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Bradley in DC
08-02-2007, 10:13 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/goldwater_is_to_reagan_as_ron.html

August 03, 2007
Goldwater is to Reagan as Ron Paul is to...
By Gregory Scoblete
In politics, ideas frequently spread like viruses. Even if their host succumbs, the ideas that animated them can survive to infect the body politic. Such was the certainly case with Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. In the era of the Great Society, his limited government views were resoundingly rejected by the electorate in his 1964 presidential bid. Yet those same ideas eventually culminated in a very contagious outbreak - the Reagan revolution -16 years later.

Will there be a similar legacy for Texas congressman Ron Paul? Yes, Paul's platform differs greatly from Goldwater's and Paul is even more of a long shot than was Goldwater in winning the nomination, which was half of Goldwater's great achievement, but we know one element of the comparison is already apt: Paul will not be President of the United States. But just as Goldwater's limited government creed found a receptive public years later, one theme of Paul's campaign will, with time, also carry the day: his embrace of non-interventionism.


Though he has garnered considerable Internet enthusiasm, Paul trails in all the major polls. He does not possess the name recognition of a Giuliani, the personal wealth of a Romney or the fame and establishment enthusiasm of a Thomson. He is derided by many conservative pundits as idiosyncratic, or worse, a paranoiac.

Yet, unlike the rest of the field, Paul possess a compelling foreign policy message of humility and restraint in the exercise of U.S. power. To say that such a message is unpopular, especially with the contemporary GOP, is an understatement. But it is a message increasingly vindicated by events and by the strategic realities of the post Cold War world.

During the May 15 debate in South Carolina, Paul wondered how Republicans were able to capture the presidency in 2000. "We talked about a humble foreign policy," he said. "No nation-building; don't police the world." Paul, alone among GOP contenders, opposed the invasion of Iraq and has been a critic of the enterprise ever since.

Such restraint does not sit well with many conservatives intent on seizing what columnist Charles Krauthammer dubbed the "unipolar moment" of American ascendancy in a world without the Soviet Union. To them, only the maximalist goals espoused by President Bush in his second inaugural address are worthy of America. Neoconservative champions of an "American Empire" such as Council on Foreign Relations scholar Max Boot chafe at the notion that there are, or should be, limits to American power or that the American interest should be defined as anything less than a globe-spanning, benevolent imperium. Unfazed by our inability to pacify Iraq, neoconservatives like Norman Podhoretz (recently named as an advisor to the Giuliani campaign) are now agitating to expand the war into Iran.

Nor does Paul's parsimony sit well with Democrats and liberals, whose predilection to use military force seems to increase as the relevancy of the mission to U.S. security decreases. Supposedly aghast by the civil war in Iraq, Democratic statesmen like Delaware Senator Joseph Biden want to insert the U.S. into Sudan. If you blanched at the President's Second Inaugural, which pledged to erase tyranny from the pages of human memory, you won't find much comfort in Barack Obama's barely-less expansive formulation of America's interests in Foreign Affairs.

Against such an overwhelming tide of grandiosity and hubris, it sounds farcical to suggest that non-interventionism will some day sway voters and find eventual electoral success. But it will.

First though, it's important to distinguish non-interventionism from isolationism. The former seeks a more rigorous and delimited definition of America's interests, while the latter a walled garden that completely cuts America off from the world. Non-interventionists are not pacifists, but they do reserve war fighting for moments of actual national peril. (Paul, for instance, voted to authorize war in Afghanistan in 2001.) They do not view the military as an instrument of social policy. If war is to be fought, non-interventionists demand a Congressional declaration of war to ensure that the conflict is one in which the nation's resources are fully brought to bear.

Unlike isolationists, non-interventionists do not fear expanding and liberalizing trade (Paul has frequently said as much). Non-interventionists are confident in American strength and, unlike isolationists, are optimistic about America's engagement with the world. What they do not seek, however, is dominion over it. Non-interventionists trust that Western values are persuasive on their own terms, and become correspondingly less so when they are imposed on societies at gunpoint. Finally, non-interventionists tend to possess a truly conservative skepticism about government and the malleability of human nature. They do not believe America should squander its blood and treasure as it pursues utopian schemes like "ridding the world of evil."

The precise content of Paul's campaign platform won't be adopted, even many years down the road. With calls to withdraw from NATO and the UN, it's far too radical. Yet the contours of his non-interventionist approach to foreign policy will ultimately win the day. For starters, thank President Bush. The invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq have exposed and discredited a number of dubious theories endorsed by the war's advocates. It reminded us that the proper role of a military is to destroy states, not coax democratic ones from the rubble. Yet it also underscored that even if we were adept nation builders, an "American Empire" won't protect us. Unraveled terror plots in the U.S. and Europe discredit the notion that "freedom is the antidote to terror" or that we must "fight them over there so they don't come over here."

When the Bush administration leaves office, it also will leave a list of serious foreign policy failures. The administration will pass off a military vastly weaker than the one it inherited and larger nuclear programs in North Korea and Iran. On the singular issue of Islamic terrorism, the record is largely abysmal. President Bush inherited one jihadist safe haven in a relatively weak state, Afghanistan. He will leave office with two safe havens: one in nuclear-armed Pakistan, the other in Iraq -- in the heart of the oil-rich, increasingly unstable Middle East. Far from discredited and marginalized, our intelligence services warn that the ideology of radical Islam is enflamed. As the coup-de-grace, the administration is proposing to shower billions of dollars worth of advanced weaponry on the very Sunni autocrats responsible for whipping up the jihadist frenzy.

There will be a great incentive among politicians and policymakers to put a good deal of distance between themselves and this record. (Bush's basement level approval ratings don't help either.) But there is a deeper reason why non-interventionism will find more fertile soil years hence. America's current global commitments reflect antiquated, Cold War-era priorities that will only become more untenable as time passes.

During that conflict, we subsidized the defense of the free world to deter Soviet adventurism and to allow the battered nations of World War II to focus resources on reconstruction. We undertook an interventionist foreign policy (in Korea, South East Asia, and the Middle East) to thwart the Kremlin's ambitions.

Well, mission accomplished. Today, American military decampments in Asia and Europe reflect strategic entropy. With the Soviet Union resting comfortably on the ash heap of history, with much of the world free and democratic, there is no serious reason why the U.S. is still defending South Korea, Europe, Taiwan, Israel and the Gulf monarchies. Without exception, these nations possess the economic resources to sustain a modern military capable of meeting their unique security needs.

Paul argues for such a transfer of responsibility. With time, this chorus will grow because there is no threat to the U.S. on par with Soviet communism that necessitates the type of global posture America assumed during the Cold War. True, radical Islam is a serious global menace, but it is not one that will be beaten back with U.S. military bases and defense commitments to autocratic client-states. Indeed, many of the same policies so instrumental in containing communism - the use of proxies, reliance on pliant autocrats and an intrusive military posture - are now the very ones likely to exacerbate the current danger.

And besides, even if the U.S. does not consciously - and conscientiously - shift its policy to reflect this new reality, the retiring baby boomers will force such a change. Anyone with a passing familiarity with the federal budget and demographic trends knows that the U.S. cannot sustain both its mammoth defense budgets and its entitlements as the boomers retire en-masse. When forced to choose, it's difficult to imagine baby boomers will prefer defending billionaire Saudi fundamentalists to Medicare.

Ron Paul's rebuke of America's current Cold War posture will be vindicated, but only when the costs of America's commitments and their irrelevance to U.S. national security become clearer. Until such time, Paul, like Goldwater, will likely pass his time in Congress waiting for America's political class to catch up.

Gregory Scoblete is a freelance writer based in New Jersey.

RedStripe
08-02-2007, 10:16 PM
Nixon is to Reagan as Bush is to..... (Ron Paul)

Larofeticus
08-02-2007, 10:34 PM
what a shame. That it's too much to ask of our nation to make the correct decision now, when it will do the most good. no we have to wait for the error of our ways to intensify to the point that no one no matter how fanatical could ignore it, and the work to fix it is orders of magnitude worse.

Still, i like this emerging trend of articles better than the "ron paul is a kook and will never win" style. This one and the derbyshire article. The new style is "ron paul is a prophet and will never win" One must admit, it's alot of progress. With a few more months we might just get "ron paul is a prophet and will win"

dmitchell
08-02-2007, 10:49 PM
A very nice article. RCP has promoted a few nasty articles on RP, I wonder if this one will last all day?

FreedomLover
08-02-2007, 11:03 PM
All the writers that continue the "he wont win" mantra, as if they are all-knowing political sages who have seen into the future (as opposed to overweight, bespectacled MSM junkies who blog in between bites of a hot pocket), will make RP's victory on election day all the sweeter.

specsaregood
08-02-2007, 11:07 PM
The mistake this author makes in writing RP off is as painting him as a single issue "non-interventionalist". We all know RP is MUCH more than that. Non-intervention is the popular message that sells to the MSM and people tired of the war. But he has brought more people into his camp via the Freedom message and many via his Fiscal policy message.

I'm still amazed when I stumble upon these niche forums/groups on the internet that have latched onto Ron Paul. He is quite simple THE ultimate fringe/niche candidate. He speaks to many people that have felt like they have had a voice in the past.

Scribbler de Stebbing
08-02-2007, 11:13 PM
I argued much the same thing in a debate among friends and posted to my blog (http://onscribblersmind.blogspot.com/):


Recall, if you will, the 1964 GOP nomination battle between liberal New Yorker Rockefeller and the Father of Conservatism, Barry Goldwater. The outcome determined the face of the Republican party for the next few decades. Barry Goldwater spawned the Reagan revolution, as is widely acknowledged.

Before you verbally wring your hands over The Great Society, either Nelson Rockefeller or Barry Goldwater would have lost that year to the sainted memory of JFK. This election is similar in that the nation, rightly or wrongly, is overwhelmingly against the quagmire in Iraq, and the victor will be the nominee who most closely sides with the people on this matter. Assuming the GOP nominee is pro-war -- I assume no such thing, personally -- and the Dem is anti-war, the Dem will win.

So if the GOP must lose, why not do so while advancing the principles of the party and conservatism?

bygone
08-02-2007, 11:30 PM
Well written. America is not ready to look more than a few years down the road it is on, and that is a shame.

dmitchell
08-03-2007, 06:26 AM
Well the story is still there but has been renamed to the much less positive "The GOP, Ron Paul & Non-Interventionism." I thought RCP might pull something like this.

Mister Grieves
08-03-2007, 06:50 AM
Things like this tells me the some in the GOP establishment are really starting to recognize Ron Paul as a serious contender.

When Paul first started picking up steam, every article you read said flat out that Ron Paul will not be president and there was no point kidding yourself and believing otherwise. This only seemed to fuel the fire in regards to RP's support as it made people mad that they were being told by the media who could or could not be elected this far out.

Now, I've noticed a change in tactic and this piece is a prime example. Yes, it still states that Ron Paul will not be president, but says to look at how much good he's done bringing attention to this issue or that. Of course I admire him and would vote for him if he stood a chance, but he doesn't so I'll vote for X or Y. One day someone will be able to blaze down the trail Dr. Paul started for them but it will not be him, so on and so forth. The intent is still to take the wind out of our sails, but just in a more subtle almost parental way. Don't fall for it.

I believe Ron Paul can be elected as president and that the GOP will never make the same mistake in allowing a constitutionalist like Ron Paul get on a national stage in a debate with them again. There will be a more thorough process to ensure people like him are weeded out. I don't think they thought that Paul was going to be as vocal as he was on the issues and stand his ground like he has. I'm also sure the groundswell of support he has gained, in large part due to the internet, came as a surprise.

The only reason I bring this up is because I have heard some of the doubts start to sink in with people I have turned on to Paul and it makes me angry. I am a realist and understand that it will be an uphill battle, but we can and will make a Paul Presidency a reality in 2008.