kids on account of the next president bringing back the draft after another "attack", and therefore I go get blown up fighting for another country's "democracy".

Its a hell of a grip they have this country in.

Stewart said it best right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ

Zydeco
01-31-2008, 02:11 AM
what's interesting to me is how people have been brainwashed over generations to see themselves as free when they are not. Government taking 30-50% of your income; prisons overcrowded; rule of men and not rule of law; rampant, unchecked illegal immigration; obviously manipulated media; bought, sold and often blackmailed legislators; population robbed of wealth through complex bubbles 99% of them don't understand; runaway, unpayable debt racked up by corrupt politicians; and behind it all, the New World Order, a collection of highly intelligent psychopaths.

Solution is a return to the Constitution.

fj45lvr
01-31-2008, 10:00 AM
Seeing as how Ive never followed Communism... maybe I should read up on whats to come.:(

Of course it will be complete state control and loss of private property (even if solely by not granting "permits" to do what you would with land if not outright state ownership).

Normally they would take over through violent revolt and murder the ruling class (including the leftist professors that had fomented the ideology to their horror). We have skipped over that stage unless a leader were to call for it in the future.

BillyDkid
01-31-2008, 10:08 AM
Look, people have to realize that we can not win by playing the game as laid out by the owners of this country. It can not be done. The game is rigged. Our task is to find a way around it. The game is designed so that movements like ours can not win. Our only hope is to out smart them. We absolute have to find a way to get the freedom message out to all the American for whom it is being censored. We have to show them they are being lied to and manipulated by the media. We can only win if we have the enough people behind us to scare the owners. Their strategy is simply to censor and marginalize and a discredit the message anyway they can. I don't think people have faced the fact that process IS in fact rigged and it is rigged specifically to prevent a Ron Paul from coming to power. We can not win by playing their game. We have to change the game.

micahnelson
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids

Azprint
01-31-2008, 10:14 AM
Communism? Nahhh, America is a fascist state, you are just more afraid to admit to fascism than communism :)

PAULinSC
01-31-2008, 10:15 AM
We need the Sons of Liberty back.

Paul Revered
01-31-2008, 10:17 AM
It's not looking good.

torchbearer
01-31-2008, 10:18 AM
Communism? Nahhh, America is a fascist state, you are just more afraid to admit to fascism than communism :)

We are infested with Collectivism. Socialism, Fascism, Communism are all forms of collectivism.
With Dems and Reps we are now forced to choose between two forms of collectivism. They are two different branches from the same tree. Dems= state socialism, Reps = Corporate Fascism. Both are authoritarian forms of rule.
Not sure what I'm talking about or want to know more... ?
check out the G. Edward Griffon seminar I posted earlier... i know its long, but its worth seeing!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

seeker1
01-31-2008, 10:18 AM
Yes, this is why Republicans are baffled and frustrated. Their top 2 candidates are socialist Neocons. They bought this Neocon fascist bullshit and now they want a refund.

I didn't see any evidence the Republicans wanted a refund, they all seem to be jumping on board the McRomney train.

You know, the one leading to hell in a handbasket.

torchbearer
01-31-2008, 10:20 AM
We need the Sons of Liberty back.

We are back... we are just now waking up and realizing what is going on and who we really are...
You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die for....
We are the sons of liberty.

The Minister
01-31-2008, 10:25 AM
No, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!!

YOU are fascist!

WE are communist!

Get it straight!

So just like 1943 when you invade us we will burn our homes and farms and retreat into the snow.

But in the end..... they all start to look pretty similar, so I forgive you.

szczebrzeszyn
01-31-2008, 10:34 AM
LMAO...

I dont know if anyone else remembers that commercial from the late 80's about 'cheap toilet paper'.. it was a knock on communism and people had to tell down a line what they were waiting in line for.

'cheap toilet paper'

Needed the laugh.. thanks.:D

Well, I'm the one, who remembers standing in line to get that paper. I was a kid and they were giving the toilet paper in exchange for old paper (not toilet hehe, newspapers etc). There was a huge truck loaded with toilet paper and my mom gave me some old newspapers and I ran along with other kids to get our rolls. I never think about it, but your post reminded me those times... It's like a strange dream, it's hard to believe even for me, that it was the reality we lived in.

I remember there was almost nothing in shops. When you went to buy some meat, there were only empty hooks hanging. I remember standing in line for coffee (well, it wasn't real coffee you drink today, but it was called so - same with chocolate-like products etc). The word came around that 'coffee arrived!' and lots of people ran to the shop. The queue stood on the street when I appeared there, to change my sister already tired standing in there... Strange times...

PepperdotNet
01-31-2008, 10:36 AM
How far we have come, comrades.

Here are the 10 measures the proletariat will use to bring about the full realization of the communist utopian dream, once they have the political power:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. (in our case, in the hands of a few powerful men)
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/keller5.html

The Minister
01-31-2008, 10:50 AM
I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/The.Big.Lebowski.1998.Screenshot.2.jpg

parke
01-31-2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah, I almost think we should start an ad campaign with big red billboards saying 'We Lost the Cold War....The Commies Control Our Country'. Shock 'em into considering what they're voting for when they vote for socialized medicince and tax rebates for illegals. They call us isolationists, we call them commies. We're more correct.

Get Shep Farley to do some designs..

"We Lost the Cold War. Where Are Our Rights?"

We should start a t shirt line. Combine Commie visuals in American colors.

parke
01-31-2008, 10:58 AM
Well, I'm the one, who remembers standing in line to get that paper. I was a kid and they were giving the toilet paper in exchange for old paper (not toilet hehe, newspapers etc). There was a huge truck loaded with toilet paper and my mom gave me some old newspapers and I ran along with other kids to get our rolls. I never think about it, but your post reminded me those times... It's like a strange dream, it's hard to believe even for me, that it was the reality we lived in.

I remember there was almost nothing in shops. When you went to buy some meat, there were only empty hooks hanging. I remember standing in line for coffee (well, it wasn't real coffee you drink today, but it was called so - same with chocolate-like products etc). The word came around that 'coffee arrived!' and lots of people ran to the shop. The queue stood on the street when I appeared there, to change my sister already tired standing in there... Strange times...

Wow. I cant imagine.

All I remember from the commercial was a line of people in drab clothes telling each person behind them 'cheap toilet paper'. At the end of the line was a KGB guy and the last guy accidentally tells the KGB guy 'cheap toilet paper'.

parke
01-31-2008, 11:04 AM
Look, people have to realize that we can not win by playing the game as laid out by the owners of this country. It can not be done. The game is rigged. Our task is to find a way around it. The game is designed so that movements like ours can not win. Our only hope is to out smart them. We absolute have to find a way to get the freedom message out to all the American for whom it is being censored. We have to show them they are being lied to and manipulated by the media. We can only win if we have the enough people behind us to scare the owners. Their strategy is simply to censor and marginalize and a discredit the message anyway they can. I don't think people have faced the fact that process IS in fact rigged and it is rigged specifically to prevent a Ron Paul from coming to power. We can not win by playing their game. We have to change the game.

Most people... including those pundits on TV, really think we will be OK. And really, most people just dont give a shit. Britney is in jail for shaving her kids head. Thats news.

Look up Thomas Jefferson on Youtube.. theres nothing. Look up Britney Spears on youtube........

sad.

Truth Warrior
01-31-2008, 11:11 AM
The Corporate States of Amerika!

Rahl
01-31-2008, 11:30 AM
check out the G. Edward Griffon seminar I posted earlier... i know its long, but its worth seeing!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

in some way it's the real masterplan behind the ron paul revolution, but it's a long term effort to overcome the ruling elite.

saw it some months ago and its a must see.

Elwar
01-31-2008, 11:41 AM
We have arrived, comrade!

Comrade is so last century...these days the commies use the term "my friend" *cough McCain*.

crazyfacedjenkins
01-31-2008, 11:43 AM
Quit this negative attitude people. We're not in the USSA, USSR, Nazi Germany, or anything like that. And we NEVER will be!

Why?

Because as long as we keep fighting we can not lose. But that's the key we must keep on fighting. We must fight the tough battle. At times what seems like an impossible battle. We're facing a system which has been carefully constructed over decades. We're not gonna win overnight, heck we might not win over the course of an entire election cycle. But I promise you, that as long as we keep fighting we WILL win!

As soon as we start buying into this crap that this country is the fourth reich, or communist Russia, we lose. Plain and simple. The only thing we have is our resolve. We must continue to fight, continue to believe no matter how impossible it seems. No matter how badly the odds are stacked against us we must remember that if we give up there will be no one left to defend liberty. Did MLK give up in the face of such odds? Didn't Ghandi beat the greatest military power on earth without firing a single shot?

Ron Paul started with nothing. No money, no support, and being viewed as a radical maverick. But look how much we've accomplished in one short year. We're heading into super Tuesday with a head full of steam, money in the bank, while two former "front runners" have dropped out. If you ask me we've already accomplished the impossible, so why can't we keep it up?

hahahahah. If you don't know this let me just tell you the contracts deciding our president were signed a long time ago. You really aren't keeping up with the voter fraud, the media black out, and the shit in LA have you?

CelestialRender
01-31-2008, 11:45 AM
commies?

that's a bit off.
More like capitalist greedmongers.

I've only ever met 5 Capitalists, outside of RP meetups. Fascists and Capitalists are not the same thing.

davidkachel
01-31-2008, 12:00 PM
Guys, get a grip!
We have not become Communists or Nazis or any other -ism but statism.

You have to understand that ALL forms of totalitarian government are simply different flavors of statism; in other words, all the SAME thing in a different suit of clothes.

If you are up against a vicious dictator like say, Idi Amin, it's an easier flavor of statism to deal with because there is a fixed and identifiable evil that is susceptible to hot lead. Unfortunately, that is not the case here.

Though there are no doubt a handful of evil "leaders" intent on destroying our freedom who definitely deserve to know what it is like to look down from a gallows, the vast majority of the villains involved are simply imbeciles who genuinely believe they are doing the right thing. Oh, they have their ulterior motives too; greed, power, etc., but they don't want to destroy a free nation, just run it and loot it.

The Federal Bureau of Imbeciles actually believes the Patriot Act is a good thing. Bush, McCain, Giuliani etc. actually believe the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedoms (telling these morons that the terrorists have won now that Bush has taken away our freedom is pointless).

Remember that our country was the FIRST country where the liberty idea took hold. The ink was not dry on the Constitution before the statists, many of whom signed the Constitution remember, started undermining it. Remember the sedition act? Even the highest-placed protectors of liberty usually do not understand liberty.

For the most part there is no conspiracy. There are simply a great many people who do not understand liberty, do not want liberty, do not understand the Constitution or simply want a nanny. Should the jerks who snuck the Federal Reserve past us have been dragged into the street and hung? Absolutely. There is no whitewashing that. It was plain and simple treason. But for the most part, we are in the fix we are in because there is never more than a small percentage of the population who understand liberty and the Constitution and those few of us there are have ignored the most important warning the founders gave us: to be ever vigilant.

Unless held in check by way of constant threat of reprisal by the people, ALL GOVERNMENTS (read that again: ALL GOVERNMENTS!) regardless of constitutional documents, deteriorate to a state of totalitarianism.

In order to keep freedom you must keep a constant and watchful eye NOT ONLY on the government, but on the people themselves who would eagerly vote their liberty away in the name of having the government "protect" them. That protection can take the form of welfare, war against a real or imagined enemy, control of the airwaves, the contents of laundry soap. It all leads down the same path.

My take on the whole thing is that mankind is almost but not quite ready for liberty. We have to keep fighting.

Our problem is that we have foolishly allowed ourselves to believe the only tool we need is the ballot box.

Anna Karenina
01-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Comrade is so last century...these days the commies use the term "my friend" *cough McCain*.

That is a very keen observation. You are so right!

airborne373
01-31-2008, 01:57 PM
yes, I Do!

Steve_New_Jersey
01-31-2008, 01:59 PM
I wish. I saw a couple of Russian News videos on youtube about RP that were more fair & balanced than almost all of the crap the MSM has been shovelling out.

That is only possible because its a US race not a Russian race. If that was a domestic issue it would be far from fair.

torchbearer
01-31-2008, 02:58 PM
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parke
01-31-2008, 03:04 PM
Our problem is that we have foolishly allowed ourselves to believe the only tool we need is the ballot box.

Touche'

Its going to take the ammo box IMO.

torchbearer
01-31-2008, 04:50 PM
Chipin for ammo boxes?

parke
01-31-2008, 08:32 PM
Chipin for ammo boxes?

and butter...

Ron Paul FTW
01-31-2008, 08:37 PM
Here's a good read regarding the USSA and how it works:

http://www.rys2sense.com/hub/get/post/articles.php?id=1

sands
01-31-2008, 08:42 PM
Folks....You hear alot of people in the media, even the president talking about democracy....However, the U.S. was formed as a constitutional Republic...If you read the writings popular communists like marx, lenin, stalin, gorbechev ect ect...They talk over and over about democracy..."Democracy" is the vehicle that allows communistic/socialistic policies to creep in...Eventually, once communsim/socialism is in it will eventually lead to a dictatorship...

The difference this time is it's in danger of happening on a global scale..

PaultheSaint
01-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?


I'm so glad I got to live in the tail end of what the US once was. Well if you consider being born in 76' and growing up in the 80's the tailend of that.

I just remember when police were friends, not military police, easy times(aside from financial), hardly and survalinace, faimly values and reunions, community values, independant business thriving, etc.

pcosmar
01-31-2008, 09:06 PM
I'm so glad I got to live in the tail end of what the US once was. Well if you consider being born in 76' and growing up in the 80's the tailend of that.

I just remember when police were friends, not military police, easy times(aside from financial), hardly and survalinace, faimly values and reunions, community values, independant business thriving, etc.

They might not have been great, but those were the good old days.

I am holding on to hope, but am dismayed at the level of stupidity I am witnessing.

except I was born in 57

TruckinMike
01-31-2008, 09:28 PM
Speaking of Communism and word association or Linking --- What have we done wrong?

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Lets's see here...

The Communist Manifesto by karl Marx -- The unaBomber Manifesto by Ted Kaczynski -- The Revolution - A Manifesto by Ron Paul

using the word manifesto is NOT a good idea.

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Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Russian: Влади́мир Ильи́ч Ле́нин, Влади́мир Ильи́ч Улья́нов) (April 22, 1870 – January 21, 1924), was a Russian revolutionary, a communist politician, the main leader of the October Revolution, the first head of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic and from 1922, the first de facto leader of the Soviet Union. He was the creator of Leninism, an extension of Marxist theory.


Hhhmmm... using a likeness of Lenin isn't helping things either.

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Guevara became an icon of socialist revolutionary movements and a cultural icon worldwide. An Alberto Korda photo of him has received wide distribution and modification, appearing on t-shirts, protest banners, and in many other formats. The Maryland Institute College of Art called this picture "the most famous photograph in the world and a symbol of the 20th century.

And murderer of thousands via execution squads.

Nope, a Che Guevara likeness isn't really going to pull in the conservative vote.

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Does anybody have any questions? If so, read FU Franks book and watch the video in my sig line.

TMike

parke
01-31-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm so glad I got to live in the tail end of what the US once was. Well if you consider being born in 76' and growing up in the 80's the tailend of that.

I just remember when police were friends, not military police, easy times(aside from financial), hardly and survalinace, faimly values and reunions, community values, independant business thriving, etc.

I was born in '74. The thing I remember most growing up was having a patriotic grandmother. She took me to DC, Philly and Plymouth Rock all in the same summer. She instilled into me that our rights were worth fighting for. She was a patriot inside and out. My family served this country for as far back as I know. Every war in the 20th century had a number of my family members fighting in them.

And here we are.. Election 2008. No rights. Endless war. Crashing dollar.

Its a disgrace to send our children around the world to die and strip them of their God given rights at home.

Triton
01-31-2008, 09:35 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?Sheee-it you must be purdy old. We haven't been free since prior to the Civil War.

ronpaulfan
01-31-2008, 09:35 PM
Hey, some people are just more equal than others

louisiana4liberty
01-31-2008, 09:44 PM
Printing the money causes declines in our dollar versus other countries. This encourages foreign investment and a huge influx of foreign ownership of US assets. Ultimately the nation will be over run by this foreign investment.

Do I have to tell you what happens next? Foreign lobbyist in Washington raping the masses for even more Corporate subsidies and spending. AKA, foreign firms sending profits back overseas.

NerveShocker
01-31-2008, 09:45 PM
We are infested with Collectivism. Socialism, Fascism, Communism are all forms of collectivism.
With Dems and Reps we are now forced to choose between two forms of collectivism. They are two different branches from the same tree. Dems= state socialism, Reps = Corporate Fascism. Both are authoritarian forms of rule.
Not sure what I'm talking about or want to know more... ?
check out the G. Edward Griffon seminar I posted earlier... i know its long, but its worth seeing!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

Totally agree. Fascism and communism are essentially the same thing. That video is great and explains is all very well, I've watched it several times before.

TruckinMike
01-31-2008, 09:54 PM
Sheee-it you must be purdy old. We haven't been free since prior to the Civil War.

My grandfather used to tell me of the days when he never even knew what the IRS was. He had no thoughts of the government garnishing his wages, or concerns about filing his taxes.

Thats when people had more freedom. They felt free. They were free. There was not direct government intrusion into their lives. Heck you could even go to your local hardware store and buy a muffler(silencer) for you favorite firearm -- yes, you could even buy a fully automatic thompson sub machine gun if you wished, and without the governments approval.
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/217/animation26bo.jpg

Those were the days. I want them BACK! and a Thompson to.:D

TMike

InLoveWithRon
01-31-2008, 10:01 PM
go to youtube and search for naomi wolf.. Alot of her speeches are on there.. She wrote a fascinating book called "End of America".. And she outlines the 10 steps to the communist / fascist regime..

Interestingly enough, we have already done the first 5 steps, and are quickly onto step six.. This is the slow process and americans are totally oblivious to whats REALLY going on around them.. The truth is, we are already past the halfway point to full blast fascism.

kyleAF
01-31-2008, 10:09 PM
My grandfather used to tell me of the days when he never even knew what the IRS was. He had no thoughts of the government garnishing his wages, or concerns about filing his taxes.

Thats when people had more freedom. They felt free. They were free. There was not direct government intrusion into their lives. Heck you could even go to your local hardware store and buy a muffler(silencer) for you favorite firearm -- yes, you could even buy a fully automatic thompson sub machine gun if you wished, and without the governments approval.
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/217/animation26bo.jpg

Those were the days. I want them BACK! and a Thompson to.:D

TMike

Thompsons are sweet!! My friend has one... also, an Uzi, Sten, MP5, BAR, MG-42, Mosin Nagant, pistols everywhere, and about 100 other things I can't remember.

Those were some good times at the range...

weatherbill
01-31-2008, 10:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDZLK8xXBRw

CONFIREMD BY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER! ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!!

idrake
01-31-2008, 10:23 PM
Let just be upfront. Commies run our media. Commies run our national bank. Commies run our military.

Our country has turned into a softer form of China. Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free. And Ill be able to explain to them in detail why our country failed.

Does anybody out there agree with me?

Well, first, it's more like corporatism, a form of fascism. However it's not really that bad. The problem is the people. We the people are, to be frank, stupid, lazy, and intolerant.

Stupid, because most people will believe what ever comes out of their boob tube and they don't think critically about what they hear. Stupid, because they believe the promises made by politicians who have a contradicting record of actions and results.

Lazy, because people just won't take the time to look into policy and vote. I was talking to the CIO of one of my former clients last night. He's not voting in the primary because he's too busy.

Intolerant, because most people are offended by politics and the open discussion of ideas. Intolerant, because people have adopted the class, age, and race warfare encouraged by the policy makers in Washington.

While I was never intolerant, I was surely stupid and lazy. I'm just lucky I was cured.

qh4dotcom
01-31-2008, 11:13 PM
I have never believed that there was true capitalism here....Why? It's so easy for thieves like the government and lawyers to legally snatch your private property.

parke
02-05-2008, 10:12 AM
I have never believed that there was true capitalism here....Why? It's so easy for thieves like the government and lawyers to legally snatch your private property.

I keep wondering at what point Americans are going to stand up and stop government abuse. Sadly, I think Americans will just shrug their collective shoulders and not care enough to fight back... until its to late.

pcosmar
02-05-2008, 10:24 AM
I keep wondering at what point Americans are going to stand up and stop government abuse. Sadly, I think Americans will just shrug their collective shoulders and not care enough to fight back... until its to late.


"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

Soap Box-check
Ballot Box-check
Jury Box-working on it
Ammo Box-on hold, for now

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TheyLive!
02-05-2008, 10:34 AM
FYI, the big capitalists run the communists:

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/


do your homework

nullvalu
02-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Someday, Ill tell my kids about when America was free.

Unless you're like 120 years old and you remember your childhood pretty well, then you do not know freedom. None of us do. We've been raised with a sense of patriotism and have been told we're free. But how many of us were fingerprinted by the government in first grade? How many of us have been given social security cards and numbers by the government? How many of us need to a license from the government to get married, to drive a vehicle, to do damn near anything else? How many of us now have to sign the USA Patriot Act notice when we go in for a loan? The list could go on for days..

The truth of the matter is, we are not free and never have been.

Michigan11
02-05-2008, 11:27 AM
We are there. The diversion away from The Constitution, and the diminished state of the sovereign individual will lead this country to the way of Rome.

True! I agree we are communist now. It may take some a little longer to figure this out and many will not be able to see it, since some don't want to hear or see the truth, or in another words, hear no evil see no evil.

I own a business, and will testify that the damn laws, regulations, times spent on accounting, book work, insurances, licenses, blah blah blah, that is communism or at the very least stong socialism people....

With each passing year, watch wages and profits continue to decline.

We are screwed! How would Henry Ford, do in today's world? Exactly, he would have been thrown in jail.hahahah

american empire
02-05-2008, 11:43 AM
great you guys have still to come out of the mccarthy era...blame it on the commis for your own errors....you and I were asleep...how many voted for bush....and now we are crying the commis are coming......

have you no sense of what FTFW writes in his post....capitalist greed mongerers.....I guess he is the only one awake after taking the red pill.....commis are the same as these greedy bufoons....its like saying the democrats are responsible for our problems or for that matter the neocons....no no one is responsible but we the people who have been asleep and have allowed idiots to rule us.....

so before someone else comes and says "down with the commis" you see they are not the problem but it is easy to say that b/c that is how you have lived all your life....blaming others for your apathy....

Sandy
02-05-2008, 12:09 PM
Communism? Nahhh, America is a fascist state, you are just more afraid to admit to fascism than communism :)

Not so, we have varying degrees and growing of the 10 main planks of the Commie Manifesto, fascism and communism are almost identical.

What we have is a Corporatist-Communist NWO sociopath alliance that involves many people, including the old USSR. There was a US/USSR educational and info exchange in the 80's, and also a Carnegie-Soviet exchange. In addition, various intstitutions (such as Tavistock and Aspen Insitutes, Rockefellar and Ford Foundations) involved with brainwashing people into socialist beliefs through differrent means including entertainment, our public schools are commie controlled. The fascist corporatism involved with globalism is of course included, but the rest will lean and continue commie unless America wakes up! Commie countries have a police state, and bye bye private property! Hello 'sustainable communities'. NOT! We're not buying your 'save the planet' propaganda and population control agenda.

We can change this yes, but must be aware of what they are doing and educate others. Know thy enemy. 'Unity in Diversity' and 'Sustainability' are UN buzz words/phrases, watch out for these commie psych warfare terms. Also, 'we must not be separatists', bashing of things such as ethnicities/religions/patriotism/nationalism, etc. They want a one world gov't and religion, and some will play good cop pretending to be against the wars and the Bush administration for example when it's all just a play.

Malakai0
02-05-2008, 12:22 PM
commies?

that's a bit off.
More like capitalist greedmongers.

What we have now can hardly be called capitalism. Secret government groups and international central banks with limitless money don't manipulate markets at will in a capitalist society.

Lot of people have made capitalism out to be evil, but it's not.

Capitalism is you earning your own money and deciding where to spend it yourself.
Socialism is the government earning the money from your labor and deciding what you need then spending it for you.

We have been in between the 2 for awhile, but year after year we slip closer to socialism. Our government just cheats and instead of taxing you to death directly they tax you half to death directly and the other half is taken by invisible taxes built into the price of goods, like corp taxes and inflation.

torchbearer
02-05-2008, 01:26 PM
What we have now can hardly be called capitalism. Secret government groups and international central banks with limitless money don't manipulate markets at will in a capitalist society.

Lot of people have made capitalism out to be evil, but it's not.

Capitalism is you earning your own money and deciding where to spend it yourself.
Socialism is the government earning the money from your labor and deciding what you need then spending it for you.

We have been in between the 2 for awhile, but year after year we slip closer to socialism. Our government just cheats and instead of taxing you to death directly they tax you half to death directly and the other half is taken by invisible taxes built into the price of goods, like corp taxes and inflation.

+9999999999999

Patriot123
02-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Yeah... If you'll even be allowed to tell them.

We're not going communist, and we're certainly not controlled by commies. We're being overrun by some socialist group. That's it. Bankers. Corporations. Whatever you want to call them. They're socialists. They're a socialist group. That's all we're up against.

parke
04-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Revolution to restore our liberty. Nothing more.