A part of the EU const. that caught my eye

[Agent CSL]

This is my first time.... so be gentle, please. :p First time reading the EU "constitution" anyway. The whole thing seems to be geared towards a society of robots, nonetheless. Part III, The Union's policies, seem absolutely direct towards building a massive army of skilled workers. This part caught my eye:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7494/euconst1wb0.png

That whole part there seems to suggest something of a brainwashing. "facilitate adaption to industrial change,"

What I read also seems to be in favor of removing free speech and going towards a communist approach to jobs. If this be a model for the coming NAU, I think we should work faster.

Please share with me your thoughts and resources of the EU.

[CurtisLow]

society of robots

army of skilled workers

I think you hit the nail on the head! I'm Sure that's what (they) want. Slowly brain wash everone with there BS. Turn off your TVs! Just say no!

[IcyPeaceMaker]

The EU was formed AGAINST the votes of the people affected. That alone should be a call to arms. Our country has been drifting toward communism for decades, and it has been reflected in the courthouses, the congress and especially of late in the WH.

There is a conglomerate of bankers who's desire it is to enslave humanity, which is ultimately not in their best interests, since work ethic and productivity would ebb dramatically, just as it did in socialist/communist Russia.

The American spirit has been thrown away by the left, and the right has continued it's drift to the left to promote the CFR. Ron Paul is viewed as a pariha because of his American fundementalist views of freedom and small government.

Those of us who see the trend are in the minority, and the system is doing it's best to crush any dissent. That alone should rock people to their very foundation and make them rise up in righteous fury...........but, they aren't paying attention and they've been liberalized by the edu system, an integral part of the system's plan.

Just talking this way can have me declared a radical extremist and branded a conspiracy theorist. The real problem is that the conspiracy exists and it's too horrible for the average intellect to grasp.

[Moxxar]

yup.. I live in the European Union and it's a monstrosity. And it has basically come about against the wishes of the populace. In 2005 my country rejected in in a referendum. What happens two years later? The politicians refuse to hold a referendum on the document which is 99% the same as the original one claiming it's way different and the people shouldn't have a say. As of 13 december last year my countries sovereignty is officially gone and the mood here is pretty apathetic... No matter who you vote into office...you get the same results.

Even I, being quite politically active, have quit my party and turned apathetic...just dunno what to do. So you guys have to win in the States. It will give me a place to move to. :)

[Crickett]

yup.. I live in the European Union and it's a monstrosity. And it has basically come about against the wishes of the populace. In 2005 my country rejected in in a referendum. What happens two years later? The politicians refuse to hold a referendum on the document which is 99% the same as the original one claiming it's way different and the people shouldn't have a say. As of 13 december last year my countries sovereignty is officially gone and the mood here is pretty apathetic... No matter who you vote into office...you get the same results.

Even I, being quite politically active, have quit my party and turned apathetic...just dunno what to do. So you guys have to win in the States. It will give me a place to move to. :)

OMG...

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[emk]

That's just one small part of the EU constitution and needs to be interpreted alongside the other articles.

[bucfish]

We MUST Win for I will never give my mind to a collectivist society. I hope everyone realizes the importance of Ron Paul winning. If we do not the consequences are grave for us ALL.

[Carl Corey]

This is my first time.... so be gentle, please. :p First time reading the EU "constitution" anyway. The whole thing seems to be geared towards a society of robots, nonetheless.

It seems like the basis for government sponsored technical education programs. I'm clueless why it needs to be in the "European constitution" but I guess that's what Europe wants, socialism embedded in the constitution.

I'm not going to pass a value judgment, the EU has a stronger economy than the US.

[IcyPeaceMaker]

It seems like the basis for government sponsored technical education programs. I'm clueless why it needs to be in the "European constitution" but I guess that's what Europe wants, socialism embedded in the constitution.

I'm not going to pass a value judgment, the EU has a stronger economy than the US.

Education is how they are destroying the American ideals and independence of thought. Political correctness is the vehicle.

[Dr.3D]

What do you expect from government controlled education? They make you take a lot of courses you don't need while charging you a lot of extra money for courses they want you to have. The courses are said to make you a well rounded individual while in fact they make you into a robot programmed with the information they want you to have.

And now the with economy the way it is, they stress education. Duh... just let them educate you into a robot they control. I've seen a lot of educated people who just regurgitate what they were told in school. Seems like none of them are able to think for themselves after they graduate.

They come up with such fixed things as the laws of physics. While we all know those laws are only relative to what we know at this time.

I remember when an inert gas was called such because they couldn't get other elements to react with them. Now they call them noble gases because they found some of them can be reacted with other elements under the correct set of circumstances.

Now think a little about the law of conservation of matter and energy. I remember it well, they said no matter can be created or destroyed nor can energy be created or destroyed.
Now... they say the same thing but add... under normal circumstances.

What are they going to have to add to the other laws when they later find there are exceptions to them?

[IcyPeaceMaker]

These people (globalists) are trying to tinker with the most dangerous and unpredictable element in the universe: The nature of man.

Emotions and motivations are impossible to quantify. When you think of their ultimate goal of enslaving mankind, they are in over their heads. Mankind will eventually rise up and destroy every memory of them and their empire. (I hope I am not just wishfully thinking here)

They seem to have it all their way right now, rigged elections, MSM misinformation, military, money, etc., but many of us would rather offer ourselves on the alter of freedom than endure the generosity from those who've enslaved us for our own good.

[Naraku]

That's just one small part of the EU constitution and needs to be interpreted alongside the other articles.

Exactly. We should also remember that this has to be taken in light of the Charter of Fundamental Rights, which holds the same legal value as the Treaties. For instance, we must consider the following from Article 52:


Any limitation on the exercise of the rights and freedoms recognised by this Charter must be provided for by law and respect the essence of those rights and freedoms. Subject to the principle of proportionality, limitations may be made only if they are necessary and genuinely meet objectives of general interest recognised by the Union or the need to protect the rights and freedoms of others.

See, these rights can only be limited if the Union considers it to be in their interest. So take that euroskeptics. The EU does respect freedom, as long as it's in their interests. :p

[Agent CSL]

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0%2C%2C2247642%2C00.html

I see the future @_@

[devil21]

I saw the quick blip on the news that Tony Blair is going to run for President of the EU and once that election is held, Europe will formally no longer be a continent of sovereign nations but one nation with one president.

And people in the US still scoff at the NAU while it's happening right before our eyes in Europe.