Big day for Ron Paul tomorrow

[shadowhooch]

Well, this election rests completely on Ron Paul's shoulders tomorrow.

FIRST:
In the debate, he MUST convey to the public why their vote would not be "wasted" on him. That is the #1 thing he must get across.

The "wasted vote" problem is what sunk Guiliani. If it can sink someone with full time media exposure, it can surely sink someone who is ignored.

SECOND:
He must clearly call his opponents out and differentiate himself from them in clear, concise terms.

THIRD:
He must embrace the pro-life crowd. They are soul searching right now. They aren't fully behind Huckabee; they are skeptical of Romney; and they can't stand McCain. Time to step up and claim that Ron Paul is the strongest pro-life candidate there is.


Don't get me wrong. I'm still all for canvassing. But we need a little help from Ron to sway the masses. C'mon Ron. You can do it. Good luck tomorrow night. Freedom is depending on you.

[josh24601]

He simply must take the nice guy gloves out and call these remaining buffoons for the socialists that they are. It is becoming a fault of the campaign that more die hard conservatives don't understand him.

In no uncertain terms he must call them out as phoneys. Rush, Glen Beck, EVERYBODY with a shred of conservative brainwaves is thinking the exact same thing.

He can persuade people like this (their followers if not the ideologues themselves) about his foreign policy views by outlining how liberal they are everywhere else.

This means: no esoteric and confusing questions to McCain.

Ask the man: How are your immigration and abortion policies different, in specific terms, than those of Hillary Clinton?

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I respect Ron Paul for his ability to hold his composure through all he has been through but it is time to stop being Mr. Nice Guy. We really need him to go to war tomorrow and show the rest of the country that passion that we all know he has. he needs to call them out by name for their policies and attack them where it hurts. Make them look like idiots again (i.e. last debate with McCain) but do it so that the average American can understand that they are being made to look like the fools they are.

[N13]

The biggest issue is Ron's views on the Iraq war. This is how he can differentiate himself.

A Republican nominee who is for continued war is doomed in two ways. One, they cannot win the general election since 70% of americans are against the Iraq war. Two, they cannnot be fiscal conservatives and support the war at the same time. The War is not affordable and will bankrupt our economy.

The only Republican who can beat the democrats and save this nation is a fiscal conservative and Ron Paul is the only one.

[Carole]

Listen guys. He has to remain presidential and be subtle about calling anyone out. He will be branded as fringe and kooky again if he does not appear calm and rational. Take a lesson from the Democrats lately. It seems to have cost Clinton in SC.

Be careful what you wish for.

He knows what he is doing, but the unaccountable denominator is the voters who keep "voting" for McCain the madman. Even after he tells them there will be lots of wars for them to enjoy for Christ's sake. 100 years of wars-even 1000 years. The sheep vote for him.

Frankly, I think Florida is totally unrepresentative of the rest of the country, but really tonight was unbelievable.

I find it hard to fathom McCain getting so much support from people who dislike him.

I cannot even imagine that many people voting in this primary.

I wonder how bad his cancer is. Will he die before next November? I get the feeling he is being giving a gift by the Republican party for his years of service. these results just cannot be for real. :eek:

[cien750hp]

have you seen his commercials and statements today where he said "well, when they call eachother liberals, they're all telling the truth"

i think the gloves are coming off.

[Spideynw]

SECOND:
He must clearly call his opponents out and differentiate himself from them in clear, concise terms.

This is the only one he needs to do. Your number 3 is just a part of number 2.

He needs to simply answer the questions thrown at him quickly, and then go into what makes him different and better. He needs to drive into the crowd that the only Republcan that can have a chance of beating the Dems is an anti-war Republican, and that they are all throwing away their vote if they vote for anyone else besides him.

[cheese]

This is the only one he needs to do. Your number 3 is just a part of number 2.

He needs to simply answer the questions thrown at him quickly, and then go into what makes him different and better. He needs to drive into the crowd that the only Republcan that can have a chance of beating the Dems is an anti-war Republican, and that they are all throwing away their vote if they vote for anyone else besides him.

QFT. we have some smart grassroots :D why arent you working for the campaign by now?

[Lisa S]

There has to be a way also in ads or whatever that he is the most honest candidate. They were saying on CNN that John McCain gets the most votes not because of issues but because people think he is the most honest and trustworthy. I saw an article in a Florida paper that measured honesty of 300 politicians including all Presidential candidates and Ron Paul scored number 1 in honesty. He needs to stress that he always stands by his word no matter how unpopular. It seems to be more about emotion than intellect with the vast number of voters. Speeches also matter. That is why O'bama does so well not his issues but how he delivers them.

[GayRPFan]

I so totally agree with the above posters, its time for Ron Paul to prove to us that he has what it takes to be the next President of the United States. He absolutely MUST take the initiative and challenge these bastards and show the American public for what they are. Ron Paul's so-called Super Tuesday strategy begins tomorrow and he needs to come out hitting hard especially directing his fire toward McCain. McCain has a short fuse and Ron Paul can push his buttons. McCain can't ruffle Rp's feathers if RP can have his way, then feathers will be ruffled and more, hopefully he, RP takes his gloves are off.

Tomorrow, I await for the February 1st fireworks, this is what it has come down to and no one can tell me differently. This debate is a make or break time for Ron Paul he has got to go after them with the intensity of a Weimaraner* in the guise of a genteel doctor!

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimaraner
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Dr. McCoy: "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a politician!"

[Roadrcr]

I hate the lying SOB Mccain but don't wish death on anyone.

[Lisa S]

I wish he would also stress in the debate that he voted for war in Afghanistan and wants to get Bin Laden. He needs to say how much safer we would be with troops on our border and the danger of them off around the world if we were attacked here. Most average Republicans probably think he would not protect the country at all. He doesn't stress enough that you can be strong and protect country without pre-emptive wars and occupations.

[kyleAF]

There has to be a way also in ads or whatever that he is the most honest candidate. They were saying on CNN that John McCain gets the most votes not because of issues but because people think he is the most honest and trustworthy. I saw an article in a Florida paper that measured honesty of 300 politicians including all Presidential candidates and Ron Paul scored number 1 in honesty. He needs to stress that he always stands by his word no matter how unpopular. It seems to be more about emotion than intellect with the vast number of voters. Speeches also matter. That is why O'bama does so well not his issues but how he delivers them.

Can you post that "honesty" article for us?? Is there a link to it online?? GREAT resource if so...

[Suzu]

One more thing he needs to drive home - somehow: That most of what the audience has heard about him has been misconstrued by the pundits.

Tell me, why isn't this thread in the Campaign Suggestion Box (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=212) forum? Cuz that's the only place it might do any good.

[TaiwanGuy]

he does NOT need to emphasize the war issue. if there is one thing that every republican and their dog knows about ron paul, its that he is "that weird republican that doesnt like our war". he should advertise about the war in areas that fit that demographic and once we get into the general election, it should be all about the war and the economy, but right now he needs to get the republicans. they are SICK of hearing about the war they love. get them where they agree with paul: STRONG NATIONAL DEFENSE, SMALL GOVERNMENT, LOW TAXES, BALANCED BUDGETS, LOW INFLATION, PRO-LIFE, STRONG ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, ANYTHING THAT MAKES HIM SOUND NOTHING AT ALL LIKE A DEMOCRAT.

he needs to drive the point home that he is SO much more a republican than any candidate remaining.

he should only refer to the war if asked directly about it. also, stop talking about the department of education. if i hear him say "we used to say we wanted to get rid of the department of education, then we went and doubled the size of it," one more time, ill...just be frustrated. republicans care about spending, but they dont like to hear anything negative about education. thats all the idiots watching hear. he gets stuck on the same points too often.

i would really like to see the whole debate go by without hearing him mention the war (unless directly asked) or the department of education.

[nyjohn]

There's a million things we all agree he could improve on but guess what? He won't change a thing and we have to accept it. We've been doing this before every debate and nothing's changed. Not a single thing. If he's really serious about winning he might pull something off tomorrow but I doubt it. I predict Ron will be the same as he always is, and we'll be less than impressed by his performance as usual.

[peacemonger]

He needs to make people understand that he is for a strong national defense.

He needs to let people know that he will defend America from its enemies if necessary.

He needs to get past this image of being an ideologically anti-war pacifist.

He needs to state that, if war was declared, he would fight it ferociously using America's U.S. Air Force power. He would win the war within a matter of days and there would never be a need for troops on the ground getting killed.

When the war damage is done, and the enemy is left in shambles, we would not rebuild their nation for them like the neo-con liberal spenders running the GOP. We should not tax American's to rebuild our enemies' nations. If they would do us harm, then we should leave them in ashes so that they can be an example and a deterrent to others who threaten us.

All of the rest of the non-interventionist foreign policy is not being listened to because the sheeple all think Ron Paul is a pacifist chicken. Non-interventionism is the right idea and I am 100% for it but he needs to let people know that they are safe with him in charge. He should emphasize walking softly but carrying a big stick. People like that kind of stuff.

If he does this he can take Feb 5th in a landslide.

[Liberty]

It would be great if Ron gave a shocking answer that the sheep can comprehend. Something to the effect, there will be no social security and poor national defense if the U.S. goes bankrupt. If our current policies at home and abroad continue, it is a real possibility. Senator McCain, how are you going to pay for the 100 year occupation of Iraq you proposed?

[nate895]

He needs to assert himself into each and every topic, and fight others. He needs to choose an issue besides the war in which to provoke an argument, without doing so directly. He needs headlines.

[CaliforniaGold]

He just needs to tell the truth and demand the time to do it!

[Swmorgan77]

Listen guys. He has to remain presidential and be subtle about calling anyone out. He will be branded as fringe and kooky again if he does not appear calm and rational.

He will be ANYWAY!

[affa]

There's a million things we all agree he could improve on but guess what? He won't change a thing and we have to accept it. We've been doing this before every debate and nothing's changed. Not a single thing. If he's really serious about winning he might pull something off tomorrow but I doubt it. I predict Ron will be the same as he always is, and we'll be less than impressed by his performance as usual.

what debates have you been watching? Ron Paul amazes me every single debate. From the 'are you electable' question to the McCain trouncing, Ron Paul is a powerhouse.

They don't give him time because every time they do he wins voters. Period.

[zackmario]

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Economy_Foreign_Policy_questions_to_Dominate_1_30_ CNN_Debate

[UnitedWeStand]

He needs to make people understand that he is for a strong national defense.

He needs to let people know that he will defend America from its enemies if necessary.

He needs to get past this image of being an ideologically anti-war pacifist.

He needs to state that, if war was declared, he would fight it ferociously using America's U.S. Air Force power. He would win the war within a matter of days and there would never be a need for troops on the ground getting killed.

When the war damage is done, and the enemy is left in shambles, we would not rebuild their nation for them like the neo-con liberal spenders running the GOP. We should not tax American's to rebuild our enemies' nations. If they would do us harm, then we should leave them in ashes so that they can be an example and a deterrent to others who threaten us.

All of the rest of the non-interventionist foreign policy is not being listened to because the sheeple all think Ron Paul is a pacifist chicken. Non-interventionism is the right idea and I am 100% for it but he needs to let people know that they are safe with him in charge. He should emphasize walking softly but carrying a big stick. People like that kind of stuff.

If he does this he can take Feb 5th in a landslide.


agreed!! please send this to the campaign "contact us" asap!

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

This should be awesome! With Rudy out, it will be a lot more time for RP.

[zakkubin]

I really hope they each get some closing arguments to speak. If each candidate had 2 minutes it would be an amazing chance for Paul to evaluate his competition.

If he could sqeeze in this evaluation else ware I would be all for it.

100 war McCain - who based off my economic question to him last week is lacking in this vital area.
Huckabee -who will solve our problems through more government and higher taxes.
Mitt- who used to be a liberal but is now claims to be conservative.

Then like you guys are saying just be honest and say the republicans will lose to Hillary or Obama if we elect a pro war candidate. This war is financially bankrupting our country and 70% of the American public wants it over.


I would also like to hear him change his argument to the others about Iraq. Why not just say mission accomplished. We eliminated WMD and Saddam. Thus we should come home and allow the Iraq's to re build their own gov. It sounds better than to constantly say we shouldn't have gone.

It's 2:40 am sorry if this didn't make any sense.

[BreakYourChains]

There's a million things we all agree he could improve on but guess what? He won't change a thing and we have to accept it. We've been doing this before every debate and nothing's changed. Not a single thing. If he's really serious about winning he might pull something off tomorrow but I doubt it. I predict Ron will be the same as he always is, and we'll be less than impressed by his performance as usual.

Speak for yourself, sir. I have been impressed with Ron Paul in all of the debates. When he gets equal time, he is brilliant! Yes, he should stop saying "Republicans used to be for getting rid of the dept of education" and stop saying "not going to throw people out in the streets" as examples, because his choice of words actually make people think of negative pictures in their minds. But, he impresses me, and many others as well.

[JohnnyWrath]

I wish he would also stress in the debate that he voted for war in Afghanistan and wants to get Bin Laden. He needs to say how much safer we would be with troops on our border and the danger of them off around the world if we were attacked here. Most average Republicans probably think he would not protect the country at all. He doesn't stress enough that you can be strong and protect country without pre-emptive wars and occupations.

ding ding ding... I agree 100% He is coming off as completely anti-war to the point it seems he would not defend the country...we know this isn't true, but it is being shown in this light.

[ralucelom]

im so siked for this debate. RP is gonna show em up.
Last debate wasnt half bad, n I hope he blows em outta the water tonight.

[Highstreet]

Well, this election rests completely on Ron Paul's shoulders tomorrow.

FIRST:
In the debate, he MUST convey to the public why their vote would not be "wasted" on him. That is the #1 thing he must get across.

The "wasted vote" problem is what sunk Guiliani. If it can sink someone with full time media exposure, it can surely sink someone who is ignored.

SECOND:
He must clearly call his opponents out and differentiate himself from them in clear, concise terms.

THIRD:
He must embrace the pro-life crowd. They are soul searching right now. They aren't fully behind Huckabee; they are skeptical of Romney; and they can't stand McCain. Time to step up and claim that Ron Paul is the strongest pro-life candidate there is.


Don't get me wrong. I'm still all for canvassing. But we need a little help from Ron to sway the masses. C'mon Ron. You can do it. Good luck tomorrow night. Freedom is depending on you.

He has taken the gloves off with his New Ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWL7F4nK_Yw

And I think this will continue in the debate.

I think he needs to tout his 2nd place wins in Louisiana and Nevada, despite his humble character. That would get the word out about his momentum and viability.

We need to do the job of spreading this viability message and his Social Conservative credentials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkkV5_88WfE

[jglapski]

I wish he would also stress in the debate that he voted for war in Afghanistan and wants to get Bin Laden. He needs to say how much safer we would be with troops on our border and the danger of them off around the world if we were attacked here. Most average Republicans probably think he would not protect the country at all. He doesn't stress enough that you can be strong and protect country without pre-emptive wars and occupations.

ABSOLUTELY.

The anti-war in Iraq message is being twisted as anti-American, whereas in truth it is anything but.

And find John McCain where he talks about how he met with an al Qaeda operative. So much for following bin Laden to the gates of hell.

Meanwhile, highlight that not only has Paul voted for the war in Afghanistan, but was opposed to how national defense was subcontracted out by the Pentagon at Tora Bora and how he proposed a bill to issue a Letter of Marque and Reprisal.