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lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 03:30 PM
Results from previous primaries and caucuses show that having Precinct Leaders effectively doubles the vote for Dr Paul. Efforts to increase the number of Precinct leaders is therefore high value, and desirable. To that end, I propose the following:

Incentivize the Precinct Leaders to not just enrol and do their own work, but to recruit others, as well. There is the basis of this over at the Precinct Leader home page: https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/

They have a Top 10 Leader Board for lauding those that have recruited the most Precinct Leaders, cumulatively.

Let's put that thing on steroids. I am going to start a competition. Weekly, at this point, and focusing on the registration of Precinct Leaders in NEW precincts, to be run until such time as the NEW precincts become few in number, at which time the competition can/may be reverted to adding in MORE Precinct Leaders in each area, thus improving the effectiveness and reducing the workload of each PL.

First up: I can't be the implementer of this. I have some constraints that prevent me from such. But I'm contributing the idea, the plan, some initial legwork, and will pay for some of, and underwrite the entire first week of funding.

I propose a simple competition: whomever registers the MOST NEW Precinct Leaders in NEW PRECINCTS, as provided by the good folk over at https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ wins money. How much?

Well, I will donate $200 to start, but will *underwrite* the first week to the tune of $2000, until such time as we can get a chip-in organized, and taking funds. I propose it be broken down as such:

Place | Prize
1st - $500
2nd - $400
3rd - $300
4th - $200
5th - $100
6th - 10th - $50
11th - 20th - $25

If there isn't enough scatter in between the places for the number of winners, then it will have to be sorted out doing standard placing techiques.

eg. if 1 guy recruited 12 - he gets $500
if 1 guy recruited 10 - he gets $400
if 2 guy recruited 9 each, they get ($300+$200)/2=$250 each.
if 1 guy recruited 8 people, he gets $100
etc.

If 100 people all end up with, say, 4 recruits, then the amount of money on offer should be just evenly split.

I'm not set on either the amount, or the payout ratio. I'm open to suggestion, though what i've suggested seems reasonable, to me. They must be proper registrations, too, not just fluff space-fillers. They must be people that will, at the end of the day, begin to take on the role of ACTIVE Precinct Leader.

We'd have to get the data from the other guys, but they clearly have the data, and could peel it out for us.

We'd need to advertize this:
(1) Amongst the Precinct Leaders. (By forwarding on an email to the Official Campaign guys to forward the email on to them; they won't give the email list (or *shouldn't*)
(2) meetupalliance.com
(3) Other top ron paul sites, eg Daily Paul, Ron Paul Warroom, The Paulunteer, etc.
(4) Everywhere else.

Ideally, I'd like for there to be a map (or series thereof) that enables a user to drill down from national level, through, state, and county, to be able to see the precincts all marked out, AND OVERLAY THAT with city/road details, so that someone can easily see where the vacancies are, and think "Ah! I know someone who lives there!" Or actually just pick an empty precinct, and then canvass it untill you find someone keen enough to sign on as a Precinct Leader. I'd like for the map to be available to EVERYBODY, even if they are not registered, just so they can easily look at it, and hopefully think "Ah! There's no PL covering Uncle Sam's precinct. I'll phone him up!"

New Precinct Leaders must be as per the official site at https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ That is, it must be by referral email address. Whatever those guys say, goes.

I want to get this up and running ASAP. I want the week to run 12:01am Monday and run through to 12am. Sunday. The first week TO START MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, and run through to NEXT SUNDAY EVENING.

I think a webpage would be in order to explain it all. Obviously, a chip-in, to get everybody else to fill in the remaining $1800. But let's be clear:
I WILL UNDERWRITE THIS, SO THE COMPETITION WILL COMMENCE TONIGHT. We don't need everything operational by tonight. The stats will still be recorded properly within the official campaign. We'll just get those stats later in the week.

I wrote to someone in the official campaign about this, about 12 hours ago, but have not had a response yet. Regardless, we move on.

So, SPREAD THE WORD. THIS IS HAPPENING. If no-one steps forward, I will manage it, but I really would prefer someone else to step up, as I have the constraints I alluded to.

So, comments? Takers?

Star spreading the word if you like. It can be as simple as:

"For the next week, from midnight tonight to midnight next Sunday, a pool of $2000 is up for grabs for the top 20 Precinct Leaders that sign up the most new Precinct Leaders in NEW areas. First Prize is $500; minimum prize is $25. Stay tuned for further details."

MANAGEMENT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO VERIFY NEW PRECINCT LEADERS ARE GENUINE RP-LOVING PL. IF NOT, DEFAULT YOUR SPOT.

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 08:37 PM
C'mon guys! I'm going $2,000 out on a limb here, on a project to double Dr Paul's vote. And its not even worth a reply?

pinkmandy
01-27-2008, 08:39 PM
I think it's a great idea! :)

sharpsteve2003
01-27-2008, 08:43 PM
I've recruited 16 so far, but I guess that wouldn't count towards this, or would it?

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 08:46 PM
Sorry, it can't be applied retroactively. This is meant to incentivize current and future actions.

Sey.Naci
01-27-2008, 08:50 PM
I propose a simple competition: whomever registers the MOST NEW Precinct Leaders, as provided by the good folk over at https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ wins money.Given what you stated above this sentence, do you not need to add "in NEW precincts," a qualification I agree with until more precincts get at least one PL.

mexicanpizza
01-27-2008, 08:52 PM
It's pretty easy to get some friends to sign up to win some money.

It's not easy to actually get up and do something.

It will be abused. Good thought though.

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Argghh! Perhaps I didn't word it clearly. I'm after NEW PRECINCTS to be covered initially, not just having more new PRECINCT LEADERS. My bad. I want the geographical spread first. Then, when we've got that, we can change it, to fill out the geographical areas with more PLs per precinct.

ItsTime
01-27-2008, 08:56 PM
I help start operation front door, that had people go to over 300k doors before the campaign started this, can I have a couple of K? haha jk! come on people lets get this going!

Sey.Naci
01-27-2008, 08:58 PM
Argghh! Perhaps I didn't word it clearly. I'm after NEW PRECINCTS to be covered initially, not just having more new PRECINCT LEADERS. My bad. I want the geographical spread first. Then, when we've got that, we can change it, to fill out the geographical areas with more PLs per precinct.That's what I thought and I agree. Mexicanpizza has a point, though; people may sign up just to get the money and end up doing not a lick of work. So your proposal may backfire. We want people dedicated enough to sign up without further incentive.

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 08:58 PM
It's pretty easy to get some friends to sign up to win some money.

It's not easy to actually get up and do something.

It will be abused. Good thought though.

Point taken. Perhaps the money should be tentatively awarded, but held in trust somewhere for a couple of weeks, awaiting confirmation from other PLs, or people on the ground, that the PL is working. How about a new rule: And that new PL must have signed on RP supporters. Or two new PLs?

I'm open to suggestion folks!

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 10:32 PM
Still looking for help in running this project...

I have other projects I'm working on, and this is too much. I'm stepping up with funding, though, so it WILL happen.

jake
01-27-2008, 10:34 PM
there must be some way to verify they have actually been canvassing ..

amy31416
01-27-2008, 10:39 PM
Could I donate somewhere to make the prize larger?

jblosser
01-27-2008, 10:40 PM
I don't know how you plan to track it but be aware their leader board doesn't work right. On my profile page it says I've recruited like 50 people, which would be enough to be on the leaderboard, but I'm not there. I don't care really, just noting it if it's relevant to your project.

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 10:49 PM
Could I donate somewhere to make the prize larger?

I'm looking for someone to take the project on. When I find that person, we'll get a web page, and a chip-in happening, and would be seeking chip-ins at that point. Stay tuned, and thanks for your interest.

cputter
01-27-2008, 10:49 PM
Why so much money?

Make it just $500 per week, all to the top recruiter adding new precincts. That should be more then enough incentive...

Though if you can afford $2000 a week, so be it.

For legitimacy, every new captain has to add one new precinct before the original winner gets the cash (maybe only a week or two later).

just my 2 cents...

lastnymleft
01-27-2008, 10:50 PM
I don't know how you plan to track it but be aware their leader board doesn't work right. On my profile page it says I've recruited like 50 people, which would be enough to be on the leaderboard, but I'm not there. I don't care really, just noting it if it's relevant to your project.

I'm not just going to rely on the Leader Board. I'm going to get the figures direct from the person managing that end over at the official campaign. I've sent an email, but am awaiting response from there. I can't see them not coming to the party though.

lastnymleft
01-28-2008, 09:14 PM
I have spoken to the tech guy at the Official campain responsible for the Prencinct Leader program. We can make this work, but I need someone tech-oriented from the grassroots side to step up, and help with the data aspects. Specifically, how we are going to link with their data, to be able to work out the number of new Precinct Leaders and Precincts covered, etc.

Who will offer to help with this vital project?

Mark
01-29-2008, 10:10 AM
bump!

Royksopp
01-29-2008, 10:11 AM
awesome idea.

spread the word.

qwerty
01-29-2008, 10:15 AM
Awesome!


:D

obrienmd
01-29-2008, 10:18 AM
I'd be happy to chip in to this!

lastnymleft
01-29-2008, 12:32 PM
I'm still looking for someone a bit tech-savvy to step up to liaise with the Campaign's tech guy, to make sure that the right data is pulled out to give us the metrics. Who will step up?

Mark
01-29-2008, 08:02 PM
I'm still looking for someone a bit tech-savvy to step up to liaise with the Campaign's tech guy, to make sure that the right data is pulled out to give us the metrics. Who will step up?

Calling a database specialist.

lastnymleft
01-31-2008, 02:39 PM
Still in need of someone technically capable of liaising with the Official Campaign's tech guy to handle prize determinations, etc. And to put up a web page, etc. Anyone?

C'mon folks, this is a good project with lots of high value returns for Dr Paul's campaign if we get it going.