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EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 06:20 PM
Hi Forum,

I dont post much because i am usually busy with running the Tulsa meetup group, but i just wanted to let you all know that the little-known Oklahoma Caucus is tonight and that we (Ron Paul supporters) are going to kick some butt!

The Tulsa GOP has been flooded with a huge turnout (that they were not expecting) and most of them are Ron Paul supporters.

We wont be in the national news, but let me tell you that Oklahoma is going to choose some delegates tonight and Ron Paul supporters are going to make up the bulk of them.

Off to run my precinct meeting!

Eric
Organizer,
Tulsa Ron Paul Meetup

-lotus-
01-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Kick ass Oklahoma!

Starks
01-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Sounds great, but unfortunately the MSM won't even care.

kirkblitz
01-29-2008, 06:23 PM
i didnt even know OK had a caucus

WilliamC
01-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Sounds like you Okies are doing something right!

Way to go, thanks!

CountryboyRonPaul
01-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Make sure you get every last vote out.

Don't let them do to you what they did to us in LA.

LizC
01-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Awesome news....keep us posted....

tomveil
01-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Let us know how it goes!

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 06:25 PM
Make sure you get every last vote out.

Don't let them do to you what they did to us in LA.

We have people with Camera's and notepads to take down any regularities. We are also telling people to take documentation out the wazoo (voter ID card etc).

ashlux
01-29-2008, 06:25 PM
Most of Oklahoma precincts meet tonight to elect delegates. Those delegates will (eventually) elect the national delegates. The national delegates are bound to the primary vote that will take place Feb 5th.

mavtek
01-29-2008, 06:26 PM
Well that will make me feel better after watching Florida :(

chiplitfam
01-29-2008, 06:26 PM
Okies are totally Demoratic. It will be interesting to see the Republican vote there.

itshappening
01-29-2008, 06:26 PM
careful of GOP trickery eh

Trigonx
01-29-2008, 06:27 PM
i'm glad to hear this :), fuck the MSM we don't need them to get delegates, we got a message and loyal supporters.

RoamZero
01-29-2008, 06:27 PM
Good luck! Give us a report when you get back!

hueylong
01-29-2008, 06:28 PM
Oklahoma has a Winner Take All primary on February 5th.

GHoeberX
01-29-2008, 06:29 PM
So if I get this right; ALL delegates will have to vote on whoever wins the 5-Feb primary. But in case of a brokered convention, it does matter of course :)

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Oklahoma has a Winner Take All primary on February 5th.

Don't forget! In the occurrence of a brokered convention, these delegates have the opportunity to become unbound from the result of the primary. ;)

ashlux
01-29-2008, 06:30 PM
careful of GOP trickery eh

Arguably, I'd say there already has been.

Moving a location or two at the last minute, for example (or so I've been told).

Also, there's no easy way to find out where your precinct meeting is located without emailing or calling someone to find out. Obviously not posting the meeting time or places lowers the level of participation. It has also been causing some confusion.

Ayse
01-29-2008, 06:31 PM
sweet.

OKRonPaul
01-29-2008, 06:31 PM
Just getting ready to head around the corner to ours. It's at a residence, not sure what to expect.

LJHudd
01-29-2008, 06:32 PM
Go Okies! Or Sooners ;)

Make us proud!

(I didn't know ya'll had a caucus either)

Anna Karenina
01-29-2008, 06:37 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing the results of this caucus.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 06:37 PM
Arguably, I'd say there already has been.

Moving a location or two at the last minute, for example (or so I've been told).

Also, there's no easy way to find out where your precinct meeting is located without emailing or calling someone to find out. Obviously not posting the meeting time or places lowers the level of participation. It has also been causing some confusion.

There was some of this confusion. The Tulsa GOP did switch a location at the last minute (due to us flooding them with participants).

We have people posted to redirect and give information if needed.

We did get screwed with (a little) but think we are dealing with it ok.

We saw what happened in LA and are doing our best to make sure it does not happen here.

Yom
01-29-2008, 06:37 PM
Wow! Nice! Don't forget we absolutely HAVE to win 5 states to be a candidate in the brokered convention, though.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Also,

The Caucus here in Tulsa will have a straw poll which we should know the results of tonight. I'll let you all know how we come out. :-)

kyleAF
01-29-2008, 06:47 PM
And we live up to our advertising theme... viral. Only we are learning and adapting as we go...

Stick it to 'em, and beat them at their own GOP game.

And if they try anything at all, just dig up their personal information and let us ALL know. We can flood their inboxes and voicemails for weeks, like we did with the FOX big wig. Show them that people are watching and that we CARE, and it'll send a message not to F*** with us. Post their pics around OK and let Paul-supporting business owners know to BOLO them and refuse business, and to let them know why.

Matter of fact, let's get this going on the Louisiana caucus, too.

dblee
01-29-2008, 07:13 PM
what??? awesome!

Ayse
01-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Any word on this yet?

OKRonPaul
01-29-2008, 08:40 PM
we just got back from ours (NOT the big one) where Ron Paul won!
12 people at a nearby house we were allowed 17 delegates and I believe all 12 of us signed up. I know the 4 RP supporters there did. The rest of the folks there were very fractured
4 Paul
3 Huck
2 McCain
1 Romney
1 Rudy (she admitted she didn't know who she wanted)
1 Thompson ( I think he was joking around)

OKRonPaul
01-29-2008, 08:52 PM
I should add, we had very nice hosts - long time GOP party members. He ran for mayor a few years back and has a morning talk show on am radio here. I'll have to start listening.

Myerz
01-29-2008, 08:54 PM
We don't smoke Marijuana in Muskogee...... We do in Oregon though.....cough...cough...cough.

UCFGavin
01-29-2008, 08:55 PM
so how did this turn out?

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 08:59 PM
I had much better turnout at my meeting than i expected. 6 people including myself!

I was elected precinct chairman as well as a delegate to the Tulsa County convention.

The results of my straw poll was: 6 votes for Ron Paul

:)

steph3n
01-29-2008, 09:01 PM
I had much better turnout at my meeting than i expected. 6 people including myself!

I was elected precinct chairman as well as a delegate to the Tulsa County convention.

The results of my straw poll was: 6 votes for Ron Paul

:)

haha nice 100%

nc4rp
01-29-2008, 09:11 PM
sweet.

UK4Paul
01-29-2008, 09:21 PM
Keep an eye open for the LA scam!

OKRonPaul
01-29-2008, 09:38 PM
One other good thing our hosts brought up (since we seem to be doing so well in the Tulsa area). Hopefully I recall this all correctly. The state convention will be in Tulsa for the first time in many years. He said that typically it's in Oklahoma City, and only half the 500 or so district delegates from the tulsa part of the state are able to go. If we really turn out to be as strong in Tulsa as it seems I think this could work in our favor when we try to get pro-ron paul delegates sent to the national convention.

They did say something about the national delegates being "selected" making it sound like it wasn't a pure delegates voting for national delegates type scenario. I need to look into that more.

matratzac
01-29-2008, 09:42 PM
how come this isnt getting more attention?

kyleAF
01-29-2008, 09:42 PM
From what I've heard, there really is no such thing as a "pre-selected" delegate... just "incumbents" who can be replaced if the vote is right...

I may be wrong though.

matratzac
01-29-2008, 09:44 PM
where can we find the results for this?

V4Vendetta
01-29-2008, 09:44 PM
I had much better turnout at my meeting than i expected. 6 people including myself!

I was elected precinct chairman as well as a delegate to the Tulsa County convention.

The results of my straw poll was: 6 votes for Ron Paul

:)

THATS AWESOME MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tronchaser
01-29-2008, 09:48 PM
Just got back from my precinct meeting.... me and one other lady. :)

I'm now the precinct chairman, and a delegate to the Cleveland county convention.

I know there were at least 2 other precinct chairs that were RP supporters, one had a RP revolution shirt on, the other guy was very friendly.

There was no straw vote though... maybe we should have had one? I'll see if we can't have one for the county convention.

skyfi
01-29-2008, 09:53 PM
House District 92, didn't have a meeting but joined neighboring distict 93's precinct meeting... 18 in attendance or so...

There was never a straw poll as far as I know. In my precint my girlfriend and I became delegates for our precinct (only 2 ppl from our precinct to show) and a friend who came along and signed up to be a delegate as well (only to show from his precinct also).

I talked to another Ron Paul supporter there and his table had 3 supporters 1 of which is running for local office in our district, and 3 supporters at my table. So we had 6/18 so not bad. I saw one Mitt supporter who passed out stickers to fellow Mitt supporters (about 4 or 5 in total). I saw no one or heard anything about any other candidates.

Thats the report from Precinct 518, House District 92.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 09:53 PM
Just got back from my precinct meeting.... me and one other lady. :)

I'm now the precinct chairman, and a delegate to the Cleveland county convention.

I know there were at least 2 other precinct chairs that were RP supporters, one had a RP revolution shirt on, the other guy was very friendly.

There was no straw vote though... maybe we should have had one? I'll see if we can't have one for the county convention.

I think the "straw poll" part is optional depending on the county. It was not a "named form" like the others which were official OK GOP. I know Garfield county did a straw poll too.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 09:54 PM
how come this isnt getting more attention?

You got me. I gave it quite a bit of attention my self. ;)

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 10:01 PM
Bump because Oklahoma is cool

plh
01-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey everyone! My husband and I just got back from our precinct meetings. We have 5 delegates from our precinct and 4 of those are now filled with Ron Paul supporters! All the other precincts in our county met at the same time. The Ron Paul support was great! We took a straw poll and Ron Paul won! Support for Ron Paul is strong in the Le Flore County GOP!

OKRonPaul
01-29-2008, 10:09 PM
plh - great work!

Someone has got to be back from the big tulsa meeting they had on memorialst, how di dthat one go????

AlexMerced
01-29-2008, 10:16 PM
wooooooot

InLoveWithRon
01-29-2008, 10:19 PM
Oklahoma is OK with me.

UCFGavin
01-29-2008, 10:22 PM
so how does this work? we seem to be racking up in the people department, but what does it mean in the long run?

Ron2Win
01-29-2008, 10:29 PM
so how does this work? we seem to be racking up in the people department, but what does it mean in the long run?
Delegates is what matters. I would like to see the numbers but it looks like OK was good for RP.

matratzac
01-29-2008, 10:33 PM
why arent we hearing more about this?

kirkblitz
01-29-2008, 10:37 PM
why arent we hearing more about this?

no one lives there

Ara825
01-29-2008, 10:41 PM
I lived in Oklahoma for 36 years, moved to Texas 4 years ago. I miss Lake Texoma, the Red River and most of all my grandkids living next door. Oklahoma is a beautiful state with a lot of wonderful people and Native American casinos out the wazoo.

bomybomy
01-29-2008, 10:41 PM
Ron Paul came in 2nd in the 14 districts representing most of the North Oklahoma City/Edmond area. Ron Paul got 10, Mitt Romney got 12. 3rd place got 5 or something.

When they read the results, the room gasped! Ha ha!

bomybomy
01-29-2008, 10:42 PM
Okies are totally Demoratic. It will be interesting to see the Republican vote there.

That's absolutely wrong.

IntruderII
01-29-2008, 10:44 PM
no one lives there

It's ranked 28th in the U.S. for population... not all that bad.

For those curious what these results mean: Probably nothing -- unless we have a brokered convention. Oklahoma still holds its primary on super tuesday, this is just the delegate selections.

matratzac
01-29-2008, 10:44 PM
so when do u think we will find out the final results from tonight? think the news will talk about them?

mavtek
01-29-2008, 10:45 PM
Ron Paul came in 2nd in the 14 districts representing most of the North Oklahoma City/Edmond area. Ron Paul got 10, Mitt Romney got 12. 3rd place got 5 or something.

When they read the results, the room gasped! Ha ha!

Is this true? That rocks!

bomybomy
01-29-2008, 10:45 PM
Not of the delgates are truly "declared"....they don't do that. They just took straw polls. In y district, there are 4 delegates. 2 were for Romney, 2 for Paul.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 10:45 PM
so when do u think we will find out the final results from tonight? think the news will talk about them?

We will have straw poll results in Tulsa county some time tomorrow.

We wont find out the results until the various county conventions and finally the State and District conventions.

bomybomy
01-29-2008, 10:46 PM
Is this true? That rocks!

These are precint delegates. They will go to the county and state delegate convention to vote for the National GOP delegates.

From what i see, I think we'll have the majority to vote for RP delegates at teh state convention in April.

plh
01-29-2008, 10:46 PM
Actually, I am somebody ;)

Sorry, I can only report for my precinct...and 4 out of 5 of us are Ron Paul supporters. But, we all get to vote for our county and state delegates and ultimately our national convention delegates...which will be Ron Paul Supporters!

It is explained fairly well here:
http://www.ronpaulok.org/delegateimportance.html

Tronchaser
01-29-2008, 10:48 PM
so when do u think we will find out the final results from tonight? think the news will talk about them?

Guys, you are thinking about this all wrong... there will be no final number from the precinct meetings tonight. The numbers you are seeing are just from individual precincts who decided to do an informal straw poll. In my location, there were about ~20 precincts meeting. We did not conduct a straw poll. All we did was decide on delegates to the county convention, and other GOP business, like resolutions to be considered at the county level.


Please guys, Oklahoma is a Super Tuesday state... you'll see how the masses voted then. Until then, know that Ron Paul Okies have taken their rightful places in the GOP party structure and will continue to work from there!

Thanks!

robert4rp08
01-29-2008, 10:52 PM
Delegates are delegates. Doesn't matter where they come from!

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 11:02 PM
Guys, you are thinking about this all wrong... there will be no final number from the precinct meetings tonight. The numbers you are seeing are just from individual precincts who decided to do an informal straw poll. In my location, there were about ~20 precincts meeting. We did not conduct a straw poll. All we did was decide on delegates to the county convention, and other GOP business, like resolutions to be considered at the county level.


Please guys, Oklahoma is a Super Tuesday state... you'll see how the masses voted then. Until then, know that Ron Paul Okies have taken their rightful places in the GOP party structure and will continue to work from there!

Thanks!


All Tulsa County Precincts were required to hold a straw poll as per the Tulsa County GOP precinct directives.

I think this straw poll will give a very good indication as to what kind of turn out we will see at the various conventions. You are correct in that we have to wait until super tuesday to see how our state turns out. However, in terms of delegates, i am very happy with today's results and we just took a great leap forward in getting some great delegates nominated.

bomybomy
01-29-2008, 11:24 PM
Ha ha....even the Hucksters recognized!

http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=8088&sid=ee3c5a184eb81bb55e6f87989ea175eb

libertarian4321
01-29-2008, 11:34 PM
Ha ha....even the Hucksters recognized!

http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=8088&sid=ee3c5a184eb81bb55e6f87989ea175eb

Looks like some of the other campaigns are finally catching on to the possibility that there may be a brokered convention for the first time in decades- something Ron Paul supporters realized, and planned for, months ago...

Carole
01-29-2008, 11:37 PM
Good luck and take every precaution. Plan for one of those Pro-FamilyProLife type deals like Louisiana. :)

Sounds like you have it together. LEt us know what happens. We love you guys. :)

PimpBlimp
01-29-2008, 11:38 PM
Ha ha....even the Hucksters recognized!

http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=8088&sid=ee3c5a184eb81bb55e6f87989ea175eb

I am glad Huck's Army lacks the infrastructure necessary to utilize the espionage data they are collecting on us.

EricRAlbrecht
01-29-2008, 11:44 PM
Ha ha....even the Hucksters recognized!

http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=8088&sid=ee3c5a184eb81bb55e6f87989ea175eb

That made my day! Thank you!

luvthedoc08
01-29-2008, 11:44 PM
I am glad Huck's Army lacks the infrastructure necessary to utilize the espionage data they are collecting on us.

lol that "crazy thing" called the brokered convention. Those Hucksters are loopy. Fun to hear them worrying about us though.

Jobarra
01-29-2008, 11:47 PM
lol that "crazy thing" called the brokered convention. Those Hucksters are loopy. Fun to hear them worrying about us though.
I keep expecting someone to do a lolcat with "Iz in ur state stealing all ur delegatez" :p

Aggieav8r
01-29-2008, 11:48 PM
I am glad Huck's Army lacks the infrastructure necessary to utilize the espionage data they are collecting on us.

Conservatively, Ron Paul supporters made up 80% of those attending!!!

Huck's Army is right - we are organized, and we are going to stack the county and state conventions. To say that tonight's showing was overwhelming is an understatement - we dominated these early meetings, and will continue to do so!!!!

Don't sweat Florida - the game's not even half over!

nayjevin
01-29-2008, 11:49 PM
Oklahoma has been on it for quite some time now. Good Job guys.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1487/ronpaulsignindonnasyardwf8.jpg

Paul4Prez
01-29-2008, 11:53 PM
Most of Oklahoma precincts meet tonight to elect delegates. Those delegates will (eventually) elect the national delegates. The national delegates are bound to the primary vote that will take place Feb 5th.

Are the delegates legally bound to vote for the primary winner? Is the legal obligation only for the first round of the national convention? What are the legal penalties if a delegate votes differently from the primary results? (Not that a Ron Paul delegate would ever do such a thing, but some other candidate's delegates might try it.)

plh
01-30-2008, 12:07 AM
Are the delegates legally bound to vote for the primary winner? Is the legal obligation only for the first round of the national convention? What are the legal penalties if a delegate votes differently from the primary results? (Not that a Ron Paul delegate would ever do such a thing, but some other candidate's delegates might try it.)

My understanding of it is yes, the national delegates are bound to vote for the primary winner in the state of OK...but they are not bound if the convention becomes brokered.

Interestingly, The GOP Officials at the meeting asked us to start referring to it as an "Open" or "Disputed" Convention.

Joe3113
01-30-2008, 12:14 AM
Get ready for Louisiana-type tactics with this one aswell.

Crickett
01-30-2008, 12:27 AM
I hope so and SURE appreciate the stealth..:)

Crickett
01-30-2008, 12:35 AM
I am so glad he lost to guiliani tonight. I said if huck lost to Julie I would be happy, so I am..but HATED seeing RP last..

Elle
01-30-2008, 12:38 AM
I keep expecting someone to do a lolcat with "Iz in ur state stealing all ur delegatez" :p

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/lspen1969/defaultaspx.jpg

plh
01-30-2008, 12:40 AM
That is awesome lol! thanks for the laugh :)

link88
01-30-2008, 12:46 AM
haha nice lolcat pic!! :)

MikeStanart
01-30-2008, 12:55 AM
Keep on the good Fight; Oklahoma. I lived up there for a year; I kinda wish I was there.

slamhead
01-30-2008, 01:24 AM
My understanding of it is yes, the national delegates are bound to vote for the primary winner in the state of OK...but they are not bound if the convention becomes brokered.

Interestingly, The GOP Officials at the meeting asked us to start referring to it as an "Open" or "Disputed" Convention.

My understanding from way back in civics is this. A delegate is bound to his candidate in the first round of voting. If 50% of the vote is not achieved by any one candidate then it becomes brokered.

runderwo
01-30-2008, 01:30 AM
I talked to plenty of people tonight after the caucuses. Most people dominated their precinct. A few Hucksters showed up but they had to take the alternate-spot "crumbs" tossed to them.

As for myself, I had an uphill fight, walking in alone into a meeting full of mostly older people none of which I knew, with a precinct chair I had never met, walked out with 3 of 4 Ron Paul delegates and on top of that, overthrew the precinct chair after a short speech on my own behalf, in which I openly admitted to being a rEVOLutionary. What a night...

LJHudd
01-30-2008, 08:35 AM
I talked to plenty of people tonight after the caucuses. Most people dominated their precinct. A few Hucksters showed up but they had to take the alternate-spot "crumbs" tossed to them.

As for myself, I had an uphill fight, walking in alone into a meeting full of mostly older people none of which I knew, with a precinct chair I had never met, walked out with 3 of 4 Ron Paul delegates and on top of that, overthrew the precinct chair after a short speech on my own behalf, in which I openly admitted to being a rEVOLutionary. What a night...Good for you! This is the way to get things done! :::applause:::

acptulsa
01-30-2008, 08:50 AM
Are the delegates legally bound to vote for the primary winner? Is the legal obligation only for the first round of the national convention? What are the legal penalties if a delegate votes differently from the primary results? (Not that a Ron Paul delegate would ever do such a thing, but some other candidate's delegates might try it.)

Oklahoma is winner take all and the delegates are legally bound to vote for the Feb. 5 winner--if he's still in the race. If not, the delegates are "released" to represent the best interests of the state.

Huckabee (from our next-door neighbor Arkansas) is big here. I'll be on the phones tonight slamming McCain and Romney, but I don't know if I'll be speaking ill of the Huckster at all...since I doubt he'll be in it to the end.

Oh, and you Oregonians--the best that ever made you cough comes from the Cookson Hills. We're not canvassing there, though--they aren't fond of trespassers!

Sarge
01-30-2008, 09:06 AM
You all make me proud.

Both are sons were born in OK and I graduated from CSU.

acptulsa
01-30-2008, 09:07 AM
Got your back, Sarge!