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malibu
01-26-2008, 04:48 PM
Where do you fit on the political scale? (sorry, full link not working )

100% Libertarian - Complete personal freedom, no government involvement.

90%+ Constitutionalist - Strict adherence to the Constitution. Very limited government involvement. States Rights.

60-80%+ Conservative - Support limited government intrusion in peoples daily lives. Support government to protect lives and the nation against foreign aggression and criminals.

50% Moderate - Opposed to a political direction. Unwilling to support a firm position on most political issues.

30%- Liberal - Government interference in most aspects of a person's life particularly with the economy. Government policy to effect social issues.

20%- Socialist - Government involvement in all aspects of life. Personal freedoms restricted.

10%- Fascist - Government control of people and business. Laws for the benefit of the state.

0% Communist - Total government control over the population. No personal freedom.


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EDIT :
It is a test that I couldn't get to link properly (sorry 'bout that).

Take the test . . .

Points rewarded from 0 to 3 for each of the five questions/positions.


Percentages for each:

Libertarians 15 of 15 = 100%
Constitutionalists 14 of 15 = 87%
Conservatives 9 to 13 of 15 = 60-87%
Moderate 8 of 15 50%
Liberals 5 to 7 of 15 = 33-47%
Socialist 3 or 4 of 15 = 20-27%
Fascist 1 or 2 of 15 = 7-13%
Communists 0 of 15 = 0%


A:
Against ownership of property or businesses 0
Private ownership of property but regulated 1
Private property with few regulations 2
Private ownership of property without government intrusion 3


B:
No free speech 0
Speech with government regulations 1
Free speech with few limits 2
Complete freedom of speech 3


C:
Social issues controlled by government 0
Social engineering by government 1
Social issues influenced by government programs 2
No government involvement in social issues 3


D:
Taxation of most income, confiscatory taxation 0
Taxation for government social programs 1
Taxation limited for essential government use 2
No taxation 3


E:
Government repression of religion or banning of it 0
Government hostile to religion 1
Religious freedom, little influence by government 2
Religious freedom, no government involvement 3

wgadget
01-26-2008, 04:49 PM
conserative

Arklatex
01-26-2008, 04:49 PM
Constitutionalist

RSLudlum
01-26-2008, 04:50 PM
conservative

trey4sports
01-26-2008, 04:51 PM
constitutionalist/libertarian bordering on anarchist......

freedom-maniac
01-26-2008, 04:51 PM
Constitutionalist. (Pro-environment and pro-middleclass)

chowdy
01-26-2008, 04:51 PM
Mostly conservative, but due to changing definitions, I would say libertarian.

WilliamC
01-26-2008, 04:52 PM
Constitutionalist

thomaspaine23
01-26-2008, 04:54 PM
:eek: Communist!!!!


Not really, just couldn't resist....

Classical Liberal (ala Jefferson) so Constitutionalist is probably closest

Johncjackson
01-26-2008, 04:56 PM
I would say the description for Libertarian is actually anarchist.

I am libertarian bordering on anarchist. Ideally the State would not exist.

angrydragon
01-26-2008, 04:57 PM
I don't think libertarian means no government.

Kotin
01-26-2008, 04:57 PM
Constitutionalist/ Ron Paul Conservative

FreestarMediaDotCom
01-26-2008, 05:01 PM
Objectivist

Rhys
01-26-2008, 05:02 PM
constitutionalists

but thats a loaded question the way they're worded... total strawman stuff on everything but constitutionalists

TXcarlosTX
01-26-2008, 05:05 PM
100% sovereign

FreeTraveler
01-26-2008, 05:06 PM
Bogus poll, it's not a straight line, it's a diamond shape. They've been polarizing us with the horizontal line forever. See http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

Arklatex
01-26-2008, 05:06 PM
Texan




... REMEMBER THE ALAMO!

JasonCYST
01-26-2008, 05:07 PM
Call it silly, but I'm ME. I don't affiliate myself with any party. I don't like labels.

Mitt Romneys sideburns
01-26-2008, 05:08 PM
Im somewhere at the far-right end of the conservative end. I usually just call myself a libertarian, but thats not completely accurate.

Funny thing is, the definition of "liberal" falls right in line with the modern day hucksters peddling themselves off as conservatives.

StateofTrance
01-26-2008, 05:08 PM
Call it silly, but I'm ME. I don't affiliate myself with any party. I don't like labels.

+1

I'm ME when it comes to politics
I'm ME when it comes to religion
I'm ME when it comes to anything

Individualism FTW!

LibertyForever
01-26-2008, 05:15 PM
Paleo-Conservative probably between 80 to 90% on there.

exer51
01-26-2008, 05:16 PM
I'm a Conservative-Constitutionalist-Libertarian... or something to that effect.

There are a few minor aspects of libertarianism that I could live without, but 99.9 percent of people would consider me a straight up libertarian. I usually refer to myself as a conservative or constitutionalist since many people think of libertarian as a dirty word for some odd reason. I guess they've been so brainwashed into believing freedom is a bad thing they scowl at the very thought of it.

LibertyForever
01-26-2008, 05:17 PM
That's Paleo-Conservative.

Paleo's are usually constitutionalists with a libertarian lean.

jake
01-26-2008, 05:17 PM
Liberal leaning Libertarian

constitutional
01-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Where do you fit on the political scale? (sorry, full link not working )

100% Libertarian - Complete personal freedom, no government involvement.

90%+ Constitutionalist - Strict adherence to the Constitution. Very limited government involvement. States Rights.

60-80%+ Conservative - Support limited government intrusion in peoples daily lives. Support government to protect lives and the nation against foreign aggression and criminals.

50% Moderate - Opposed to a political direction. Unwilling to support a firm position on most political issues.

30%- Liberal - Government interference in most aspects of a person's life particularly with the economy. Government policy to effect social issues.

20%- Socialist - Government involvement in all aspects of life. Personal freedoms restricted.

10%- Fascist - Government control of people and business. Laws for the benefit of the state.

0% Communist - Total government control over the population. No personal freedom.


I'm a god-damn human!!!

Mitt Romneys sideburns
01-26-2008, 05:19 PM
Call it silly, but I'm ME. I don't affiliate myself with any party. I don't like labels.

You're right. It is silly. There has to be a political ideology that your ideas fall close to.

its like wearing a shoe. Nobody goes into the store asking for a size 10 2/9. You have to pick between a 10 or a 10 1/2. it would sound absolutely silly for you to go in there and say, "well Im neither, Im ME."

TheDHC
01-26-2008, 05:19 PM
liberal for Ron Paul here

Xenophage
01-26-2008, 05:24 PM
The scale you provide is biased and inaccurate by my account.

Liberals are not 30% while Conservatives are 60%. That's absurd. The best scale you can use is one that rates "Economic Liberty" and "Personal Liberty" separately.

Furthermore, Libertarianism is not anarchism. Anarchism, or anarcho-capitalism, is quite different, despite what the anarcho-capitalists here might have to say about that.

I'm a top-diamond libertarian but not at all an anarchist. I take the Randian perspective that government is a necessary evil.

constituent
01-26-2008, 05:36 PM
110%

self-government.

nate895
01-26-2008, 05:38 PM
Constitutionalist.

States' Rights Rock!!!!!!!!!

JoeyA
01-26-2008, 05:39 PM
Went from Neo-conservative over a year ago into the Constitutionalist I am today.

cien750hp
01-26-2008, 05:41 PM
constitutionalist would not mean you don't approve of the government defending the nation..

MsDoodahs
01-26-2008, 05:43 PM
anarchist. :)

piotr1
01-26-2008, 05:46 PM
constitutionalist would not mean you don't approve of the government defending the nation..

Constitutionalist.

I'm down with a militia.

kirkblitz
01-26-2008, 05:46 PM
where the test at

exer51
01-26-2008, 05:48 PM
That's Paleo-Conservative.

Paleo's are usually constitutionalists with a libertarian lean.

Well I use that term as well. Depends on who I'm talking to!

FunkBuddha
01-26-2008, 05:48 PM
I fell off the top end of the Nolan Chart... I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist/Individualist.

762x54r
01-26-2008, 05:50 PM
libertarian/ constitutionalist.

I am personally a very conservative person. I am a radically saved and redeemed Christian and have personal views befitting that description, however, it is my opinion that those who would try to use the power of the state to advance the kingdom of God are making a mistake. The more power the state has over a person the less influence the Church can have in society. Christ was all about freedom. The freedom to choose. A person who is not free to make a bad choice is not really free at all.

JGalt
01-26-2008, 05:53 PM
I would say the description for Libertarian is actually anarchist.

I am libertarian bordering on anarchist. Ideally the State would not exist.

QFE

Same here.

ForrestLayne
01-26-2008, 05:53 PM
Call it silly, but I'm ME. I don't affiliate myself with any party. I don't like labels.

ditto

yongrel
01-26-2008, 05:53 PM
Ur A Libertarian?! That's Just Another Word For Librul!

affa
01-26-2008, 06:15 PM
anarcho-syndicalist.

malibu
01-26-2008, 06:21 PM
The scale you provide is biased and inaccurate by my account.

Liberals are not 30% while Conservatives are 60%. That's absurd. The best scale you can use is one that rates "Economic Liberty" and "Personal Liberty" separately.

Fair enough Xenophage - but it is a test that I couldn't get to link properly (sorry 'bout that).

Take the test . . .

Points rewarded from 0 to 3 for each of the five questions/positions.


Percentages for each:

Libertarians 15 of 15 = 100%
Constitutionalists 14 of 15 = 87%
Conservatives 9 to 13 of 15 = 60-87%
Moderate 8 of 15 50%
Liberals 5 to 7 of 15 = 33-47%
Socialist 3 or 4 of 15 = 20-27%
Fascist 1 or 2 of 15 = 7-13%
Communists 0 of 15 = 0%


A:
Against ownership of property or businesses 0
Private ownership of property but regulated 1
Private property with few regulations 2
Private ownership of property without government intrusion 3


B:
No free speech 0
Speech with government regulations 1
Free speech with few limits 2
Complete freedom of speech 3


C:
Social issues controlled by government 0
Social engineering by government 1
Social issues influenced by government programs 2
No government involvement in social issues 3


D:
Taxation of most income, confiscatory taxation 0
Taxation for government social programs 1
Taxation limited for essential government use 2
No taxation 3


E:
Government repression of religion or banning of it 0
Government hostile to religion 1
Religious freedom, little influence by government 2
Religious freedom, no government involvement 3

johnrocks
01-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Constitutionalist/Libertarian

Carl Corey
01-26-2008, 06:24 PM
I'm a social darwinist, I prefer to leave the squabbling over economic systems to materialists, but I'm alright with libertarianism.

Bradley in DC
01-26-2008, 07:22 PM
Libertarian, but I prefer to think of myself as a "Liberal with Class (http://liberalswithclass.com/)."

nodope0695
01-26-2008, 07:27 PM
90%+ Constitutionalist - Strict adherence to the Constitution. Very limited government involvement. States Rights.

eldeeder
01-26-2008, 07:37 PM
Libertarian or Liberal ?

Don't people understand that a libertarian is probably the most liberal? When did Liberal start getting associated with "Progressive" Clinton IS NOT A LIBERAL, SHE IS A PROGRESSIVE.

30%- Liberal - Government interference in most aspects of a person's life particularly with the economy. Government policy to effect social issues.

That IS NOT LIBERAL. I don't care what people say! I'm a libertarian and extremely liberal. I dont want government involved in my life.

malibu
01-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Libertarian or Liberal ?

Don't people understand that a libertarian is probably the most liberal? When did Liberal start getting associated with "Progressive" Clinton IS NOT A LIBERAL, SHE IS A PROGRESSIVE.

30%- Liberal - Government interference in most aspects of a person's life particularly with the economy. Government policy to effect social issues.

That IS NOT LIBERAL. I don't care what people say! I'm a libertarian and extremely liberal. I dont want government involved in my life.

You should care what people say, because most every other American disagrees with you eldeeder -

Hitler-y Clinton wants government interference to the max - from socialized medicine to her
Clinton-esque pandering for votes with more entitlements. It ain't working out to well fer' her.
(not to mention having Bill in the White House with nothing to do !)

Ron Paul actually addressed the misunderstanding about liberal/libertarian in an early radio interview on April 12, 2007 for Michelson in the Morning - it can be linked at the WHO-AM (Des Moines) radio website.

Liberal and libertarian have a common latin root -
BUT they are nearly opposites really -

30%- Liberal - Government interference in most aspects of a person's life particularly with the economy. Government policy to effect social issues.

Basically what RP refers to as the "nanny-state", full of entitlements.


100% Libertarian - Complete personal freedom, NO government involvement.

This distinction is as misunderstood as the misnomer of using "isolationist" to describe a foreign policy of "non-intervention".

It is the idiot pundits in the media - like Sean (Moe) Hannity, but there sure are alot of 'em - that are dumbing up the electorate.

clintontj72
01-27-2008, 02:48 PM
Minarchist Constitutional Libertarian? :D

westmich4paul
01-27-2008, 10:16 PM
I Am A Ron Paul Republican! Nuff Said!

Delaware
01-27-2008, 10:20 PM
I'd say im conservative/constitutionalist

damoncrowe
01-28-2008, 12:20 AM
Constitutionalist.
I voted Constitution Party in the last two general elections.

atthegates
01-28-2008, 12:22 AM
I Am A Ron Paul Republican! Nuff Said!

QFT