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ghemminger
01-28-2008, 11:26 AM
She has cancer - and always is going off at family parties how great Hillary is - she spent 30+ years in the public sector...this last time I lost it -

I told her I support Hillary if Ron Paul loses, but for entirley different reasons - I told her SHE would tank the country so fast we would have to do a major overhaul of this country anyways...

Too hArsh?

fuzzybekool
01-28-2008, 11:28 AM
Tell her 20 years of Bush's and Clinton's is enough for our lifetime.

ghemminger
01-28-2008, 11:30 AM
Tell her 20 years of Bush's and Clinton's is enough for our lifetime.

She gets all emotional and like cries when Hillary does well in the debates - maybe a lost cause..

DeepBlu
01-28-2008, 11:31 AM
Why does she support Hillary?

ghemminger
01-28-2008, 11:33 AM
Why does she support Hillary?

Shes a woman and she believes in here agenda

Truth Warrior
01-28-2008, 11:34 AM
Why does she want a 3rd ( unconstitutional ) term for Bubba?

ClayTrainor
01-28-2008, 11:34 AM
She gets all emotional and like cries when Hillary does well in the debates - maybe a lost cause..

yea bro, some causes are lost.

Most Neo-cons, and hardcore hillary supporters can be damn near impossible to convert.

Keep trying tho man. The reason she supports hillary probably has nothing to do with policy or the economy.

Explain to her how the economy is tanking and millions of people will lose their homes and hillary's socialist plans will only cost americans more money.

She alos is not anti-war, and her voting record proves that...

Good luck man,

JMann
01-28-2008, 11:34 AM
Hillary for 8 years, followed by Jeb for 8 years setting up a showdown in 16 years between George P. and Chelsea. What a wonderful time to be alive!

ghemminger
01-28-2008, 11:38 AM
yea bro, some causes are lost.

Most Neo-cons, and hardcore hillary supporters can be damn near impossible to convert.

Keep trying tho man. The reason she supports hillary probably has nothing to do with policy or the economy.

Explain to her how the economy is tanking and millions of people will lose their homes and hillary's socialist plans will only cost americans more money.

She alos is not anti-war, and her voting record proves that...

Good luck man,

I'm relaizing that a lot of poepl ar going to have to get hurt before they wake up -

adam1mc
01-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Tell her this:

The people who are voting in their very first elections -- The 18 - 20 year olds, These people have NEVER known life without a Bush or a Clinton in Office. We have lived with one of these two families in the White House for the last 20 years (or 28 years if you count the 8 where Bush Sr. was VP).

Ask your Aunt if she believes America was founded with the intention of being controlled by monopolistic family names.

Ask her would it serve the Countries best interest to allow one of these same two families to run the Country for another 8 years. This will mark nearly a 1/2 century of power between the Bush and Clinton families.


Also ask your aunt if she supports Bush. The reason I say this is because it is in my opinion that Bush will do everything in his power to ensure Hillary receives the key's to the door. People brush this aside by saying 'oh Bush is Republican and Clinton is Democrat. There is no way he would want her in his chair'. But I want to point out that Old Media often times shows stories about Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton traveling the world together on their 'nation building - peace missions'. The evidence is right before our eyes. These families are friends. So if you Aunt supports Hillary, then she is also supporting the candidate of our great President, George W Bush.

http://files.blog-city.com/files/aa/2370/p/f/4_21_010305_bush_clinton.jpg

http://www.welfarestate.com/unite/bush-clinton/hillary-bush.jpg

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010712/2world.gif

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/m8e7y57b.jpg

ghemminger
01-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Tell her this:

The people who are voting in their very first elections -- The 18 - 20 year olds, These people have NEVER known life without a Bush or a Clinton in Office. We have lived with one of these two families in the White House for the last 20 years (or 28 years if you count the 8 where Bush Sr. was VP).

Ask your Aunt if she believes America was founded with the intention of being controlled by monopolistic family names.

Ask her would it serve the Countries best interest to allow one of these same two families to run the Country for another 8 years. This will mark nearly a 1/2 century of power between the Bush and Clinton families.


Also ask your aunt if she supports Bush. The reason I say this is because it is in my opinion that Bush will do everything in his power to ensure Hillary receives the key's to the door. People brush this aside by saying 'oh Bush is Republican and Clinton is Democrat. There is no way he would want her in his chair'. But I want to point out that Old Media often times shows stories about Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton traveling the world together on their 'nation building - peace missions'. The evidence is right before our eyes. These families are friends. So if you Aunt supports Hillary, then she is also supporting the candidate of our great President, George W Bush.

http://files.blog-city.com/files/aa/2370/p/f/4_21_010305_bush_clinton.jpg

http://www.welfarestate.com/unite/bush-clinton/hillary-bush.jpg

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010712/2world.gif

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper410/stills/m8e7y57b.jpg

Nice - she hates BUSH

JMann
01-28-2008, 01:05 PM
You have to remember that the Republicans have had a Nixon, Dole or Bush on every ticket since 1952, except for 1964.

You can't rule out Jeb on the ticket this year but it is highly unlikely.

JoBurke
01-28-2008, 01:15 PM
She has cancer - and always is going off at family parties how great Hillary is - she spent 30+ years in the public sector...this last time I lost it -

I told her I support Hillary if Ron Paul loses, but for entirley different reasons - I told her SHE would tank the country so fast we would have to do a major overhaul of this country anyways...

Too hArsh?

NOT HARSH! -True!

newmedia4ron
01-28-2008, 01:24 PM
http://www.hillaryproject.com/
http://www.hillcap.org
http://www.peterfpaul.com/

Malakai0
01-28-2008, 01:42 PM
She gets all emotional and like cries when Hillary does well in the debates - maybe a lost cause..

Needless to say =)


A lot of women seem to emotionally and feverently support her, despite knowing literally zero real info about her. Even some men do too =/


I work with this guy who devoutly believes "since women keep the house running, a woman will keep the country running". Ugh

Give me liberty
01-28-2008, 01:49 PM
Shes a woman and she believes in here agenda

tell her she supported the war in the ex Yugoslavia and supported the air force bombing of an innocent nation that didnt do any harm to the usa.


and she supported this type of bombing agaisnt innocent civilians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPuICx7A1g

Warning graphic that video contains a small amount of disturbing results of war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhgwdJldeU
Noam Chomsky About Serbia,

ronpaulmn
01-28-2008, 02:12 PM
Sometimes you'll never convince someone, so it's not worth the effort. But if you want to try, the best way is to ask her what issues are important to her, and ask her what positions on the issues Hillary takes that she likes. Only then can you determine if RP's message meets up with what she might be looking for. Some people are just for government controlling everything, and think we should be policemen of the world. You'll almost never change their minds.

t_barr
01-28-2008, 02:26 PM
Download all 12 parts of this documentary and show them to her...
That ought to do it!

THE CLINTONS EXPOSED!!! BILL AND HILLARY ARE MURDERS: PART 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2834320478565747142

jake
01-28-2008, 02:30 PM
Dynasty: "a sequence of powerful leaders in the same family "

the Bush/Clintons are practically family

jkm1864
01-28-2008, 02:34 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119941501118966929.html?mod=loomia&loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r3:c0.229856

Easy make her read this article ..... She will be FORCED to buy health insurance under Hillary's plan ..... Go price health insurance these days it will cost You 600+ dollars a month to get a 70 30 plan which means You can't even afford to goto the doctor after You shell out that ammount of cash. I guess its the american dream getting paid to do nothing and thats what its gonna amount to.

Hopeatron
01-28-2008, 02:47 PM
She has cancer - and always is going off at family parties how great Hillary is - she spent 30+ years in the public sector...this last time I lost it -
My view is if you keep yourself informed, having a conservation with her in a crowd is an opportunity for others around you guys to look into Ron Paul.

Most people aren't going to leave the establishment in one big step. There's an education process that needs to take place, and maybe through conversation, you can use a major issue in comparing & contrasting Hillary & Ron. No need to get overly emotional, defensive, or worst of all, plain rude. Character counts & patience is a virtue.

For example, I might explain how the economy & war are tied together. That we can't fix the economy w/o resolving the spending overseas. I'd probably leave out whether or not the war is just in this situation, b/c if you're around Dems, then they don't need convincing. But explaining how Hillary has stated multiple times in debates that she won't promise a pullout, in addition to the fact she didn't vote against the war, should instill doubt in her integrity.

Then offer Ron Paul's position. If you hone these skills, then you'll find people's interest peaking. Also, don't get emotionally invested in every conversation, it'll wear you down.

my2cents

amistybleu
01-28-2008, 02:47 PM
AMERICA was conceived as a FREE REPUBLIC, your freedom to choose has been attacked by the federal government for over 100 years and they will continue to do so until American's say STOP.

Hillary Clinton and her universal health care is nothing short of Socialism (U.S.S.R) and American's must be free to choose for themselves regarding health care, doctors, and treatment options. The only way to bring Heathcare cost down and provide quality care is to return healthcare to the free markets and remove all Government influence.

This is achieved through abolishing the income tax, stop spending Trillions on failed foriegn policies and unconstitutional wars, and repealing Sarbanes/Oxley act, this in it's self would create the path to more jobs for the people, more wealth for the people, along with a booming free interprise healthcare system with lower costs and greater accessability.

Just my 2 cents.

tamor
01-28-2008, 02:54 PM
Think about this view of some older Americans -- women and blacks -- these people have been through the civil rights times, riots and times of strife for rights. I can see them saying "Before I die I want to see a (woman or black) in the White House.