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davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:02 PM
Whether Dr. Paul is successful or not in November, it is important to remember that his message of conservative values and a return to our Constitutional principles be carried forward to the next election. If the experiences of this campaign has taught us anything, it has taught us that Dr. Paul's message must not only be picked up by other candidates running for public office, but that his message be heard within the Republican Party and the general electorate as well.
My question is, how can we best accomplish this task, a task that has clearly fallen upon our shoulders to carry forward?
ex animo
davidfarrar
rancher89
01-29-2008, 07:04 PM
we canvass in neighboring states every chance we get!
we contribute to the campaign so that he can be more visable in upcoming primaries!
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:08 PM
DO NOT leave the REVOLUTION !!!
That is the most important thing, we are like a FIRESTORM and we have the MOMENTUM to get hundreds of people into the senate, congress, local positions, and presidency in the coming years.
IMAGINE we can run NATIONAL campaigns for every Ron Paul Republican running in any of the 50 states!!! We can completely outfundraise the competition and COMPLETELY change the face of state AND national polotics!
We can do this, but only if you MAINTAIN the momentum, and work to not only KEEP TOGETHER the REVOLUTION but EXPAND it as well!!!!!!!!!
Image if we spread the platform as hard as we have been for the next 4-8 years! JUST THINK about how ahead of the game that would put us for the next presidential election not to mention all the changes we will be able to manage from within the states!!!
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:22 PM
DO NOT leave the REVOLUTION !!!
That is the most important thing, we are like a FIRESTORM and we have the MOMENTUM to get hundreds of people into the senate, congress, local positions, and presidency in the coming years.
IMAGINE we can run NATIONAL campaigns for every Ron Paul Republican running in any of the 50 states!!! We can completely outfundraise the competition and COMPLETELY change the face of state AND national polotics!
We can do this, but only if you MAINTAIN the momentum, and work to not only KEEP TOGETHER the REVOLUTION but EXPAND it as well!!!!!!!!!
Image if we spread the platform as hard as we have been for the next 4-8 years! JUST THINK about how ahead of the game that would put us for the next presidential election not to mention all the changes we will be able to manage from within the states!!!
KEEP THE REVOLUTION GOING !!!
I like that...that is definitely the first thing to remember.
Now that our heads are in the right place, what are the practical steps we should be at least starting to examine now, before November to insure that Dr. Paul's message not only continues, but strengthens?
I mean, should we keep our MeetUps going?
tpreitzel
01-29-2008, 07:27 PM
I mean, should we keep our MeetUps going?
Yes! Maintaining the infrastructure is vitally important. The contacts generated through the Meet-up groups are invaluable.
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:36 PM
Further discussion here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1114082#post1114082
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:36 PM
KEEP the REVOLUTION ALIVE!!!
Perhaps we should form a cyber committee to start thinking in this area. We need to start developing solid, concrete steps that can be disseminated throughout Dr. Paul's supporters in each state so we can focus our efforts.
JDouglasFisher
01-29-2008, 07:39 PM
If I am not mistaken, I believe (at least in NJ) we are looking into modernizing the Republican Liberty Caucus, and I'd suggest the rest of the country does the same thing...
You get to change your meetups to reflect the transition, in my case,
Ron Paul Republicans of Passaic County #1251
becomes
Republican Liberty Caucus of Passaic County #1251
See how it works?
Joe.
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Definately agree! This is from my other topic:
Sirachman:
Beyond
DO NOT leave the R[EVOL]UTION !!!
That is the most important thing, we are like a FIRESTORM and we have the MOMENTUM to get hundreds of people into the senate, congress, local positions, and presidency in the coming years.
Winning (or losing) the bid for presidency IS NOT the sole purpose of the revolution, but instead it is spreading the platform of the constitution, of liberty, of peace, and all the rest!
IMAGINE we can run NATIONAL campaigns for every Ron Paul Republican running in any of the 50 states!!! We can completely outfundraise the competition and COMPLETELY change the face of state AND national polotics!
We can do this, but only if you MAINTAIN the momentum, and work to not only KEEP TOGETHER the REVOLUTION but EXPAND it as well!!!!!!!!!
Image if we spread the platform as hard as we have been for the next 4-8 years! JUST THINK about how ahead of the game that would put us for the next presidential election not to mention all the changes we will be able to manage from within the states!!!
We CAN TAKE and HOLD the Republican party, and return it to its ORIGINAL intent!!
MrAustin:
I whole heartedly agree!
How about a website, like "ronpaulrepublicans.com" or something similar - where we could all continue networking? I think this is extremely important. We must not fizzle out. This movement is too important. I know I'm in it for the long haul.
sgrooms:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAustin
How about a website, like "ronpaulrepublicans.com" or something similar - where we could all continue networking? I think this is extremely important. We must not fizzle out. This movement is too important. I know I'm in it for the long haul.
i was thinking the same name for a website. looks like someone already bought it.
Sirachman:
I am definately glad to hear that, I originally thought that the libertyforest.com website was going to be for this purpose. However I am not completely sure of this. I think we definately need to keep the revolution going.
We can call it the: Republican R[EVOL]UTION
since it is post Ron Paul, or continue to call it the Ron Paul R[EVOL]UTION, or BOTH.
We can also call ourselves Ron Paul Republicans, but either way the main point is the platform established concretely by Ron Paul which is pushed and will continue to be pushed in our R[EVOL]UTION. As Ron Paul himself frequently says he is merely voicing the message and it is bigger than him. Just as Ron may be anti-abortion on a personal level, and I may lean more pro-abortion on a personal level we still agree on the concept of states rights and disagree with implementing a country wide dictator-esqe mandate for or against it. We must spread the message as itself but set down by the dear Dr. Paul!
Given time we can completely circumvent mass media and win over the country. This is the way the founders of the country passed around ideas. They did not rely on a government or overreaching media to spread their political views they hit the countryside and spread it themselves. In our era we have a much larger population so the task is much larger, yet we also have the power of those we spread our message to who can work with us. This is a huge undertaking but given time which we have much of we can TRULY awaken as well as change this country. Not only at a National level as this election attempts to do, but at a local level. As far as the national presidential election goes, if you think we have made progress with Ron Paul, just wait until we have had 4-8 years of more work spreading the platform. Whomever we back as a movement when THAT time comes will truly face the opposition with an unfair advantage, and thats something I would enjoy seeing!
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Can't wait for further discussion/coordination! THIS IS MASSIVELY IMPORTANT
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Further discussion here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1114082#post1114082
The website would have all the meet-ups listed other useful information, to be sure.
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:43 PM
If I am not mistaken, I believe (at least in NJ) we are looking into modernizing the Republican Liberty Caucus, and I'd suggest the rest of the country does the same thing...
You get to change your meetups to reflect the transition, in my case,
Ron Paul Republicans of Passaic County #1251
becomes
Republican Liberty Caucus of Passaic County #1251
See how it works?
Joe.
Id personally prefer staying Ron Paul Republicans in honor of Ron Paul, and keep moving toward the goal or retaking the Republican party. It is so weak now and dissalussioned that it would be alot easier than trying to form some 3rd party or some crap which has been shown to not work.
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:46 PM
The website would have all the meet-ups listed other useful information, to be sure.
Definatley agree, first step would be to set up the website and list these intentions. Then to establish a database of ALL meetup members and any corresponding personal info we can obtain and then to contact them ALL about the plans and allow others to join the database. Then establish a forum and start helping local cantidates across the country among other things.
Hey i need to go study chemistry now though so keep the topic bumped or if you have to go just send me a private message.
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:46 PM
I wonder if this forum has any plans to continue after the election? Anybody know?
sirachman
01-29-2008, 07:49 PM
I wonder if this forum has any plans to continue after the election? Anybody know?
The idea is for libertyforest.com to take over but as I was saying earlier I dont know what the intentions of that forum are. If they are different than what we are discussing then maybe we should make an attempt to persuade a different or secondary route. I think people need to stay on the mission of taking control of the Republican party through the Ron Paul Republican platform plus its a hell of alot easier to get elected as a rp republican to congress/senate/local office than as some 3rd party. Hell people wont even have to always say out and out they are a RP Republican but simply state their stances on the issues according to the platform and what applies for the office they are running for and then the organization of rp republicans will help coordinate and fundraise for their election.
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:49 PM
Id personally prefer staying Ron Paul Republicans in honor of Ron Paul, and keep moving toward the goal or retaking the Republican party. It is so weak now and dissalussioned that it would be alot easier than trying to form some 3rd party or some crap which has been shown to not work.
Once we split up we become weaker. This is exactly why Dr. Paul is a Republican now.
No, we don't have the time to reinvent the wheel. We really do need to bring about change now and fire a shot across their bow by the bi-elections.
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 07:52 PM
The idea is for libertyforest.com to take over but as I was saying earlier I dont know what the intentions of that forum are. If they are different than what we are discussing then maybe we should make an attempt to persuade a different or secondary route. I think people need to stay on the mission of taking control of the Republican party through the Ron Paul Republican platform plus its a hell of alot easier to get elected as a rp republican to congress/senate/local office than as some 3rd party. Hell people wont even have to always say out and out they are a RP Republican but simply state their stances on the issues according to the platform and what applies for the office they are running for and then the organization of rp republicans will help coordinate and fundraise for their election.
I think we can change the Republican Party from within faster than build up another party. That is just my opinion.
IDefendThePlatform
01-29-2008, 07:55 PM
I think a database of meet-up members is a good idea. Those of us who are interested in canvassing for limited goverment could be called upon to support other liberty-minded candidates. I'm not sure exactly how to work it, but count me in.
Delivered4000
01-29-2008, 07:57 PM
The Republican party is rotten beyond the point of no return
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 08:02 PM
The Republican party is rotten beyond the point of no return
The Republican Party is made up of people, just like you and me. And the one thing they respect is power. I think we are all going to be surprised just how many Republican Party members are going to be talking Dr. Paul's language after this election. Things have changed. Dr. Paul's message has been hear, is being heard. There is no going back.
hypnagogue
01-29-2008, 08:15 PM
If you wanted to "reform" the Republican party you'd have to throw out damn near everything but the name. That doesn't sound much easier than just forming a new party. Not the mention the fact that the Republican name will likely always be tainted by bigotry, warmongering, greed, corruption, and hateful religious pageantry.
I'd be a thousand times more satisfied with a new party.
davidfarrar
01-29-2008, 08:28 PM
If you wanted to "reform" the Republican party you'd have to throw out damn near everything but the name. That doesn't sound much easier than just forming a new party. Not the mention the fact that the Republican name will likely always be tainted by bigotry, warmongering, greed, corruption, and hateful religious pageantry.
I'd be a thousand times more satisfied with a new party.
We can transform the RP...hey! same initials as Ron Paul...from within. All you have to do is know how, and I think Dr. Paul can best tell us how to do that, if we ask him and, of course, KEEP THE REVOLUTION ALIVE!!!
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