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ItsTime
01-27-2008, 07:53 PM
I am looking for a new hobby. I use to shoot when I was in boy scouts. But I never had a gun of my own. I am looking for a "good" lower end shotgun semi auto 12 gauge would be nice. I do not want to spend over 1k I wont be hunting or anything just want to unload on targets.

Should I buy something used or go new? Any suggestions on make and models? (yes I will be taking courses in gun safety)

Thanks :D

Cowlesy
01-27-2008, 08:13 PM
Every person on here will give you a different answer or have some issue with someone else's choice.

My first turkey gun was a pump-action Remington 870 12gauge. I blasted several turkeys with it, but upgraded to a semi-auto Remington 1100 (used) and have blasted even more turkeys.

I've never had a problem with either of them. I'd recommend a used one, and not be afraid if they have some dings in the wood as they inevitably occur if you're out hunting. Not sure what they run new anymore as I've changed to Berettas and a H&H, but they should be affordable and last a lifetime if you give them a little TLC from time-to-time.

For rabbits/small game in heavy brush areas, I use a 20gauge 1100 special-field model (straight stock) --- it's nothing special but it gets the job done.

TexMac
01-27-2008, 08:22 PM
semi-auto Remington 1100

That's a good shotgun. ItsTime, just get someone you trust to go buy it with you. Some nice 12 gauge, and you won't get anywhere near 1k for a decent bluerock shooting gun.

Man from La Mancha
01-27-2008, 08:36 PM
The Magnificent Mossberg
Solid, reliable and hard-hitting, the 590 soldiers used in Iraq

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/long_guns/mossir_033007/

http://www.saiga-12.com/

http://forum.saiga-12.com/style_images/1/Saiga.gif
.

ItsTime
01-27-2008, 08:46 PM
woo nice! Ok stupid question.. Like I said this is my first gun, dont know anything about guns. I am assuming the mag is reloadable and I do not need to shell out 60 bucks every 10 rounds.

I am a total nooooooob when it comes to guns sorry. :eek:


The Magnificent Mossberg
Solid, reliable and hard-hitting, the 590 soldiers used in Iraq

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/long_guns/mossir_033007/

http://www.saiga-12.com/

http://forum.saiga-12.com/style_images/1/Saiga.gif
.

attackkatt
01-27-2008, 08:51 PM
Get an AR15 so when the S%$T hits the fan you will be able to find NATO rounds everywere.:D

youngbuck
01-28-2008, 04:55 AM
I really want to get a Saiga with AK furniture on it like that one you posted.

youngbuck
01-28-2008, 04:57 AM
Check out Remington 870, Winchester 1300, and Mossberg 590 and 500. All well priced, but pump-action. For a semi auto under 1k, I'd get the Saiga. If you wanna go over 1k, you got the Benelli M4.

ItsTime
01-29-2008, 07:30 PM
could someone answer my question about the mags. are they reloadable? or do I need to buy 1000 mags?

Matt Collins
01-29-2008, 08:04 PM
I use to shoot when I was in boy scouts. But I never had a gun of my own. Eagle Scout here....

Let's just say that the first thing you should do before you buy is to take a gun safety/shooting/owners/carry course. Since you have lethal force at your fingertips you should really be very comfortable with it and know how to use it PROPERLY.

ClockwiseSpark
01-29-2008, 08:15 PM
could someone answer my question about the mags. are they reloadable? or do I need to buy 1000 mags?

They are reloadable, yes.

I suggest you go to your local sporting goods store and have a look. That will give you a good idea of prices and perhaps help you make your choice.

Jim_Karr
01-29-2008, 10:14 PM
After hunting season is the best time to find guns cheap. Look in your trader mag or news paper or ask around in bars. No paper work needed for purchase. You can pick up semi shotguns for 200$ or cheaper. A shotgun with a clip would be the way to go along with a semi rifle and a 45 or larger pistol. You can buy all 3 for 1000$ if you look around for bargains.
You better get your rifle first before hillary gets in office. When the assault ban was on,those guns prices sky rocketed along with the ammo. Use to be 100$ for a 1000 rnds and now about 200$.

exomniac
01-29-2008, 10:19 PM
I just picked up a used mossberg 500 for 180 clams. Nice, reliable pump action 12 ga. Like mentioned before, your safety class will go through the ins and outs of firearms and you should come out of the class with a better idea of what is best for you. For me, its my underfolding yugoslavian ak-47.

youngbuck
01-29-2008, 11:30 PM
A .22 LR is probably the best gun to get for your first. The ammo is cheap, so you'll be able to practice enough to become a proficient marksman. Once you got things like trigger and breathing control down, then you can move up to whatever cartridges you want.

pickdog
01-31-2008, 08:22 PM
first of all for 1k. you could buy a mossberg 500 and a ak-74 or cetme and some treats and ammo to feed them. when the SHTF you are going to want a long gun..

tod evans
01-31-2008, 08:27 PM
any name brand pump action 12ga and a simple lever or mauser action open sighted centerfire.
buy both used and get ammo for both and practice!

Dave39168
02-04-2008, 11:58 PM
A .22 LR is probably the best gun to get for your first. The ammo is cheap, so you'll be able to practice enough to become a proficient marksman. Once you got things like trigger and breathing control down, then you can move up to whatever cartridges you want.

This is true. Go with a .22 to learn marksmanship. if your budget is 1k you can get a nice .22, run thousands of rounds through it. And then still have plenty money to decide what your next gun will be.

krott5333
02-05-2008, 12:54 AM
im sure its been said, but mossy 500 or 835, or a remi 870

GoDrNo
02-05-2008, 01:24 AM
The Magnificent Mossberg
Solid, reliable and hard-hitting, the 590 soldiers used in Iraq

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/long_guns/mossir_033007/

http://www.saiga-12.com/

http://forum.saiga-12.com/style_images/1/Saiga.gif
.

Those saiga's are supposed to be fairly nice guns in all calibers, only problem is the mag's are sickly expensive ($35-$45 each). The ones chambered for 7.62x39 don't take standard AK mags.

The Mossberg 590, is the same as the 500, just with a beefed up reciever and action for military use (If I remember correctly).

Meekus
02-05-2008, 08:51 AM
You can get a very nice shotgun for WELL under $1000. The Remington 12ga 870 is a great first choice.

If you are going to be using it for skeet shooting, an 870 pump will not let you down. You may also want to look at a semi-auto shotgun. Not having to pump in between shots will allow you to focus on aiming.

If this is your first gun, as others have said, you may want to take a gun course. As well as think about getting a 22. Those are great because you can hit the range and shoot forever and it wont make you go broke on ammo. 22 ammo is dirt cheap!

Allen72289
02-05-2008, 10:52 AM
Rockefeller started remington, don't buy from that oil tycoon. :mad:

pcosmar
02-05-2008, 11:51 AM
Rockefeller started remington, don't buy from that oil tycoon. :mad:

Do you have a source for that BULLSHIT. :confused:

I swear, there is more ignorant crap spread around here.


. It was founded in 1816 by Eliphalet Remington in Ilion, New York, as E. Remington and Sons. It is the oldest company in the United States which still makes its original product, and is the oldest continuously operating manufacturer in North America. It is the only US company which produces both firearms and ammunition domestically, and is the largest US producer of shotguns and rifles.

chudrockz
02-05-2008, 12:25 PM
I bought my first shotgun last weekend. It's a Winchester 1300 Defender.

I REALLY like the look and feel of it (not very heavy at all). I hope the heck I like shooting it. I'll find out in the next couple of months when Minnesota warms up a bit!

torchbearer
02-05-2008, 12:31 PM
OK, but what would be a cheap but reliable hand-gun with enough power to stop on intruder but at the same time would fit in a poor man's budget?

amy31416
02-05-2008, 12:54 PM
I've settled on the following:

Handgun: S&W .357 Revolver (got it, like it, bought it used)
Shotgun: Mossberg Persuader (haven't bought it yet, will buy soon, it's cheap relatively speaking)
Rifle: No clue what to get, know very little about them.

1000-points-of-fright
02-05-2008, 01:30 PM
OK, but what would be a cheap but reliable hand-gun with enough power to stop on intruder but at the same time would fit in a poor man's budget?

http://www.bersafirearmsusa.com/

krott5333
02-05-2008, 05:26 PM
if this is your first gun, I'd go with a .22

The Ruger 10/22 would be a good and fun choice, and there is plenty of upgrades and knick-knacks you can add on to it.

Allen72289
02-05-2008, 07:00 PM
Do you have a source for that BULLSHIT. :confused:

I swear, there is more ignorant crap spread around here.

:rolleyes: Don't have to use vulgar language.



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D03E0DE1239E333A25754C0A9669D94 6496D6CF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Avery_Rockefeller

Don't wrongfully criticize me for your own nescient comprehension.

torchbearer
02-05-2008, 07:14 PM
if this is your first gun, I'd go with a .22

The Ruger 10/22 would be a good and fun choice, and there is plenty of upgrades and knick-knacks you can add on to it.

The guns I own are at my parent's house.
25-06
and .22 rifle

what i want is an affordable hand gun to keep at my property in the city.

ItsTime
02-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Ill buy a 22 as well. Like you all said cheap ammo for getting use to firing. I fired a gun a lot when I was 12/13 (around when I was a Mormon they like their guns) I am going to pick up the siaga as well. I can get all that for under a k.

Thanks guys!

pcosmar
02-05-2008, 08:02 PM
I called it bullshit, because it IS bullshit.


Don't wrongfully criticize me for your own nescient comprehension.
Check your facts before you spout somebody else's crap.

Percy Avery Rockefeller (1878–1934)
He was born in 1878. Remington was started in 1816. That is 62 years before Rockefeller was born.

Remington began its long history in 1816. Eliphalet Remington II believed he could build a better gun than he could buy.

The Rockefeller's bought into a lot of businesses, But it was not owned or started by them.
Your claim that it was started by Rockefeller is,
A made up lie
A fabrication
False information.
And hence is BULLSHIT.

Allen72289
02-05-2008, 09:36 PM
Point blank is they own a portion of it.

I don't wanna buy from those kinda people.

Secondly, I'll admit I heard it frome somebody and never checked up on.

However, this doesn't matter because they own a portion of company.

They own a portion which isn't sole ownership however, you're money is still dumped into their pockets.






Trolls. :rolleyes: With that kind of attitude you should be voting McCain.

krott5333
02-05-2008, 09:53 PM
The guns I own are at my parent's house.
25-06
and .22 rifle

what i want is an affordable hand gun to keep at my property in the city.


if you're just using it for home protection, and dont plan on shooting it extensively otherwise, I'd go with a revolver.

less maintenance
cheaper
more reliable
not prone to limp-wristing

Ruger, S&W, Taurus, lots of good revolvers out there.

pcosmar
02-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Trolls. With that kind of attitude you should be voting McCain.

Listen, I am not in a good mood with the results tonight.
You posted false information.
This forum and this sub forum especially is full of misleading information.
There are a bunch of kids that only know weapons from what they see in movies and video games. There are folks that are just wakening up to the need, and wish to learn something.
I will not put up with the spread of useless and misleading crap.
This is a topic that needs to be treated with seriousness.

BTW, Remington Arms makes several very good products, and I would recommend them to anyone.

The Rockefeller's own stock or shares of almost everything in this country. You will have a hard time finding anything they don't have a piece of.

It is not a good reason to derail a thread with no relevant input.

Conservative Christian
02-08-2008, 06:13 AM
Check out the Benelli M2 Tactical ComforTech Shotgun:

http://www.bhgunrack.com/images/dynamic/M2_Tactical_RS_CT_FS.jpg

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/specialpurpose.tpl

abruzz0
02-08-2008, 05:58 PM
Infrared beam with the Mossberg pump. Hit his ass with it twice, make him A-town stomp.

kgiese
02-08-2008, 06:05 PM
There are alot of excellent suggestions here. A .22 is a good gun for learners, BB gun, or pellet gun are good guns to start with. Some reasons they are good include: low purchase price, low cost of ammo, and easy to maintain.

I recommend taking a hunters safety course, or other gun safety course. A good friend or relative may also have the skills you seek. There may be a range or gun club in your area. Good luck.