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alienpyro
01-30-2008, 11:00 AM
Just happened on his radio show... can ya'll help me find the transcript or soundbite to post......

Glenn Beck would be a huge supporter....



here is info so that you can stream it and hear it yourself????


The Glenn Beck Program can be heard on 264 stations across the US. Visit GlennBeck.com for a complete affiliate listing.

[edit] Streaming audio

These affiliates stream audio from the radio show during the indicated times:

* KNRS-AM 570, Weekdays 9–10 am (live third hour), 4–7 pm, Sunday 3–6 pm (Mountain Time Zone)

* KGAB-AM 650, Weekdays 1–4 pm and 10 pm–1 am, Saturday 5–8 pm, Sunday 4–8 pm (Mountain Time Zone)

* KSFA-AM 860, Weekdays 8–11 am (live) (Central Time Zone)

* WHAM-AM 1180, Weekdays 9–11 am (live, third hour not played) (Eastern Time Zone)

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HazardPerry
01-30-2008, 11:00 AM
He actually said Ron Paul? He would vote for Ron Paul?

VoluntaryMan
01-30-2008, 11:01 AM
Just happened on his radio show... can ya'll help me find the transcript or soundbite to post......

Glenn Beck would be a huge supporter....

If someone could post an mp3 or youtube of that, I'd like to hear it.

pacelli
01-30-2008, 11:02 AM
I'll believe it when I hear it myself.

A Ron Paul Rebel
01-30-2008, 11:03 AM
We might want to be careful with this!!!

It may be a ploy to confuse the public,
the campaigne and the grassroots.

Hunter

p.s. I'm not saying it's so, but we should
understand the 'why' behind it.

No1ButPaul08
01-30-2008, 11:04 AM
I imagine a LOT of people would support Dr. Paul over McNameDropper. Some people really really don't like McNameDropper.

ButchHowdy
01-30-2008, 11:08 AM
I heard it!

Thumper
01-30-2008, 11:11 AM
If RP runs 3rd party for President, he can't run Republican for his congressional seat.

If he runs 3rd party does he stand a chance of gettng on the ballot considering the lack of media coverage we currently enjoy?

Shouldn't we focus on winning the nomination of the Republican party by whatever means necessary rather than focusing on a 3rd party run?

Just questions.

As stated above by "A Ron Paul Rebel", I also think we really need to uderstand the "why" behind any offer of support from Glen Beck. He has had the opportunity to be a supporter of RP all along but he hasn't done much positive so far.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 11:12 AM
You guys have to understand: With McAmnesty vs Hillary, we will pick up millions of anti-illegal-alien voters, for starters. Ron can do better than Ross Perot in 1992.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 11:14 AM
If RP runs 3rd party for President, he can't run Republican for his congressional seat.

Evidence?


If he runs 3rd party does he stand a chance of gettng on the ballot considering the lack of media coverage we currently enjoy?

Wrong. He will easily get on the ballot.


Shouldn't we focus on winning the nomination of the Republican party by whatever means necessary rather than focusing on a 3rd party run?

Ron has already stated that "it's a safe bet" he will not get the GOP nomination. So it's time for plan b.

evadmurd
01-30-2008, 11:14 AM
If RP runs 3rd party for President, he can't run Republican for his congressional seat.

If he runs 3rd party does he stand a chance of gettng on the ballot considering the lack of media coverage we currently enjoy?


Unless he runs Libertarian. He'd be automatically on 46+ ballots.

ocomys
01-30-2008, 11:15 AM
youtube or it didn't happen

alienpyro
01-30-2008, 11:16 AM
im a huge fan of glann beck and honestly i think he has been supporting Ron Paul all along without using is name..... he has been fair to paul and seems to have everything in common minus the war.

Xenophage
01-30-2008, 11:16 AM
Beck disagrees with Paul on a lot of issues, most notably foreign policy. On other issues, he agrees with him quite unapologetically. I've always thought he was fair to Paul. Beck is looking for a real conservative, and he knows Paul is the only one running. He's been running shows about the economy and the national debt, and the Federal Reserve, and I'm sure this issue has struck home with him.

He is likely willing to "hold his nose" so to speak, and vote for Paul.

Every bit of support helps.

nate895
01-30-2008, 11:16 AM
Unless he runs Libertarian. He'd be automatically on 46+ ballots.

No, you must get signatures, but that's easy you only need 250-20,000 depending on the state.

Cleaner44
01-30-2008, 11:17 AM
Republicans are scared today because they see only liberal socialists leading their primary. All 4 top candidates are socialists. McCain is not a good choice for conservatives. This is great for RP.

NoLimit
01-30-2008, 11:18 AM
I said a while ago that Beck was on a trend towards supporting Paul, each time I watch him he gets closer and closer, he understands the economic problems we have

alienpyro
01-30-2008, 11:20 AM
i cant find the sound bite at all but if you google him you can find a station he is on 1 hour delay. its pretty much the last thing he talked about before the show ended.... Or if anybody can find the transcript........ but it was very clear..

Computer
01-30-2008, 11:20 AM
Glenn Beck is an attention whore. He's one of these people that calls the paparazzi to report sightings of himself. He just wants more emails. If he was going to endorse Ron Paul, then he'd do it. This is just masturbation.

derekjohnson
01-30-2008, 11:20 AM
No, you must get signatures, but that's easy you only need 250-20,000 depending on the state.

No...parties can get ballot access and the libertarians already have access in more than 30 states and usually end up with 45+ states. With Paul as their candidate, they would likely have the money and recognition to get all 50 states.

Thumper
01-30-2008, 11:21 AM
im a huge fan of glann beck and honestly i think he has been supporting Ron Paul all along without using is name..... he has been fair to paul and seems to have everything in common minus the war.

Sure, he parrots the talking points, but if he doesn't mention RP's name it doesn't really help in terms of educating all of the people that dont even know RP exists. It's not like he gets a lot of mention in the press so most people aren't aware that Beck is parroting RP's talking points.

As far as being fair to Paul, his melodramatic "I've had death threats from your supporters" BS during the interview with RP did a lot to hurt us. There was no reason to pull that stunt and it makes all of us look bad.

VoluntaryMan
01-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Beck disagrees with Paul on a lot of issues, most notably foreign policy. On other issues, he agrees with him quite unapologetically. I've always thought he was fair to Paul. Beck is looking for a real conservative, and he knows Paul is the only one running. He's been running shows about the economy and the national debt, and the Federal Reserve, and I'm sure this issue has struck home with him.

He is likely willing to "hold his nose" so to speak, and vote for Paul.

Every bit of support helps.

Explain how calling him a "terrorist" and "the mayor of Crazytowne" is "fair."

runderwo
01-30-2008, 11:33 AM
Evidence?

The GOP allows Republicans to run both for president and for their Congressional seat under the Republican ticket at the same time. They will not do an independent the same favor.

alienpyro
01-30-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't understand why people want to alienate possible supporters??? Why don;t we just say thank you..... He had RP on for an hour which is way more fair than any other new station or host....

GHoeberX
01-30-2008, 11:37 AM
I don't understand why people want to alienate possible supporters??? Why don;t we just say thank you..... He had RP on for an hour which is way more fair than any other new station or host....

I agree! Remember our goal is not to get into personal feuds; our goal is to get as many supporters as possible.

Azprint
01-30-2008, 11:38 AM
*shrug* one week we hate Beck, next week we love him. Which one is it now?

ronpaulyourmom
01-30-2008, 11:40 AM
To get on the ballot in all states we only need to collect about 800,000 signatures. I've read that somebody could hire paid signature gatherers to get the job done for about 3 million dollars. Of course in Ron Paul's case we have the precinct captains so it would probably be even cheaper.

The ballots are easy. We're already polling 11%+ in a McCain/Hillary/Paul contest according to a poll Rasmussen did a few days ago. The hard part is the debates and the money for organization, but I think it's within our reach to at least justify the attempt. I hope Ron feels the same way.

rollingpig
01-30-2008, 11:40 AM
is he pushing for a crying mitten third party run?

familydog
01-30-2008, 11:42 AM
You guys have to understand: With McAmnesty vs Hillary, we will pick up millions of anti-illegal-alien voters, for starters. Ron can do better than Ross Perot in 1992.

Evidence?

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 11:43 AM
The GOP allows Republicans to run both for president and for their Congressional seat under the Republican ticket at the same time. They will not do an independent the same favor.

EVIDENCE?????

dawnbt
01-30-2008, 11:43 AM
Why is it that when pundits and debate moderators bring up Ron running as a third party we are up in arms, however, this same issue is brought up on here daily?

Maz2331
01-30-2008, 11:43 AM
*shrug* one week we hate Beck, next week we love him. Which one is it now?

Both. Actually, everyone who listens to Beck has those cycles. He's a unique host in that regard.

dawnbt
01-30-2008, 11:44 AM
EVIDENCE?????

If I or anyone here can search and find the evidence...so can you. Find it yourself!

alienpyro
01-30-2008, 11:46 AM
here is info so that you can stream it and hear it yourself????


The Glenn Beck Program can be heard on 264 stations across the US. Visit GlennBeck.com for a complete affiliate listing.

[edit] Streaming audio

These affiliates stream audio from the radio show during the indicated times:

* KNRS-AM 570, Weekdays 9–10 am (live third hour), 4–7 pm, Sunday 3–6 pm (Mountain Time Zone)

* KGAB-AM 650, Weekdays 1–4 pm and 10 pm–1 am, Saturday 5–8 pm, Sunday 4–8 pm (Mountain Time Zone)

* KSFA-AM 860, Weekdays 8–11 am (live) (Central Time Zone)

* WHAM-AM 1180, Weekdays 9–11 am (live, third hour not played) (Eastern Time Zone)

Jim_Karr
01-30-2008, 11:46 AM
If RP runs 3rd party for President, he can't run Republican for his congressional seat.

If he runs 3rd party does he stand a chance of gettng on the ballot considering the lack of media coverage we currently enjoy?

Shouldn't we focus on winning the nomination of the Republican party by whatever means necessary rather than focusing on a 3rd party run?

Just questions.

As stated above by "A Ron Paul Rebel", I also think we really need to uderstand the "why" behind any offer of support from Glen Beck. He has had the opportunity to be a supporter of RP all along but he hasn't done much positive so far.

Does is matter if he gets his seat back. Hell I bet he can become governor of any state he chose with his support. But I do think he can win the presidentcy one way or another. Lets try the Republican first then the if need be,we force him to run 3 rd party.

familydog
01-30-2008, 11:54 AM
Why is it that when pundits and debate moderators bring up Ron running as a third party we are up in arms, however, this same issue is brought up on here daily?

QFT.

Something about sheeple and tricking the population etc...:rolleyes:

Mikeforpaul
01-30-2008, 11:54 AM
Paul said he will keep fighting as long as he has the money and the support.

My idea is we pick a day, register a domain for this "money bomb" now.

We have a money bomb that will show our support for Ron running 3rd party...

I'm sure everyone who hasn't maxed out yet would be very supportive of Ron continuing his run as a 3rd party candidate. This will be the biggest fund raising day IMO anyone has ever seen.

What is everyones thoughts on that?

Carole
01-30-2008, 11:57 AM
Do not be gullible. He will say anything he is told to say.

They would love to get Ron Paul out of the Republican race.

Beck would lose his job with the MSM before his support could help Paul.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 12:20 PM
bump

seapilot
01-30-2008, 12:30 PM
OK lets stop chat about third party until at least after super tuesday. Then we will have a better idea our odds in the convention.

alienpyro
01-30-2008, 12:32 PM
the third party thing isnt as important right now as the fact that glenn beck is a closet paul supporter

Shink
01-30-2008, 12:33 PM
*shrug* one week we hate Beck, next week we love him. Which one is it now?

Don't worry, some of us aren't composed of quicksilver. I always hate him. Even if he endorses Ron Paul and lies about being 'libertarian' for the next 30 years on his shows and the feds attack him for 'saying too much' and if his show becomes a rebroadcast of the Alex Jones show.

newmedia4ron
01-30-2008, 12:34 PM
Glen Beck plays games with us.
Turn off the radio and become a precinct leader or live in regret.

blakjak
01-30-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm sure everyone who hasn't maxed out yet would be very supportive of Ron continuing his run as a 3rd party candidate. This will be the biggest fund raising day IMO anyone has ever seen.


If he runs 3rd party all donor's donations are reset back to 0 (ie everyone can contribue $2300 again) - so no one would be "maxed out".

josh24601
01-30-2008, 12:35 PM
Remember when Ron Paul told Glenn Beck he did not want to?

cayton
01-30-2008, 12:38 PM
Paul said he will keep fighting as long as he has the money and the support.

My idea is we pick a day, register a domain for this "money bomb" now.

We have a money bomb that will show our support for Ron running 3rd party...

I'm sure everyone who hasn't maxed out yet would be very supportive of Ron continuing his run as a 3rd party candidate. This will be the biggest fund raising day IMO anyone has ever seen.

What is everyones thoughts on that?

I'm pretty sure that "maxing out" is only for the primaries. I think that if one were so inclined, you could give $2300 to his congressional campaign, $2300 for his primary campaign, and $2300 for his presidential campaign. Can anyone confirm or deny?

driller80545
01-30-2008, 12:44 PM
You are wasting your breath with this third party talk. Ain't gonna happen.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 12:46 PM
You are wasting your breath with this third party talk. Ain't gonna happen.

Wanna bet?

driller80545
01-30-2008, 12:49 PM
Wanna bet?

Ask Dr. Paul! Or better yet, listen to Dr. Paul.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-30-2008, 12:50 PM
Ask Dr. Paul! Or better yet, listen to Dr. Paul.

Yeah I listed to him in his recent Progress video where he said he would not rule out an independent run. I think it's you who needs to listen.

RonPaulFTFW
01-30-2008, 01:00 PM
F U Glen.

angrydragon
01-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Glenn is playing games.

angrydragon
01-30-2008, 01:04 PM
Yeah I listed to him in his recent Progress video where he said he would not rule out an independent run. I think it's you who needs to listen.

I've listened, and he's not going 3rd party.

nbhadja
01-30-2008, 01:27 PM
Ask Dr. Paul! Or better yet, listen to Dr. Paul.

You should listen to him...he has been hinting at running 3rd party for a the past week.

It was obvious he was gonna run 3rd party the whole time.
RP is a man of his words, if he really wasn't gonna run 3rd party at all he would have flat out said "No I am not" like he does for everything else (like whether he would support something unconstitutional).

Instead he has been answering all 3rd party questions with the same question: "I have no intention right now to run 3rd party."

morerocklesstalk
01-30-2008, 01:30 PM
I would love to see an indepedent run. If Hillary and McCain are the two options, we could really be in the race.

The GOP stigma can hide RP from potential voters who may have never heard his message and could agree with him.

theseus51
01-30-2008, 01:50 PM
I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here too:

Look at it from Ron Paul's point of view. He doesn't even like running for President. He said he tried a third party before, and didn't like it then. Nothing in life is guaranteed, and something drastic could happen that would make him want to be a 3rd party candidate, but it's very unlikely anything that drastic would happen. That's why he always says he's 99.99% sure he's not running for a 3rd party. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but he's not planning on anything past the GOP primary. And I believe him.

Put yourself in his shoes. He's probably tired of campaigning. He likes the attention he got, and is amazed at all his new supporters. But at the end of the day, he's a very reluctant politician, and doesn't want to be flying around the country for the next 10 months, running for President. He said it's hard to get on ballots, and since you can't get into the debates, what's the point? He knows he'll just be ignored by the media, and figures in the end, he'll get just enough votes to beat the margin of error.

He doesn't "owe" his supporters a 3rd party run. He's never hinted that he would run 3rd party if his GOP bid fails. He's been in dozens of nationally televised debates, and gotten his message out to a large crowd. Most people who don't care about politics, won't care about his views. Those that do care, already know about his platform and ideas. So yeah, I suspect he is being honest every time he says "I have no intention of running". We trust Ron Paul on everything else, let's trust him on that.

angrydragon
01-30-2008, 01:55 PM
You should listen to him...he has been hinting at running 3rd party for a the past week.

It was obvious he was gonna run 3rd party the whole time.
RP is a man of his words, if he really wasn't gonna run 3rd party at all he would have flat out said "No I am not" like he does for everything else (like whether he would support something unconstitutional).

Instead he has been answering all 3rd party questions with the same question: "I have no intention right now to run 3rd party."

No, he said no...

"No, I have no intention of going into another party. I've been elected 10 times as a Republican. I was from a Republican family. And no, I don't have -- I don't plan to do that. I wish they would worry about it, you know, just in case. But no, I have no intention of doing that, but it might keep them on their toes."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnOMMnMQSw

blakjak
02-04-2008, 05:56 PM
I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here too:

Look at it from Ron Paul's point of view. He doesn't even like running for President. He said he tried a third party before, and didn't like it then. Nothing in life is guaranteed, and something drastic could happen that would make him want to be a 3rd party candidate, but it's very unlikely anything that drastic would happen. That's why he always says he's 99.99% sure he's not running for a 3rd party. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but he's not planning on anything past the GOP primary. And I believe him.

Put yourself in his shoes. He's probably tired of campaigning. He likes the attention he got, and is amazed at all his new supporters. But at the end of the day, he's a very reluctant politician, and doesn't want to be flying around the country for the next 10 months, running for President. He said it's hard to get on ballots, and since you can't get into the debates, what's the point? He knows he'll just be ignored by the media, and figures in the end, he'll get just enough votes to beat the margin of error.

He doesn't "owe" his supporters a 3rd party run. He's never hinted that he would run 3rd party if his GOP bid fails. He's been in dozens of nationally televised debates, and gotten his message out to a large crowd. Most people who don't care about politics, won't care about his views. Those that do care, already know about his platform and ideas. So yeah, I suspect he is being honest every time he says "I have no intention of running". We trust Ron Paul on everything else, let's trust him on that.

yup

slantedview
02-04-2008, 06:01 PM
but he wouldn't vote for a republican ron paul?

rexsolomon
02-04-2008, 06:07 PM
It is an attempt by MSM to weaken Dr. Paul's resolve and show lack of integrity.
No one has won as a 3rd party. Being in the Republican party AS IS, is sufficiently problematic.

Unconditional endorsement for Dr. Paul or nothing!

Sweman
02-04-2008, 06:09 PM
bump

Evidence for this?

Joe3113
02-04-2008, 06:16 PM
Ron said himself that the Republicans are resisting him by not counting votes in Louisiana. He could easily run independent. If the GOP then said he can't run for his congressional seat, he should just run for the congressional seat as an independent aswell. And he doesn't need to run for the congressional seat because we are gonna win!

The Republicans left him, he didn't leave them.

dblee
02-04-2008, 06:28 PM
Sigh. Compare turnouts for republican primaries, the compare turnout for general election.

Sorry. Reality check.

joey
02-04-2008, 06:34 PM
i agree,glenn is playing games with us...he will say everything ron says,then he will say i wish there was a republican who held these views..lol he's an evil evil dirty dirty man...

btw he is voting for romney..him and his little side kick sue.....

noztnac
02-04-2008, 06:40 PM
If RP runs 3rd party for President, he can't run Republican for his congressional seat.

If he runs 3rd party does he stand a chance of gettng on the ballot considering the lack of media coverage we currently enjoy?

Shouldn't we focus on winning the nomination of the Republican party by whatever means necessary rather than focusing on a 3rd party run?

Just questions.

As stated above by "A Ron Paul Rebel", I also think we really need to uderstand the "why" behind any offer of support from Glen Beck. He has had the opportunity to be a supporter of RP all along but he hasn't done much positive so far.

The GOP is going to flood money to get him ousted from his congressional seat anyway.

kyleAF
02-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Sigh. Compare turnouts for republican primaries, the compare turnout for general election.

Sorry. Reality check.

QFT.

This isn't a percentage game. It's a numbers game if we're to compete in the general election.

Just about every one of us votes for him... and we get some GOP'ers and Dems to do so to the point of getting ~20% max in caucuses only.

Once you add in the additional MILLIONS of voters in each state who DO NOT vote in the primaries, we will be swamped... UNLESS Dr. Paul is a GOP candidate in the right place, at the right time, against the right opponent.

That's been our hope from the beginning. Right now, we have to keep getting GOP delegates, to keep a chance at the nationals.

QED

colecrowe
02-04-2008, 06:51 PM
He is absolutely right--and honest--to say that he "has no intention of going iNDEPENDENT or Third Party" because, right now, his only intention is to win the Republican nomination. He 100% fully intends to wholeheartedly run and try his best to win as a Republican while he is running as such, and he says so. He has NEVER, EVER said "I will not run iNDY". He has never, ever said "I will never run iNDY". But IF it becomes clear he cannot win the nomination, then he can go independent.

I would be very, very, very sad if he didn't go iNDY. He could win it, especially against Hillary (and she seems like the chosen one (it's all about the superdelegates).[/quote]

BenjFranklin
02-04-2008, 06:57 PM
I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here too:

Look at it from Ron Paul's point of view. He doesn't even like running for President. He said he tried a third party before, and didn't like it then. Nothing in life is guaranteed, and something drastic could happen that would make him want to be a 3rd party candidate, but it's very unlikely anything that drastic would happen. That's why he always says he's 99.99% sure he's not running for a 3rd party. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but he's not planning on anything past the GOP primary. And I believe him.

Put yourself in his shoes. He's probably tired of campaigning. He likes the attention he got, and is amazed at all his new supporters. But at the end of the day, he's a very reluctant politician, and doesn't want to be flying around the country for the next 10 months, running for President. He said it's hard to get on ballots, and since you can't get into the debates, what's the point? He knows he'll just be ignored by the media, and figures in the end, he'll get just enough votes to beat the margin of error.

He doesn't "owe" his supporters a 3rd party run. He's never hinted that he would run 3rd party if his GOP bid fails. He's been in dozens of nationally televised debates, and gotten his message out to a large crowd. Most people who don't care about politics, won't care about his views. Those that do care, already know about his platform and ideas. So yeah, I suspect he is being honest every time he says "I have no intention of running". We trust Ron Paul on everything else, let's trust him on that.

But he has something now that he didn't have in 1988....us. :)

scotto2008
02-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Right. And Ann Coulter will support Hillary.

I smell a fish. Or maybe I just smell Ann Coulter.

“Ron Paul Goes to the Zoo”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTAhveM_Hw

slamhead
02-04-2008, 07:12 PM
I don't know why people are so surprised. I have heard Glen Beck speak highly of Ron Paul. He is one of our best allies in the media.

CJLauderdale4
02-04-2008, 07:29 PM
Today's show ill re-air live in Miami on 610 WIOD here at 9PM EST:

http://610wiod.com/pages/glennbeck.html

It will stream live. Right now, they're playing Hannity....ughhh....I can't listen to slant-head!!

dvictr
02-04-2008, 07:33 PM
You guys have to understand: With McAmnesty vs Hillary, we will pick up millions of anti-illegal-alien voters, for starters. Ron can do better than Ross Perot in 1992.

+1

alienpyro
02-07-2008, 07:37 PM
yea yea.... way better than perot

Crickett
02-07-2008, 08:57 PM
No...parties can get ballot access and the libertarians already have access in more than 30 states and usually end up with 45+ states. With Paul as their candidate, they would likely have the money and recognition to get all 50 states.

Oh cripes..come ON..we can't even get him on all the ballots as a Republican!! People aren't gonna vote some vrazy third party stuff..GET OFF IT