Watching debate now

[V-rod]

10 minutes into debate, no Paul yet, and Romney is succeeding to overthrow Giuliani as the head douchebag of the pack

[Meistro1]

I'm listening to the commentary on ronpaulradio, no fireworks yet.

[UCFGavin]

is it on regular ABC? I can't find shit :(

[yongrel]

Ron's on now! Talking about war! And getting a TON of applause.

[BuddyRey]

Did I just hear John McCain correctly?! Did he say we'd be in this "Global War on Terror" until the END OF THE CENTURY?!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[yongrel]

Did I just hear John McCain correctly?! Did he say we'd be in this "Global War on Terror" until the END OF THE CENTURY?!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Yes. Sickening.

[Meistro1]

Ron Paul starts out swinging heavily, taking a shot at the war on Iraq, Vietnam and Korea.

[UCFGavin]

I can't believe I don't fucking have the debate....

[james1844]

where is the link to watch the debate?

[yongrel]

Jeez, Huckabee is a good speaker. Too bad I can't agree with what he says.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Gavin, it's not on here for another hour. Maybe same where you are.

[mtbaird5687]

Is anyone going to record this and put it on Youtube?

or does anyone have a link to it live?

I'm in London right now and don't have access to ABC (of course)

[V-rod]

Ow, RP could of worded his answer a little better
I hate this style of debates Dr. Paul could run circles around these guys in a marathon debate. Hard for him to get the edge in with these damn sound bytes

[yongrel]

McCain's not helping himself yet. He's just rehashing the Bush talking points.

[Dustancostine]

all of the clapping is getting old.

[UCFGavin]

Gavin, it's not on here for another hour. Maybe same where you are.

I'm eastern time zone. shouldn't it be live here? i got up early with a bad hangover to watch it :(

[Dustancostine]

Did McCain just say that a sign of Iraqi unity was the soccer match.

[sunny]

Guys And Gals!!!

Check Your Local Listings - It's Different In Each Time Zone And When "this Week" Broacasts In Your Area!!!

[yongrel]

"Not one of the candidates has said Islamic Extremism, which is taking political correctness to an extreme." -Ghuoliani.

I despise him.

[Meistro1]

Guiliani lieing like always... he claims that in the 4 democratic debates they've never talked about terrorism... flat out lie.

[V-rod]

God.. the more I hear Guiliani speak...

[Dustancostine]

Romney just said a surge of sacrifice and we need a surge support. lol

[V-rod]

Romney wouldn't double Guantanamo, he would quadruple it!

[yongrel]

Is it just me, or did Ron Paul get a lot less time to talk about the war than the other candidates?

[yongrel]

Ron Paul Got The Last Word On The War!!!!!

EDIT: McCain is being a bugger, so RP doesn't get the last word. But RP still owned them all.

[V-rod]

Paul gave a huge UPPERCUT to Neocons!

[Dustancostine]

Go Ron Go

[ChristopherJ]

It's not on here yet. Where is Ron on the stage?

[walt]

can anyone with video of Ron tell me if he looked angry in that answer?

[tsopranos]

http://www.justin.tv/ronpaul

[BuddyRey]

Ron Paul just OWNED everybody!!!!

[freelance]

Default
Romney wouldn't double Guantanamo, he would quadruple it!

V-Rod, did he actually SAY that?

[Patrick Henry]

The good Dr. is kicking butt!!

[yongrel]

Ron Paul SHUT DOWN Romney! Did anyone see Romney's face when Ron Paul gave him the hand without even looking? AHAHHAHAHAHA!!!

[Lois]

Wow -- did you see Romney saying "Have you forgot about 9/11" when Ron Paul was saying "Al Queda had nothing to do with Iraq". Doesn't everybody know --

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 !

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Damn. I missed it. Get to watch the whole thing in 1/2 hour.

[V-rod]

Tancredo seems twitchy as hell tonight.

[Dustancostine]

They lined them up by that ABC Iowa Poll so he is next to last on the right.

[V-rod]

I hope they ask Paul about some Pro Life issues.

[yongrel]

Romney is rambling about health care. Oi vey.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Tell us what Ron Paul says. Some of us are delayed an hour.

[Dustancostine]

Sounds like Romney wants socialized healthcare.

[yongrel]

Romney Just Talked About The Free Market!!!! Aaaahhhh!!! And So Did Giuliani!!!!!!!!!

Please Please Please Let Ron Paul Own Them All!!!!

[shrugged0106]

Tell us what Ron Paul says. Some of us are delayed an hour.


or two!! lol. I hate waiting, ut I know I'll be forced to watch it at 11.

[V-rod]

Way to go GHoulani, more huge tax breaks, but keep increasing goverment spending. Way to go.

[Patrick Henry]

Sounds like Romney wants socialized healthcare.

He does. I live in the cesspool of Boston MA.

[freelance]

Scribbler, only 27 minutes to go!

[stevedasbach]

Are they going to let the only physician on the stage address the issue of healthcare?

[Dustancostine]

He has gotten two chances to speak about the war. 1st time said his basic sound bite about walking out. 2nd time said his basic sound bite about how we do more in peace than in war, example veitnam Brought out fact that he served his country during vietnam.

A little more anger this time. Like what I see so far.

[Lois]

Well, I can't get anything on JustinTV at all.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Giuliani doesn't get it -- we shouldn't have to beg for crumbs in tax dollars back. It's our damn money and we can choose whether to buy insurance or even just pay as we go. We don't need Giuliani for this!

[V-rod]

Ron Paul is getting the least time to speak

[Dustancostine]

Didn't let Paul speak on health care. After saying they were going to let everyone. Also didn't let others though as well.

[constituent]

it only helps the cause when the ignore him


counterintuitive... i know.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Nope, what does a medical doctor know about health care?

[Patrick Henry]

Giuliani: "crush" Al Quaida..... "crush" the Taliban

[Dustancostine]

I would say he is getting about as much as Tancredo and Hunter. They are giving a lot to Thompson and Huckabee. Guliani and Romney get to speak about twice about every issue.

[V-rod]

Oh god, if Paul doesn't get the nomination, the Republican Party has no chance in hell to win the Presidency.
He also needs to interrupt these jokers just like they keep interrupting him!

[Meistro1]

Romney just said Musharaff is an example of democracy and freedom... does he want that same "freedom" in America? The freedom of a military theocracy brutally silencing dissent?

[yongrel]

Stephanapoulous just owned Giuliani. That was nice. +1 Rep point. Which puts George at -299.

[Dustancostine]

Romney just called it a war on jihad.

[yongrel]

Romney just said, "To win the war on Jihad..."

Is there anything between his ears?

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Oh god, if Paul doesn't get the nomination, the Republican Party has no chance in hell to win the Presidency.

And that's not a bad thing -- coming from a life-long Republican. Ron Paul is the only one who can save this country.

[Dustancostine]

Steph just gave anyone a chance to jump in and he didn't. He needs to be a little less polite.

[Meistro1]

wow this debate is a joke... where are the questions for ron paul... they should just call it "Abc lets guiliani and romney give their opinions"

[goldstandard]

Live blogging and video: http://www.iowavoice.com/2007/05/15/the-republican-debate-live-edition/

[Dustancostine]

Huckabee just took a Paul stance, said we don't need to be exporting democracy, but protect America

[yongrel]

They're really pushing Huckabee this time.

[V-rod]

I don't believe in many conspiracies, but it seems Stephanalpolis wants to just give Paul the War questions that can easily rile up the warhawks, and avoid questions like Health Care.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Is RP getting almost NO time? We're going to start a "boycot

Oops -- here he is

[Meistro1]

Crowd going wild as Ron Paul denounces neocons.

[Dustancostine]

Paul: Our responsibility is to spread a democracy HERE. Woodrow Wilson. Don't spread democracy with gun. Don't threatened Iran and Pakistan. NeoCons are forgot Afghanistan.

[Meistro1]

Guiliani : Democracy isn't about voting, it's about military force controlling things.

[LizF]

I'm finding Romney's smirking and condescension annoying.

[yongrel]

"Democracy is not immediately going to elections... Democracy requires the rule of law....

Democracy is only a theory if you're living in an unstable society."

-Trudy

[Patrick Henry]

Paul needs to bring up letters of Marque and repraisal

[Dustancostine]

Guliani, you can't be free, until there is rule of law. Sounds very police statish.

[yongrel]

"Elections do not mean democracy." - McCain.

[Dustancostine]

McCain. We should only attack Pakistan after thinking it through

[freelance]

Guiliani : Democracy isn't about voting, it's about military force controlling things.

More Guiliani authoritarian drivel.

[yongrel]

AAAHHHH!!!! McCain just said that we were "the shining city on the hill."

[Dustancostine]

Tancredo keeps demanding time, and each time he gets it. Paul needs to do the same thing.

[rg123]

They are all trying to take Rons speaking points

[V-rod]

haha, Dr. Paul should interrupt Giulani with.. "that is an extraordinary statement. I ask the former Mayor to withdraw his statement about his definition of Democracy, and please tell us he did not mean what he said"

[yongrel]

They're all copying Ron Paul's stances on foreign policy.

[Meistro1]

damnit ron paul radio keeps going down... too many people listening i guess ^_^

[Lois]

That "Live Debate" link was to the May debate --

Where is the Live Debate Online???

[Dustancostine]

BTW: Even though Paul isn't getting the time, other than that I have been happy with Stephanie's job, he nailing them down. Especially Guliani, and Romney.

[V-rod]

C'mon Paul, STEP Up to the plate dammit. Romney is trying to make you look bad.

[freelance]

Should be some interesting reading on Guliani and Romney talking points soon!

[rg123]

Ron needs to learn how to interupt

[Dustancostine]

Romney in his speach just gave examples of Kennedy and Roosevelt. He should just run as a Dem.

[LizF]

Romney's wife looks a bit nervous for him whenever they pan to her, IMO.

[Dustancostine]

Most certainly. He needs to step up and grab his time.

[LastoftheMohicans]

It shows what chameleons these guys are. They know that Iowans are against the war, so they change their stances to sound more like Paul.

[yongrel]

Tommy Thompson is talking sense about Tancredo's plan to bomb Mecca.

[Dustancostine]

Hunter has interupted got time. Tancredo has interupted twice, got time. Brownback just interupted and got time.

C'mon Ron Get your time.

[Meistro1]

Yeah, although he mis-estimated the number of muslims in the world by 500 million.

[V-rod]

I hope the people out there are appreciating Dr. Paul's manners and politeness.

[llamabread]

"We are a nation at war"

Except we never declared war, so we are more like a nation carrying out an idiot's executive orders.

[rg123]

He has talked 2 times in one hour Ron needs to get aggressive and show he wants to be the president there is too much at stake

[Dustancostine]

Talking about the bridge.

Hucabee gets to go first. Need less spending to deal with our own infrastructure. Takes Paul's stance.

Huckabee is a good speaker. He may move to my number 2.

[yongrel]

AAAHH!!! Huckabee is stealing Ron Paul's points on the bridge issue! It was like hearing RP's speech from Penn. again! Grr. This is frustrating.

[Brent]

I am chewing my fingernails off because I can't watch the debate, but going by what I've read isn't it funny that the elitists try to rip off Dr. Pauls points like a football player copying a smart students homework. If Rudy McRomney dare to do that, and are questioned in more detail about, e.g., the Constitution, the lack of substance should quickly be revealed behind the phonyness. Is the Rep debate as funny as the Dem debate? Obama cracks me up to know end

[Dustancostine]

No one is noticing his politeness because they are listening to other speak.

You don't notice the person that does nothing.

[Meistro1]

Rudy guiliani : cutting taxes raises federal revenue... is he fucking stupid? cutting taxes equals losing revenue...

[V-rod]

LOL, for every 5 statements Romney and Giulani makes, our Good Doctor gets ONE!

[Dustancostine]

Romney and Guiliani said we need tax cuts to grow economy for money for bridges.

[SeanEdwards]

It doesn't sound like this is going very well. :(

[Dustancostine]

McCain stalking about pork. Bridge to no where. Says he veto all pork.

Go to commercial.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

They're spending it building bridges in Iraq that we just bombed That's why we can't take care of our own bridges!

[Meistro1]

Is it over?

[LizF]

Time for another poll? Go to ABC

[yongrel]

vote for who you think is winning the debate. ABCnews.com/politics

[Dustancostine]

It doesn't sound like this is going very well. :(

It goes great when he gets a chance to speak. But if he doesn't start stepping up he is not going to get much of a chance.

[SeanEdwards]

I may turn into a stepsonallofus stalker if he doesn't give our guy some more opportunity to participate.

[rg123]

Your right scribbler but we won't hear Ron say it because he is to busy being polite
while all the other just keep on talking. He needs to say I would like to answer some question and call them out

[freelance]

Is he getting anything in in the final moments?

[glts]

What is the address to vote?

[RPatTheBeach]

vote for who you think is winning the debate. ABCnews.com/politics

I'm there and cannot find the poll. Anyone able to find it?

[specialkornflake]

Ron Paul has a large photo on the abc news frontpage rotation on the left.

[yongrel]

what's the link for the poll? I can't find it!

[specialkornflake]

The link to vote is under this week debate scroll list.

[4Horsemen]

I'm glad they should Mitt Romney's wife 4 times because I forget what she looks like.

[specialkornflake]

http://abcnews.go.com/politics (scroll down the menu and click "Vote: Who is winning the debate?")

[scrosnoe]

887 out of 1123 current vote?

[LizF]

Actually, when I clicked on the "Who is winning" the pop up window showed the same poll as before (phrased "Who do you think will win the debate").

[Ron Paul Fan]

LOL! Ron Paul is winning the poll with 948 votes. 2nd place is Romney with 66!

[Ann Kobialka]

Why did Dr. Paul even bother showing up? This is getting me angry. You can't just stand there. And we can't vote him winning this poll if he answers 2 questions. GGGGRRRRR WTF

[LizF]

They're back

[Bro.Butch]

Tancredo seems twitchy as hell tonight.

Tancredo was born twitchy !!! And it's morning LOL!!!!!!!!

[V-rod]

Giulani probably didn't know that about the Vice Presidency because he doesn't read the Constitution. Also Waiting on for them to mess with the online poll, any minute now

[Dustancostine]

Weird I'm still on commercial.

[Dustancostine]

AHHH No I'm pissed. 10hrs of commercial.

[LizF]

Tommy Thompson not criticizing Cheney.

[rg123]

Some paid advertisment show is on now what happened

[Dustancostine]

I Can't believe it. ABC Bismark just switched to the real estate channel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:(

Debate over for me.

[yongrel]

1,172 of 1,657 votes on the ABC poll

[V-rod]

Romney and Giulani are talking about how they want expanded powers of Vice Presidency,


Oh great, Paul gets a softball question, and HE GETS CUT OFF real fast

[LizF]

Romney: Bush and Cheney have kept us safe these past 6 yrs. Applause. :rolleyes:

[LizF]

RP: Cheney represents the neocon position...GSteph then cuts him off before he can truly finish his answer :mad:

[Lois]

My friend in NY has ABC channel and there's no Debate on there at all. This stinks --

[inibo]

1,172 of 1,657 votes on the ABC poll

Link please.

[Dustancostine]

What was the question?

[LizF]

Fair Tax questions....replace most taxes w/a 23% sales tax :eek:

[david.griffus]

I was going to watch it, but if Dr. Paul literally only answered two questions, why even bother? Doesnt he understand that people WANT to hear what he has to say just as much or more than the other candidates because they don't know him. Come on, good doctor. Step up.

[V-rod]

If they skip Ron Paul on this Fairtax question, I'm literally going to go apeshit

[Lois]

They only gave Ron Paul 36 seconds for the last answer.

[isufferfromronpaulfever]

What was the question?

you didn't miss much. RP had a whopping 15-20 seconds to say what he had to. It regarded the duty/power of the Vice President.

[yongrel]

I will break my TV if they skip Ron Paul on the FairTax question.

[richard1984]

Link please.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3437858&page=1

scroll down the page

[Ron Paul Fan]

Why do they always go to Huckabee first and then the front runners, then Brownback, Tancredo, Thompson, and if they have time they get to Paul and Hunter. They better not skip him on the tax question!

[Dustancostine]

This debate is pointless. If it is not on anywhere for the full duration. Then who cares.

[richard1984]

It just started here, and good lord this is annoying so far.

[LizF]

McCain: We should eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax

[yongrel]

They better talk to Ron Paul!

[Lois]

http://abcnews.go.com/politics

Click on "Vote - Who is Winning the Debate"

[Meistro1]

hahaha guiliani just got slapped after blurting out "I already read it" like a school child

[SeanEdwards]

I had to delete this one. Let my anger at ABC get the better of me.

[richard1984]

Well...until they finally ask Dr. Paul about the war.

I love Ron Paul!

[Meistro1]

ron paul has 10x as many votes

[LizF]

Tancredo: for Fair Tax; Income Tax--way of govt manipulating behavior

applause

then GSteph goes to Brownback --> to be the last one to answer this question

[shrugged0106]

http://abcnews.go.com/politics

Click on "Vote - Who is Winning the Debate"



It isnt letting me vote. It's still on who do we think will win from yesterday i thin k. Could it be due to the fact that the debate wasnt televised here yet?

[Brent]

The only poll I see is the "who do you think will win the debate" which I voted last night. Is there another?

[yongrel]

I can't believe this. They didn't let Ron Paul talk about the FairTax!

[V-rod]

THEY SKIPPED PAUL ON TAXES!!

This was a waste of time..

and now Paul gets a 3 second response on mistakes..

[Meistro1]

of course they didn't ask ron paul about taxes... god this debate is TERRIBLE, no time for dr. paul at all... less time than the CBC, NBC or even FOX NEWS debates

[Meistro1]

ron paul should have used that time to put in his thoughts about taxes... he only spoke for a few seconds when he should have taken the full 30 seconds

[Dustancostine]

Can someone please blog this for those of us who are getting screwed out of it.

Please.

[rich34]

If we need to start spamming emails to abc just let me know exactly where to send them because I'm all for it. The debate don't come on here until 11:30, but from what I've heard so far I'm not sure if I even want to watch it.

[shrugged0106]

we need to point this out to everybody we know and digg the hell out of the facts.

It may actually be beneficial to inspire passion in folks when they realize the unfair treatment.

[LizF]

What was the defining mistake of your life?

Hunter: almost ran as a Dem? (I think that's what he said)

RP: I don't speak forcefully enough for the cause of liberty

Huckabee: not taking care of my health earlier

Romney: pro-choice positon earlier in career

Giuliani: jokes about past

[glts]

Giuliani finally answers a question honestly.

[rg123]

pointless debate I cant watch it now a realestate showis on but Ron does not answer any questions. Their wont be a youtube debate so they will rigg polls like gallup and say only candidates with 5 % or more can participate in the debates this is the design people and Fred Thompson will save the day when their is no one left to debate. This entire election process and our government is nothing but BULLSHIT!!! Its time to start not being nice to the MSM and take our damn country back

[V-rod]

haha, Tancredo trying to make sound bytes for Evangelicals

[LizF]

TThompson: women in his family have/had cancer --> not being supportive enough

Tancredo: 30 yrs before he realized Jesus was his savior

[SeanEdwards]

Anyone else feel like burning an effigy of George 'the kingmaker' in front of ABC HQ?

Perhaps we should spam a boycot of ABC sponsor companies to send them some blowback.

[Lois]

Oh, God -- Tancredo said "Jesus Christ is my personal Savior" --

Then why does he want to kill all the innocent people in other countries???

[inibo]

This is depressing.

[glts]

Wow Thompsons going to cure cancer.

[Dustancostine]

RP should have not let him skip him on the tax question. What in the hell is doing up there.

Stand up man!!!!!

[richard1984]

I really hate all of the other candidates....

[LizF]

Oh, God -- Tancredo said "Jesus Christ is my personal Savior" --

Then why does he want to kill all the innocent people in other countries???

'cause they worship Allah?

Oh and they don't vote here...lol

[V-rod]

Thompson will end breast cancer by 2015. Giulani will bring hoverboards by 2025

[shrugged0106]

Anyone else feel like burning an effigy of George 'the kingmaker' in front of ABC HQ?

Perhaps we should spam a boycot of ABC sponsor companies to send them some blowback.



effigy= NO, that would certainly not attract more GOP'er (that we need)

Contact sponsors= Yes!!! definitely do it with passionate courtesy. Get more flies with honey, but be firm.

[Patrick Henry]

Please say "reinstate the constitution and restore the republic"

[LizF]

WTF...Giuliani says he restored hope for NYC...says he'll do the same for the country.

[OURPLAN]

Sweet jesus this is frustrating.. Let the doctor SPEAK! Let the doctor SPEAK!

[freelance]

Thompson: We're fighting a holy war.

OMG!

[Lois]

I thought you wrote ''

..."Giuliani will bring Over Broads"

[Dustancostine]

Whats going on now. Please update those that have been left in the cold.

[LizF]

Sheesh....Romney's so plastic and phony

[MsDoodahs]

One question to those fortunate enough to be watching: has RP made any gaffs at all?

Thanks!

[V-rod]

Would I get in trouble with the Secret Service or something if I said that I would like to rearrange Romney's arrogant face with my fist?

[Patrick Henry]

One question to those fortunate enough to be watching: has RP made any gaffs at all?

Thanks!

Nope

[yongrel]

One question to those fortunate enough to be watching: has RP made any gaffs at all?

Thanks!

He hasn't has a chance to make a gaff.

[LizF]

RP: I would restore openess to govt; secrecy not good; transparent govt; I think we could improve on that

[AdamT]

The sheeple applause for Gouliani is depressing.....

[inibo]

Whats going on now. Please update those that have been left in the cold.

What's going on is they are ignoring Dr. Paul.

[V-rod]

Paul just tried to redeem himself in the debate by giving his final statement about wanting to make Goverment more transparent to the Congress and the people.

Well the debate is over now. This was kind of depressing for me. Dr. Paul needs to seriously improve on his debating skills.

[LizF]

Debate over.

[yongrel]

That was the worst debate I have ever seen!

[Meistro1]

"I want to hear what you guys think"

This debate is a joke, please interview ron paul.

[Dustancostine]

RP needs to learn to grab time like the rest of them.

Well I guess it didn't do any harm.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Terrible debate. Way too rushed. Hopefully a couple of these candidates do bad at the straw poll so they drop out and we're down to 6-7 people.

[inibo]

Thanks DJ. Great job. Too bad Dr. Paul only got about a total of 2 minutes if that.

[quickmike]

Someone who is in contact with the campaign needs to get hold of Kent Snyder and let him know he needs to have a talk with Ron Paul about speaking up when he is skipped over on questions and not given fair time. Ronald Reagan practically won the election when he said, after having his mic cut off "Sir, I paid for this microphone and I will be heard"
A reporter said right after that "I think we just found our next president"

Ron definitely needs to be more vocal about being screwed like this.

[richard1984]

At least the crowd likes Dr. Paul.

[Dustancostine]

They need to make these debates about 5 hrs long.

[AdamT]

Debate's over. Now ABC kicks into full propaganda mode to prop up the "anointed ones" and marginalize RP. So predictable.

[freelance]

Someone who is in contact with the campaign needs to get hold of Kent Snyder and let him know he needs to have a talk with Ron Paul about speaking up when he is skipped over on questions and not given fair time. Ronald Reagan practically won the election when he said, after having his mic cut off "Sir, I paid for this microphone and I will be heard"
A reporter said right after that "I think we just found our next president"

Ron definitely needs to be more vocal about being screwed like this.

Yes, PLEASE. Bradley, are you monitoring this thread?

[Dustancostine]

ABC.com is giving RP some love though. His war position video is on the front page.

[richard1984]

ABC.com is giving RP some love though. His war position video is on the front page.

That's good to hear.

Snuffalufagus sure didn't give him adequate time.

[V-rod]

Let's wait to see Ron Paul's 80%+ poll fall to 5% and 1000 votes dissapear

[LizF]

ABC.com is giving RP some love though. His war position video is on the front page.


They don't love him...just our traffic

[Johnnybags]

no need to let the dr explain the inflation tax on national TV.

[Ron Paul Fan]

The loudest applause was for Ron Paul's anti-war statement, though. (Right?)

When he said, "Just come home" I thought it was the biggest applause of the night. Hopefully that issue alone will help him at the straw poll since that's all he really got to address. I think he got to answer twice on the Iraq war, once on Cheney, and once on what he'd do as President. They skipped him on taxes, the bridge collapse, and health care so that will hurt. Starting in September there will be a debate basically every week through November so hopefully by then a couple candidates have dropped out and the debates will be more open.

[torchbearer]

This country is in serious danger of a Roman Empire style collapse, and the ignorant citizens will be clapping as the walls come crashing down on them...
If people don't wake up soon we are doomed!
I talk to people about ron paul everyday... people have a glazed look in their eyes...

[Dustancostine]

I would say that the crowd was about 60 percent anti-war, and about 40 percent pro-war. RP got some loud applauses on his anti-war stance. Some were even trying to boo him on it, and the applauses drowned them out. Remember he can't convince everyone.

[10thAmendmentMan]

They only gave Ron a few times to respond and completely skipped him on issues he has a lot to say about (healthcare and taxes). Wonderful...

[shrugged0106]

anyone see this crap?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDc0OTZmMmEzNDEzOTM0Y2Q3NmFhZDgxYjVkM2NiMzM=

I Confess [Kathryn Jean Lopez]


I overslept. Almost forgot about the Republican debate. Woke up to Iowans cheering Ron Paul. Hit snooze.

[xita]

Worst. Debate. Ever.

[torchbearer]

There's a link on this page: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3437858&page=1

hmm... it wouldn't let me vote, it just showed me the vote totals when i clicked on the vote button.

[Meistro1]

Worst. Debate. Ever.

[richard1984]

When he said, "Just come home" I thought it was the biggest applause of the night. Hopefully that issue alone will help him at the straw poll since that's all he really got to address. I think he got two answer twice on the Iraq war, once on Cheney, and once on what he'd do as President. They skipped him on taxes, the bridge collapse, and health care so that will hurt. Starting in September there will be a debate basically every week through November so hopefully by then a couple candidates have dropped out and the debates will be more open.

They make me want to gag. Not the best way to wake up in the morning....

But hey, Dr. Paul is killin' 'em in the online polls. And you can't tell me that other candidates' supporters don't know how to use the internet. The internet itself is not a Ron Paul phenomenon. So obviously Ron Paul is awesome.

[SeanEdwards]

I feel like turning cannabilistic on stephonopoulos' face.

[Perry]

They don't love him...just our traffic

Think of it as ad time and we're paying for it.

[Dustancostine]

BTW: Originally Before the Debate the poll was intitled "Who Will Win the Debate"

During the Debate it said "Who is winning the debate"

After the Debate it said "Who won the debate"

Now that the good doctor is crushing it is now says again "Who Will Win the Debate"

That way they can't say he won the debate, that that was just pre-debate sentiment.

[richard1984]

Obama even gets a sound clip in the GOP debates! Good Lord.... Can't they just ask questions?

[torchbearer]

anyone see this crap?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDc0OTZmMmEzNDEzOTM0Y2Q3NmFhZDgxYjVkM2NiMzM=

I Confess [Kathryn Jean Lopez]


I overslept. Almost forgot about the Republican debate. Woke up to Iowans cheering Ron Paul. Hit snooze.

I actually find that funny.

[LibertyEagle]

Oh god, if Paul doesn't get the nomination, the Republican Party has no chance in hell to win the Presidency.
He also needs to interrupt these jokers just like they keep interrupting him!

YES! He's going to have to start being more forceful!

[Dustancostine]

Also I think Huckabee is the one we have to watch out for. He is a good speaker, and took RP stances on just about everything other than the war, which he was some what soft on. Maybe Thompson or Romney has told him to steal RP's stances, to dilute his support in exchange for VP.

[richard1984]

BTW: Originally Before the Debate the poll was intitled "Who Will Win the Debate"

During the Debate it said "Who is winning the debate"

After the Debate it said "Who won the debate"

Now that the good doctor is crushing it is now says again "Who Will Win the Debate"

That way they can't say he won the debate, that that was just pre-debate sentiment.

Good catch.

I wish they could be held accountable for their cheatin' ways!

[quickmike]

hmm... it wouldn't let me vote, it just showed me the vote totals when i clicked on the vote button.


probably because you clicked on a link someone posted after they voted

you need to go to the http://abcnews.go.com/politics link and look in the first box about 8 down and you will see "vote:who will win the debate"

[Electrostatic]

We need to DO SOMETHING about them skipping "Dr. Paul" on Healthcare and "The Taxpayers Best Friend" on Taxes...... Pure BS!

[richard1984]

YES! He's going to have to start being more forceful!

I agree. But also, he doesn't want to come across as an overbearing asshole like the rest of them. I doubt many people are watching this anyway.... I mean, it's church time!

[quickmike]

We need to DO SOMETHING about them skipping "Dr. Paul" on Healthcare and "The Taxpayers Best Friend" on Taxes...... Pure BS!

you cant do anything................ RP has to stick up for himself and go out there and get his time like the other lesser knowns did. Hopefully a bunch of them will be dropping out soon, which i think is gonna happen soon enough. Then Ron will get more time for sure.

[ThePieSwindler]

I'm sure im simply reitering the common sentiment here when i say that this debate SUCKED !!!!

I did like that Ron tried to have a little more fire in his belly.. but he got to talk on like 4 issues. He had like what, 3 minutes of face time total? Romney had to have had at least 20 minutes. I cant wait to see the graph of the speaking times for each candidates.. it felt like it was worse than last time. He would have dominated the health care and taxes question - but of course he wasnt asked them!

[Ron Paul Fan]

We need to DO SOMETHING about them skipping "Dr. Paul" on Healthcare and "The Taxpayers Best Friend" on Taxes...... Pure BS!

And the infrastructure question! Dr. Paul would have gotten a huge applause if he'd said something about spending billions of dollars bombing Iraq's bridges and building them back up again while bridges are defective here at home. And I agree with whoever said Huckabee was taking some of Dr. Paul's stances. I guess they might not be that wacky afterall.

[Lois]

Ron Paul could use more Comments here --

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comments?type=story&id=3394394

[LizF]

Think of it as ad time and we're paying for it.


yes, good point ;)

[richard1984]

Haha! Snuffalufagus just said "excuse me...excuse me!" to the crowd when they were cheering for Dr. Paul.

[LibertyEagle]

I'm ticked off. Snuffles cuts off Dr. Paul and then lets Ghouliani just go on and on and on.

[murph]

Ron at 64% of the vote on the ABC poll ...

[SeanEdwards]

I agree. But also, he doesn't want to come across as an overbearing asshole like the rest of them. I doubt many people are watching this anyway.... I mean, it's church time!

He needs to take the opportunity to CONFRONT the other fools on their insane policies. Call them out on their ridiculous monetary policy. Demand that they explain why they constantly vote to debase our currency or something. He needs to let his elbows fly and clear out some space for himself. Being polite in this den of lions is a sure way to end up as lunch.

[LibertyEagle]

I agree, Sean.

[MsDoodahs]

This country is in serious danger of a Roman Empire style collapse, and the ignorant citizens will be clapping as the walls come crashing down on them...
If people don't wake up soon we are doomed!
I talk to people about ron paul everyday... people have a glazed look in their eyes...

I would say that this country is already in the midst of a Roman Empire style collapse.

Rome did not fall in a day. It was a process - over time.

If you lived in Rome during the time that the empire was crumbling, what would you have seen around you?

[quickmike]

you guys need to remember that most people dont give two shits about politics in the summer. Only the hard core political junkies are following things now. If Ron can stick in for the long haul when the masses start paying attention, he will have more talk time when the others drop out............. no worries mates:D

[LizF]

I'm sure im simply reitering the common sentiment here when i say that this debate SUCKED !!!!

I did like that Ron tried to have a little more fire in his belly.. but he got to talk on like 4 issues. He had like what, 3 minutes of face time total? Romney had to have had at least 20 minutes. I cant wait to see the graph of the speaking times for each candidates.. it felt like it was worse than last time. He would have dominated the health care and taxes question - but of course he wasnt asked them!


Not only that, but Romney tried to jump in at least once when RP was answering. Looked like he was trying to have a "Giuliani moment" and put RP in his place. RP brushed him off, and when he was finished, GSteph moved on to another candidate, so Romney missed that chance to grandstand.

[LibertyEagle]

Not only that, but Romney tried to jump in at least once when RP was answering. Looked like he was trying to have a "Giuliani moment" and put RP in his place. RP brushed him off, and when he was finished, GSteph moved on to another candidate, so Romney missed that chance to grandstand.

Yeah, I noticed that. WAY TO GO, RON!