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RonPaulFTFW
01-28-2008, 12:52 AM
I got really sick watching Bill Maher last night. I use to respect him a lot and the issues he talked about, but he's just another layer of bullshit. I thought he brought a lot of truth to the news but really it's not much better than the main stream media.

He sits there with his panel bitching about the war, and the government, and the democrats doing nothing............yet he doesn't support the true anti-war candidates like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. He even makes fun of Kucinich.

He did give Ron Paul some time last year... but now when it matters... and Paul needs coverage...
maher's dead quiet about what's going on. That RP got second in Nevada and has been beating the ghoul.

Nothing.

I don't know.

LandonCook
01-28-2008, 12:54 AM
He is just a strong democrat... his loyalty is to his party...

ClayTrainor
01-28-2008, 12:56 AM
I know it's so weird. He even said that Ron Paul is his hero. I think he also said he'd vote for him over any other republican candidate on CNN once.

And now, he shuts up about him completely, and never mentions him as if he's just another media shill.

I don't get it. Maybe someone from bilderberg or some other company or agency held a gun to his head and said "mention ron paul again and die" lol.

Im not a conspiracy theorist really... but some of the silence going on in the media is very strange, and i wouldnt be surprised if threats have been made in certain places...

Anyone know when the last time bill maher mentioned ron paul was?

Karsten
01-28-2008, 01:01 AM
He is just a strong democrat... his loyalty is to his party...

Not sure about that... according to his wikipedia entry, he voted for Dole in 1996 and Nader in 2000. Plus he was briefly pro-war in 2005, after the Iraqi elections. He's just a confused, unpredictable person.

StateofTrance
01-28-2008, 01:03 AM
Not mentioning about Ron Paul = automatically considered a shill?

Stop being so fanatic.

Marc3579
01-28-2008, 01:05 AM
He's unpredictable, as for him not covering Ron Paul...I'm not real sure to be honest, I haven't ever really watched much of what he has to say.

andy mcdee
01-28-2008, 01:05 AM
well he called the current democrats cowards. why not send him an email? without his writers he needs to have a lot of interviews instead, so ask if he would like to have Ron on prior to super Tuesday.

BreakYourChains
01-28-2008, 01:06 AM
Any of those talk show host (and I include all current news programs in this category sadly) guys have to jump for their masters to continue to get their salaries, time slots and perks, etc. He was thrown off his show after 9/11, remember? He has learned to play the game. He is not our friend. He is just another tool.

RonPaulMTV
01-28-2008, 01:07 AM
His show has become insipid, and it pisses me off when he explicitly says NO ONE is saying the things he is ... when in fact he's regurgitating things Ron Paul has said ages ago.

RonPaulFTFW
01-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Not mentioning about Ron Paul = automatically considered a shill?

Stop being so fanatic.

Well if he isn't mentioning him he isn't doing his homework.

or he's a shill.

so which is worse?

RonPaulFTFW
01-28-2008, 01:08 AM
well he called the current democrats cowards. why not send him an email? without his writers he needs to have a lot of interviews instead, so ask if he would like to have Ron on prior to super Tuesday.

but that's my point.
he can call the cowards every show... but that's as far as he'll go.

if he really cared he'd advocate people jumping ship and going to a real anti-war candidate.

DeadWolfe
01-28-2008, 01:12 AM
He always seemed to me to be a very angry man who was mostly interested in furthering the Republican/Democrat divide, rather than actually helping anything.

RonPaulFTFW
01-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Well i've always been a big fan. He was the place I first learned of Ron Paul. I never saw him making the divide bigger so much as calling everybody out on their shit.

But that's all he does. He does only seem to want to futher his own issues and comedy career instead of pushing people to think differently.

Which is what separates a great comic (Bruce and Carlin) to a regular media head like Maher.

RonPaulMTV
01-28-2008, 01:17 AM
He always seemed to me to be a very angry man who was mostly interested in furthering the Republican/Democrat divide, rather than actually helping anything.

He's a lightweight thinker, he wants to put everything into his one-liner boxes, and has no real respect for nuance. I used to enjoy his show until I started following RP ... then I saw how Maher barely scratches the surface. Also, he has a childish view on religion and insists on confusing the spoiled religious institutions for the actual thing.

RonPaulFTFW
01-28-2008, 01:19 AM
He's a lightweight thinker, he wants to put everything into his one-liner boxes, and has no real respect for nuance. I used to enjoy his show until I started following RP ... then I saw how Maher barely scratches the surface. Also, he has a childish view on religion and insists on confusing the spoiled religious institutions for the actual thing.

I agree with what he says on relgion 90 percent of the time.......but I also agree he pushes the subject too much when it's not really called for.

I know he has a documentary coming up about it and maybe he wants to be seen as a big guru on it but...........There are more important things to talk about in the here and now.

RonPaulMTV
01-28-2008, 01:25 AM
I agree with what he says on relgion 90 percent of the time.......but I also agree he pushes the subject too much when it's not really called for.

I know he has a documentary coming up about it and maybe he wants to be seen as a big guru on it but...........There are more important things to talk about in the here and now.

I know what you mean. I also agree when he calls "pseudo-religious" people out on their bullshit, but my objection is with his lack of discrimination between sincere exploration and dogmatic ignorance.

AntiAmero
01-28-2008, 02:19 AM
I was watching Mr. Marr and I'm really sick and tired of listening to all the panel guests talk about the same issue's over and over and never mentioning Ron Paul and how he has an answer for all the issues they have. It's a shame! So many blind and so many deaf to the message of the Constitution!

Gimme Some Truth
01-28-2008, 02:38 AM
He is just a strong democrat... his loyalty is to his party...

I thought he was a libertarian?

the Winner is (R0N P@uL)
01-28-2008, 02:59 AM
Bill Maher was in Ron Paul's Court until the Big Boys came and had a "little talk" with him. Ever since his "little talk" he's been a good boy. Don't forget Maher got kicked off the Networks for speaking out against "them". He doesn't want to lose his show now. What a SUCK UP........

devil21
01-28-2008, 03:08 AM
He doesnt have any writers (like Stewart and Colbert) so he can only talk about what his handlers tell him he can talk about. I like Bill but I do wish he would push RP more. But he still gets paid by HBO. Who owns HBO? Time Warner. The largest media company in the world.

EDIT: this link is 10 years old but still explains it all : http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

brandon13830
01-28-2008, 03:36 AM
I thought he was a libertarian?

He thought he was too until he found out about Ron Paul.

pendragon
01-28-2008, 04:04 AM
Any of those talk show host (and I include all current news programs in this category sadly) guys have to jump for their masters to continue to get their salaries, time slots and perks, etc. He was thrown off his show after 9/11, remember? He has learned to play the game. He is not our friend. He is just another tool.
ditto
he dances to a tune called by others - a slave to his masters he is - and TV Americans gobble at his spoon

do people still show up in his studio audience asking him why he never speaks of 9/11 anymore? or do goons keep them out better now?

JenHarris
01-28-2008, 07:35 AM
Bill Maher was in Ron Paul's Court until the Big Boys came and had a "little talk" with him. Ever since his "little talk" he's been a good boy. Don't forget Maher got kicked off the Networks for speaking out against "them". He doesn't want to lose his show now. What a SUCK UP........

And you have evidence of this?

I didn't think so.

I actually think all the people here who went insane as if Bill had endorsed Ron Paul then made 8 billion YouTubes of it probably turned him off from talking about him.