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freedom-maniac
01-26-2008, 01:15 PM
Just wondering if the R3volution is trying to take over the Democratic party as well. I'd hope my fellow Dems would be more than eager to join the cause.

Truth Warrior
01-26-2008, 01:17 PM
Nope! Ron's pretty much one of a kind.<IMHO>

mmink15
01-26-2008, 01:31 PM
My brother and his wife were Democrats until a few months ago. I doubt they will return to that party now that the principles of small limited government have been introduced and adopted. I think that they, and probably myself a former independent, will instead turn to the Constitution or Libertarian parties.
That being said, is there a way for a politician to remain a Democrat and still have limited government and non-interventionist policies?

hueylong
01-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Tougher for a Paul supporter to run in the Democratic Party. While the anti-war stance works well, the view that we should eventually eliminate entitlement programs is generally a big negative for the Democratric primary electorate in most places.

mmink15
01-26-2008, 01:37 PM
I would think that a man like Kucinich could start a similar revolution on the democratic side, but I don't think they will want to associate themselves with what is now the Ron Paul Revolution after the next election is over. I think it would be that the common ground is foreign policy and civil liberties, but many differences still exist. The debate would always exist on what the role of government is, this dual-revolution would lead to a higher level of dialogue and keep the restriction of individual rights to the absolute minimum.

FreeTraveler
01-26-2008, 01:57 PM
There is no such thing as a Ron Paul Democrat. That would be an oxymoron, like Government Intelligence. The Democrat platform supports entitlement programs, and that has always been integral to the party.

Dave Pedersen
01-26-2008, 02:13 PM
Don't all Democrats embrace the idea of re-allocation of wealth from one individual to another by the armed force of the government? I know the Republicans do it too as they have diverged from the Republican ideology but isn't it part and parcel of the Democrat party platform to advocate government as the solution to all people's problems?

Socialism seems to be an official basis upon which the Democrat party creates its planks. Officially and openly. But then I have been excoriated in the past for asking if this is true. So give me a moment to pull my head back into my shell so as to avoid concussion.

How can there be such a thing as a Ron Paul Democrat? The closest thing to that would be Dennis Kucinich who cannot be viewed as similar to Ron Paul since he is a socialist.

freedom-maniac
01-26-2008, 02:34 PM
There is no such thing as a Ron Paul Democrat. That would be an oxymoron, like Government Intelligence. The Democrat platform supports entitlement programs, and that has always been integral to the party.

Let us not forget that Anti-War Republican is a bigger oxymoron.

fmontez
01-26-2008, 02:39 PM
My brother and his wife were Democrats until a few months ago. I doubt they will return to that party now that the principles of small limited government have been introduced and adopted. I think that they, and probably myself a former independent, will instead turn to the Constitution or Libertarian parties.
That being said, is there a way for a politician to remain a Democrat and still have limited government and non-interventionist policies?

Like the European Socialist countires the USA has realized that a Welfare State is not sustainable.

Goldwater Conservative
01-26-2008, 03:00 PM
I imagine the most likely places to see Ron Paul Democrats are in the mountain states. Civil liberties and a humble foreign policy sells well with most Democrats anywhere, but gun rights and federalism are also popular out west.

Sound money is not exactly something they're crazy about, nor is it something they're reflexively opposed to, so once you explain to them how our current monetary policy enables a secret inflation tax on the poor and working class, or how the Federal Reserve is unaccountable to the people, I'm sure many will be on board.

They would probably sound a lot like Ron at the national level, but much less so at the state and local level. Still, fine by me, since most of the problems are with the feds. This is definitely something libertarians should consider if Republican means theocratic warmonger where they're from.

Ogren
01-26-2008, 03:58 PM
My state is bluest of the blue ( Taxachusetts ) If I ran for office it would definetely be as a democrat (just so I can get exposure) but I would stick with the ron paul philosophy.

Flash
01-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Wouldn't JFK be an example of a true Democrat? May be they can return to a JFK-like guy?

JeffSchulman
01-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Frank Gonzales ran as a Democrat in FL-21 and got 41% of the vote in 2006. He's not running this year but looking into his platform and how it appealed to voters in his district should provide valuable insight on how to target uncontested races running on a Jeffersonian Democratic Ticket.

http://www.youtube.com/user/VoteLiberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gonzalez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TgD1AceJfg

freedom-maniac
01-26-2008, 06:36 PM
If Dr. Paul gets people to harken back to the days of the old GOP, maybe some Dems can get people to remember that this is the party of Jefferson and Jackson.

Goldwater Conservative
01-26-2008, 07:03 PM
If Dr. Paul gets people to harken back to the days of the old GOP, maybe some Dems can get people to remember that this is the party of Jefferson and Jackson.

And Grover Cleveland. :)