Announcement: HQ Request $5 Million by Feb. 5

[virginiakid]

What are some way to make this happen? We have the libertytax08 thing going. We need to send this to everybody and just tell them to donate so that we can get that 5 Mil by then. Have to push it.

[virginiakid]

Check the webpage-www.ronpaul2008.com, they say they are going for the gold and need $5 Mil by Feb. 5.

[tpreitzel]

What are some way to make this happen? We have the libertytax08 thing going. We need to send this to everybody and just tell them to donate so that we can get that 5 Mil by then. Have to push it.

Yes, indeed. A money bomb has been proposed for Feb 1st. I suggest we get behind that one NOW! Spread the word. Other ideas can take place after Super Tuesday. We simply do NOT have anymore time to debate the means of fulfilling their request for an additional $5M! None. Zero. Zilch.

[itshappening]

this is a great idea, I suggested this....

[ForrestLayne]

bump

[itshappening]

they're asking for $5m by Feb 5th

not 5m for the quarter... that's very ambitious!

[DirtMcGirt]

perfect.... i love it...

[amy31416]

Check the webpage-www.ronpaul2008.com, they say they are going for the gold and need $5 Mil by Feb. 5.

I see that, we need to make sure we're organized enough to try to make this happen.

I'm currently supporting the anniversary money bomb on 2/1. But I think we're very disorganized these days on the donation thing. Any suggestions?

[FSP-Rebel]

Is Feb 1st the Anniversary bomb?

[tpreitzel]

Is Feb 1st the Anniversary bomb?

Yes.

[coffeewithchess]

Stay positive...let's make it a $10 million money bomb...there is no reason we can't.

[szczebrzeszyn]

I see that, we need to make sure we're organized enough to try to make this happen.

I'm currently supporting the anniversary money bomb on 2/1. But I think we're very disorganized these days on the donation thing. Any suggestions?

Yes, let's just go with one date (be it 2/1, whatever) and forget the rest. This debating and polling about dates takes too much of the precious time. THEME is no-issue.

[tpreitzel]

Yea, well, I'm not to keen on HQ asking for money...they asked for $12 million to win Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina...5th place in all of those states, hmmm.

Do you want Ron to just quit, i.e. drop out of the race, because of the lack of financial support for HQ's campaign?

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

We need to get Trevor to link to the Anniversary bomb or something on Freeatlast2008 and send out an email to make it seem more official--then people will start coalescing around one. Anyone know how to contact him?

[Chibioz]

HQ is more than welcome to set goals! I'm really excited that they have set a new goal!

[specsaregood]

Yea, well, I'm not to keen on HQ asking for money...they asked for $12 million to win Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina...5th place in all of those states, hmmm.

They also had to compete with all the candidates and all their money in those states. THe field is narrowing and it will be easier for his message to get heard if the air is not bombarded with others' ads.

And I have a feeling they will pick and choose the states in which they will do best.

[RobS]

they're asking for $5m by Feb 5th

not 5m for the quarter... that's very ambitious!

It is... coordination all across the grassroots is needed. We don't have time to bicker or fight from within. We have 11 days to make this happen. If we can raise 6.1 in a day, 5 million in a week and a half should be doable.

As much as I love the blimp (I donated to it in the beginning), I think this is where our attention is needed now.

I will get behind what starts getting a lot of support.

[billyjoeallen]

bump.

[devil21]

Anybody have the widget code handy?

[virginiakid]

Personally, everybody just needs to choose one day to donate. but at the same time, we just need to get the word out and ask everybody to donate. I like the anniversary date. Everybody donates $51. Everyday needs to be a money bomb personally. our goal should be to raise at least $500,000 a day.

[AlexMerced]

It's the message people :)

We're paying to keep hope alive, I sure like hope, so I'll be donating

[hellsingfan]

yep its the Feb 1st money bomb, everyone get behind it NOW. Spread the Word, and tell everything this time it is not for the record but for the WHITE HOUSE!!! VERY Important. I can tell they need the money, this stuff costs ALOT. Don't get in the false sense of security that they have a lot of money!

[Pete Kay]

Why do you have to wait for a money bomb? Just send money as soon as you can. It's a race to 5 million. If we sit around and wait until a few days before the deadline, we will never reach it.

[DeafPalmdale]

Let's do it on Feb. 1st. That way we can check if we can reached that goal. If not, then we can do that for a few more days before Feb. 5th. Doable and make sure "newbies" join us with this money bomb.

[davidt!]

Trevor was on here earlier saying that he will probably get behind the Feb 1st anniversary bomb. We need to back this bomb as it seems the majority are on board with this date/bomb.

[Sey.Naci]

HQ is more than welcome to set goals! I'm really excited that they have set a new goal!So am I. People have been asking for a new target and a new widget. Now the campaign has done both.

[DirtMcGirt]

i need more cowbell... well there is a gold brick so i will donate

[Tratzman]

Feb 1st is a Friday and many people get paid on Friday's. From a practical standpoint this day makes sense. I'm all in!!

[hopeforamerica]

I'm in! Plus I just donated $100 today.

[tamor]

5 by 5

[virginiakid]

I will do the Feb. 1, as well as the libertytax08 with my brother and father on Feb 3. But I will also donate another $50-$75 today to help jump start the $5mil campaign.

[hellsingfan]

MASS E-MAIL MySpace, Facebook supporters and whatever we have. Let's start a hike NOW, and still do the moneybomb!!!

[literatim]

I am thinking we need to edge away from the money bomb and simply promote the goal the campaign set for us? Maybe we could even have an unofficial website about it so we can post up videos promoting it?

The sooner we get the money to the campaign, the better and this gives us a theme.

[tamor]

Yeah - virginiakid, brother, and father

[hellsingfan]

My other suggestion is have Peter Schiff mail his subscribers AGAIN, this time he can use the RECENT DECLINE, perhaps more will contribute!!! But don't mass e-mail Peter Schiff, lol. Tha
t'll be fked up. Let us decide NOW who will do that, JUST 1 or 2 people request this of Peter Schiff. (His subscribers should be loaded :) )

[RobS]

My other suggestion is have Peter Schiff mail his subscribers AGAIN, this time he can use the RECENT DECLINE, perhaps more will contribute!!! But don't mass e-mail Peter Schiff, lol. Tha
t'll be fked up. Let us decide NOW who will do that, JUST 1 or 2 people request this of Peter Schiff. (His subscribers should be loaded :) )

Considering he was named economic advisor to the RP campaign I am sure they will talk to him about something similar. He wants Ron to win, so if he thinks it is a good idea he will do it :)

[virginiakid]

Well just donated $100. Now I will wait till the Feb. 1 and 3rd donations. Will email as many people as I can on facebook, the meet-up, myspace etc....

[virginiakid]

BTW, why not try for more. The campaign goal is for $5mil, but why not work out getting about the $8.4 million mark?

[literatim]

Anyone want to register a domain? Maybe 5milliongoal.com or reachthegold.com to advertise this? There can be the script for the flash meter, banners, and youtube videos to advertise this.

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

I am thinking we need to edge away from the money bomb and simply promote the goal the campaign set for us? Maybe we could even have an unofficial website about it so we can post up videos promoting it?

The sooner we get the money to the campaign, the better and this gives us a theme.



Its kinda hard to promote (mySpace, YouTube, emails) the idea of a general increase in fundraising..."hey, we are going to try to donate more in general! you in?!"

Generates more excitement with a "Hey, Ron Paul MoneyBomb for the Boston TeaParty! We're gonna set a new record, and destroy John Kerry's one day fundraising record. Everyones donating $100. Check out these videos:..."

[rich34]

I wonder if we could get some of the big email list guys like Mercola, and Shiff to send out a mass email for one of the upcoming moneybombs?

[hellsingfan]

BTW, why not try for more. The campaign goal is for $5mil, but why not work out getting about the $8.4 million mark?

The goal is not 5 mill it is 8.4 Million. Its just we need 5 MORE MILLION.

We're at 3.4 + 5 (new) = 8.4 (target, look at the widget)

Get this straight people its 5 NEW MILLION, not reaching 5.

[literatim]

Its kinda hard to promote (mySpace, YouTube, emails) the idea of a general increase in fundraising..."hey, we are going to try to donate more in general! you in?!"

Generates more excitement with a "Hey, Ron Paul MoneyBomb for the Boston TeaParty! We're gonna set a new record, and destroy John Kerry's one day fundraising record. Everyones donating $100. Check out these videos:..."

Sorry, after watching the first goal ever set by the campaign of $250,000 and reaching $1 million instead, I beg to differ. There is an objective set.

[tpreitzel]

My other suggestion is have Peter Schiff mail his subscribers AGAIN, this time he can use the RECENT DECLINE, perhaps more will contribute!!! But don't mass e-mail Peter Schiff, lol. Tha
t'll be fked up. Let us decide NOW who will do that, JUST 1 or 2 people request this of Peter Schiff. (His subscribers should be loaded :) )

BTW, I just received an e-mail from Peter Schiff a couple of days ago. Basically, he said that Ron had enough money, but not enough votes. Well, since we have a NEW target to meet, maybe someone else should e-mail him again reminding him that Ron placed 2nd in both Nevada and Louisiana, and he needs ANOTHER $5M by Feb 5th.
;)

[Jerome]

We must do this. Our money bombs as of late have been too disorganized and fragmented w/ support.

I'm in for $100 on Feb 1.

[Sey.Naci]

Personally, everybody just needs to choose one day to donate. but at the same time, we just need to get the word out and ask everybody to donate. I like the anniversary date. Everybody donates $51. Everyday needs to be a money bomb personally. Our goal should be to raise at least $500,000 a day.Yes. However each chooses to support this, just make sure we achieve at least $500K per day.

[virginiakid]

Saw my name on the recent donors list on the money count--Woot!

[hellsingfan]

bump

[DirtMcGirt]

if this is going to work we need to pull dennis, fred, and somehow rudy's campaign...

[syborius]

Bump

[Eric21ND]

We either have to go with the Feb 1st money bomb or daily cluster bombs of $500,000?

What have you good sir?

[virginiakid]

I wonder if we can get over the $3.5 mil mark before everybody wakes up on the east coast in the morning? It is only like $11,000 dollars.

[Royksopp]

Go for the Feb 1st moneybombs- both Anniversary AND Faux news (www.fauxnewsmoneybomb.com).

If after that we still need more, we'll organise something then.

Hopefully we'll not just get to the 5million, we'll smash through it.

[tpreitzel]

Yes. However each chooses to support this, just make sure we achieve at least $500K per day.

The odds of that happening is rather remote. Why? People are paying off credit cards from Christmas, property taxes or already donated to campaign for January. The next payday will be Feb 1st for many people.

[virginiakid]

The Feb. 1 bomb will definitely have an effect if it is very successful. At the same time, I would really focus on getting the daily goals set as well with the big anniversary money bomb on the 1rst of Feb. Just my opinion.

[homah]

In for one of these on 2/1 ($110.11):

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1055/post06asxi0.gif

[virginiakid]

bump

[cien750hp]

headquarters asks for five million dollars
by ron paul we will give them five million dollars
(not by god though, he endorsed the huckster i hear)

[Elwar]

Feb 1st is the perfect storm of Money Bombs.

http://www.fauxnewsmoneybomb.com
http://www.paulfamilyvalues.com
http://www.bostontvparty.com

Plus it's a Ron Paul payday.

Whatever the cause...donate on Feb 1st. It's the Friday before the big weekend.

[Bradley in DC]

Does this mean they expect to pick up one delegate on Super Tuesday? We've donated $30 million so far for only 6 delegates, so that's about $5 million each (the most expensive in history).

[wirenut]

We gotta get this done. They set a goal and we must complete it.

[Sey.Naci]

The odds of that happening is rather remote. Why? People are paying off credit cards from Christmas, property taxes or already donated to campaign for January. The next payday will be Feb 1st for many people.Maybe so, but there are some members here who are really, really tired of the money bombs. I recall a time not long ago when some posters were really irate about being told when to donate and when not to. That's why it makes sense simply to say, "pick whatever plan (or non-plan) you like and just do it."

[ayort]

I'd say to all this. Great to see the official campaign set a finacial goal. The other guys are running out of money. A big boost a few days before super tuesday will go a long way with free national advertising, and money on hand for the campaign.

Here in Colorado, I heard an Obama ad for the first time today. They played it five times during my drive into and out of work. We need a Paul ad to compete and money talks. So, Bombs away people.

To the guy who way angry they want more money. Give them all your nearly worthless paper for freedom today. So, you won't have to give blood tomorrow.

I also think the bomb should be for the first and second. Many people will get paid friday, go home, then flood the web site. this could cause a problem like the last half hour of teaparty07, Only hours long, instead of 20 or so min.

Just a few thoughts.

[AlexMerced]

those who can donate, donate, those who can't get the word out to someone who can and stop saying we can't

[bucfish]

If you can GO ALL IN do it and do not be afraid then spread the word. New supporters are coming in every day.

[Paul4Prez]

The FEC reports for the fourth quarter are going to go public at the end of January. It would be great to report "Ron Paul led all Republicans with $19.8 million raised in the fourth quarter, and his supporters have pitched in another $5 million already in January...."

Make it a BIG donation people -- Uncle Sam is sending you a $300 stimulus check (or more) that you hadn't planned on receiving.

[Soccrmastr]

Yes, indeed. A money bomb has been proposed for Feb 1st. I suggest we get behind that one NOW! Spread the word. Other ideas can take place after Super Tuesday. We simply do NOT have anymore time to debate the means of fulfilling their request for an additional $5M! None. Zero. Zilch.

screw that Feb 1st is too late

How about everyone just donates now you noobs.

[Elle]

screw that Feb 1st is too late

How about everyone just donates now you noobs.

QFT. don't wait.

[lloydian]

Some of the early carriers of the torch are maxed out. It is going to take very strong resolve and committment by some of the newer supporters to make this happen.

Don't assume it will be as easy to raise the kinds of $ that were raised on Nov 5th and
Dec 16th.

We need very strong showings from some of the newer Paulites!!!

[virginiakid]

That is what I have been saying, everybody donates now, get as much as possible before Feb. 1, then have a real big one on the 1rst--like the donate $51 for 51 years of marriage anniversary.

[q_castic]

HQ! Grassroots needs to get a message from RP to this forum and some tv or youtube acknowledgement. The standard, "We don't even ask them to do these moneybombs," is played out. How about some better encouragement and communication on this one? We need some revitalization and hearing directly from Ron Paul would provide that and bring in more excitement that will push us to reach the goal. Am I crazy?

[Paul4Prez]

February 5th is only 10 days away. $5 million more by then is $500,000 PER DAY. The only way we're going to average that is to have at least one money bomb, and there's not much time to get it going.

Everyone who doesn't like money bombs, just send in your money now. Money bombs work -- why mess with success?

The best non-money bomb (or non-money bomb "echo") day was October 22nd, which brought in only $160K.

Here are the 10 best fundraising days of the campaign:

2007-12-16 $6,043,022.96 Tea Party 07 money bomb
2007-11-05 $3,994,713.65 This November 5th money bomb
2008-01-21 $1,850,160.95 Free at Last money bomb
2007-11-30 $531,438.82 Rudy's Reading list money bomb
2007-11-06 $389,344.46 Nov. 5th money bomb echo
2007-12-31 $387,954.10 New Year's Eve money bomb
2007-12-17 $309,815.51 Tea Party money bomb echo
2007-11-20 $250,346.85 impromptu out-do Huckabee money bomb effort
2007-11-11 $233,526.57 Veteran's Day money bomb
2007-10-22 $164,290.93 regular donation day

[tpreitzel]

screw that Feb 1st is too late

How about everyone just donates now you noobs.

Well, you can't bleed a turnip, but go ahead and try! ;)

[BeFranklin]

Super bowl money bomb

[Lord Xar]

HQ! Grassroots needs to get a message from RP to this forum and some tv or youtube acknowledgement. The standard, "We don't even ask them to do these moneybombs," is played out. How about some better encouragement and communication on this one? We need some revitalization and hearing directly from Ron Paul would provide that and bring in more excitement that will push us to reach the goal. Am I crazy?


I AGREE. RON NEEDS TO MAKE a Youtube plea! He really needs to.

Can someone get this to the HQ about this. It is really needed. Email pleas JUST DO NOT CUT IT!

People are moved most by his speach, his endearment, his honesty..

He needs to be a youtube plea and talk about the MSM blackout becaue they don't want the message spreading...

RON, DO IT!

[-lotus-]

get ghoeberx on this STAT!

(pretty please!!!)

[EyesOfTime]

This is what needs to be done: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=101030

[tpreitzel]

This is what needs to be done: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=101030

Realistically, it's not going to happen in the alloted time, but feel free to prove me wrong! Personally, spreading the word about donating on Feb 1st makes the most sense. The time for discussing these things has functionally expired. The goal of an additional $5M should be possible from Feb 1st to Feb 4th with a concerted effort. If the money bomb on Feb 1st doesn't reach the $8M mark for the quarter, a few more days will give some breathing room. If people have additional funds to donate BEFORE Feb 1st, please do so.

[acroso]

5 mil. No problemo...even tho MLK was a success with 1.7 mil..
most of us can't continue giving 200 or 300 dollars on each money bomb.

[tpreitzel]

5 mil. No problemo...even tho MLK was a success with 1.7 mil..
most of us can't continue giving 200 or 300 dollars on each money bomb.

Right ...Like you, I think we'll make the additional $5M if we stop squabbling over nonsense and get the word out NOW about Feb 1st and the campaign's need for that money before Feb 5th!

[Bruce4Ron]

How many money bombs are there? A lot it seems. Each one is asking for money (obviously).

It just feels unorganized. HQ speaking up and setting a specific date would be helpful. Feb 1 seems to be the right time for yet another historic event.

[smartpeople4ronpaul]

blimp. Let's help out the Dr.

[wgadget]

Isn't February 1st also the F%&% Fox News Money Bomb? I'm thinking we could get a lot of traction with that one...if only by advertising it on youtube videos.

[virginiakid]

Feb 1 it is--Ron Paul's MArriage anniversary. Wouldn't that be a wonderful Anniversary present?????? Feb. 1 it is....

[Dave Pedersen]

Who among us is able to start a chip-in for some flowers for the Pauls?

[FireofLiberty]

From what I understand there are three proposed money bombs: the Anniversary bomb, the Fox News Boycott bomb and the 'Tax Refund' Bomb.

We won't be getting the 'refund' checks until sometime in May so that's out of the question at this time. Trevor posted a thread the other day asking people to vote on which of the two other bombs they prefer, the Anniversary bomb or the Fox bomb. I believe Anniversary was winning last I checked. Trevor also suggested we focus on the Anniversary bomb on the 1st and do the Fox bomb at a later date. I agree with this.

So let's all focus on the Anniversary bomb for now, set the Fox bomb for a later date and then do the 'refund' bomb when we get the checks (likely sometime in May).

Who's with me?

[RonPaul_SantaMonica]

Who among us is able to start a chip-in for some flowers for the Pauls?


I will pay for the flowers. Everyone contribute to the campaign.

[tpreitzel]

Who among us is able to start a chip-in for some flowers for the Pauls?

Great idea. Personally, prior commitments exclude me from helping in this regard, but I'm sure others will. It's simply a fantastic idea.

[FireofLiberty]

Who among us is able to start a chip-in for some flowers for the Pauls?

Donating to the campaign = greater than sending them flowers. I agree it would be a nice gesture, but let's focus on what's important. Flowers will eventually die and be thrown away. Money, on the other hand, can be put to good use.

For example, it's always bothered me when people send flowers to a funeral. I think about how all of that money spent on them could have went to a charity in the name of the deceased. Remember when Princess Diana died? Remember all those flowers, et al. people left at the Palace gates? Imagine if instead all of the money people spent on that stuff had gone to charity in her name?

Anyway, my apologizes for the rant but my point is any money spent on flowers would be better spent in the form of a donation to the campaign.

[wgadget]

Sure, I'm with you...Whatever the occasion, we need to get Ron the money. I finally figured out today that I can use my husband's name to donate, since I'm maxed out.

[tpreitzel]

Donating to the campaign = greater than sending them flowers. I agree it would be a nice gesture, but let's focus on what's important. Flowers will eventually die and be thrown away. Money, on the other hand, can be put to good use.

For example, it's always bothered me when people send flowers to a funeral. I think about how all of that money spent on them could have went to a charity in the name of the deceased. Remember when Princess Diana died? Remember all those flowers, et al. people left at the Palace gates? Imagine if instead all of the money people spent on that stuff had gone to charity in her name?

Anyway, my apologizes for the rant but my point is any money spent on flowers would be better spent in the form of a donation to the campaign.

We already have a buyer and there are people who have the money, but have already reached their $2300 limit on donations.

[FireofLiberty]

Sure, I'm with you...Whatever the occasion, we need to get Ron the money. I finally figured out today that I can use my husband's name to donate, since I'm maxed out.

You can also use the name of deceased relatives it turns out, if you wanna go there. Not that I'm suggesting it, just sayin'

[Marc3579]

Er uh I wouldn't suggest using a deceased relative... I'd also, have the hubby donate himself...

[FireofLiberty]

We already have a buyer and there are people who have the money, but have already reached their $2300 limit on donations.

Then give money to one of the many other chip-ins designed to help the campaign like the Meet-up billboard or sign chip-ins.

Or to one of the money other non-chip-in RP projects.

Or donate money to one of the many pro-liberty, RPR candidates running for Congress like BJ Lawson.

Hell, give money to the Blimp. I think it's time to retire the Blimp, but I still think giving to the Blimp would be better.

There's plenty of other good uses for the money, is all I'm saying.

[FireofLiberty]

Er uh I wouldn't suggest using a deceased relative... I'd also, have the hubby donate himself...

Yeah, it's not something I'd to, but I thought I'd point out it can be done and indeed people have done it. I read an article about it recently that had a break down of donations by party and candidate from the deceased.

[tpreitzel]

Then give money to one of the many other chip-ins designed to help the campaign like the Meet-up billboard or sign chip-ins.

Or to one of the money other non-chip-in RP projects.

Or donate money to one of the many pro-liberty, RPR candidates running for Congress like BJ Lawson.

Hell, give money to the Blimp. I think it's time to retire the Blimp, but I still think giving to the Blimp would be better.

There's plenty of other good uses for the money, is all I'm saying.

Like flowers? ;) j/k Personally, I think you're being a little extreme, but I do understand your point.

[virginiakid]

Really? You can only donate up to $2300 per campaign cycle? That stinks. They really know how to sock it to you don't they. Well, I'm not there yet, Got a ways to go. Get people you know to send in the donations for you. Pay them the money and have them donate in their name and they can donate as well by adding in their own donations. Just a thought.

[FireofLiberty]

Like flowers? ;) j/k Personally, I think you're being a little extreme, but I do understand your point.

I just think they're/it's wasteful, is all. Maybe I'm used too used to going behind the florist shop and getting flowers out of the dumpster if I want flowers, lol.

[Ronin]

If all precinct leaders donated/collected $400 we would be GTG

[Dave Pedersen]

Set up a chip-in where the max donation is five bucks.. a thank you card from everybody in the grassroots. Then add $5 more to your campaign donation.

Carol and Ron deserve this gesture of gratitude. And we deserve the opportunity to give it. Never leave off being kind and human in the good quest. What is victory if we abandon our freedom? What is freedom if we forget to love? Keep it human and we will not regret the manner in which we struggled.

[FireofLiberty]

Set up a chip-in where the max donation is five bucks.. a thank you card from everybody in the grassroots. Then add $5 more to your campaign donation.

Carol and Ron deserve this gesture of gratitude. And we deserve the opportunity to give it. Never leave off being kind and human in the good quest. What is victory if we abandon our freedom? What is freedom if we forget to love? Keep it human and we will not regret the manner in which we struggled.

I think donations to the campaign are a pretty good gesture of gratitude and love.

I like the card.

[RCRanger03]

whatever we choose we need a widget like the quill.

[tpreitzel]

Although a little OT for this thread, I need some information. I don't have credit cards, PayPal, etc. I deal with hard currency or through a checking account only. I'd prefer to leave the checking account out of this equation. Is it possible to use cash to buy a card for making an online donation, e.g. a chip-in or donation to the campaign? Does Wal-Mart have such a card for purchase with cash?

[virginiakid]

I am sure you can buy a credit card from wal-mart. I cannot remember what they are called, but basically you put how ever much money you want on it and then you can use it up to that amount. So yes, that is very possible.

[Dave Pedersen]

I think donations to the campaign are a pretty good gesture of gratitude and love.

I like the card.

No. Donations to the campaign are to fight the battle of freedom for our country, to get Dr. Paul elected. Flowers on the wedding anniversary of Carol and Ron should be given based on free will to do so. For those who do not want to participate then simply DON'T. But how is it that once again any decision to start something is shot down as though it is going to hurt the grassroots effort to achieve our goal?

Participation is participation and guess what? Participation promotes further freedom to participate. Perhaps even in something YOU would support. Stop telling people not to do this like those who are not interested have equal say in the matter.

You are NOT going to stop me from giving five lousy dollars to someone's anniversary. You do NOT own my money Sir. I do.

Don't even try it.

*********************

Now then who among us will step up and start the chip-in? I don't know how to do that but I'm sure somebody can do it easily. Five dollar maximum for Carol and Ron on their anniversary.

Think about it.. about one year ago around their 50th anniversary they must have had a private chat about what they wanted to do.. after 50 years of marriage and raising so many wonderful children and a tremendous career in medicine and also amazingly serving as a Congressman.. they must have had a chat about deciding together if they really wanted to embark on nothing less than a presidential campaign...

think about it

[tpreitzel]

I am sure you can buy a credit card from wal-mart. I cannot remember what they are called, but basically you put how ever much money you want on it and then you can use it up to that amount. So yes, that is very possible.

I thank you.

[ceitniear]

I'd suggest going with the Feb 1st money bomb. It can be a combined Anniversary bomb/fukk Fox News bomb.

I'd also suggest the admins of this and other sites, Daily Paul, Ron Paul Forum, etc., mass email all members of their respective sites to let them know about the money bomb(s).

I think we suffer from a lack of organization in regards to money bombs lately; the Guy Fawkes Day money bomb and the Tea Party money bomb were well organized and advertised well in advance, however, the MLK money bomb seemed like it was rather a disorganized effort and the results showed it. (2 million in one day is outstanding, but not our best work). Just recently I've seen suggestions for five or more money bombs all on different dates. Whatever we wind up doing, lets all get on the same page, organize, and meet or exceed the goal.

EDIT: Oh, and please sticky this thread!

[FireofLiberty]

No. Donations to the campaign are to fight the battle of freedom for our country, to get Dr. Paul elected. Flowers on the wedding anniversary of Carol and Ron should be given based on free will to do so. For those who do not want to participate then simply DON'T. But how is it that once again any decision to start something is shot down as though it is going to hurt the grassroots effort to achieve our goal?

Participation is participation and guess what? Participation promotes further freedom to participate. Perhaps even in something YOU would support. Stop telling people not to do this like those who are not interested have equal say in the matter.

You are NOT going to stop me from giving five lousy dollars to someone's anniversary. You do NOT own my money Sir. I do.

Don't even try it.

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Now then who among us will step up and start the chip-in? I don't know how to do that but I'm sure somebody can do it easily. Five dollar maximum for Carol and Ron on their anniversary.

Think about it.. about one year ago around their 50th anniversary they must have had a private chat about what they wanted to do.. after 50 years of marriage and raising so many wonderful children and a tremendous career in medicine and also amazingly serving as a Congressman.. they must have had a chat about deciding together if they really wanted to embark on nothing less than a presidential campaign...

think about it

I have no desire, nor the authority, to tell you what to do with your money. I realize this and I wouldn't want to. I'm just making my point and speaking my mind. It is your money and you are correct that you should do what you want with it. That is what freedom is all about.

So believe me, I don't disagree with you on that point, but why become so flustered (and I'm sorry if I'm misreading you, but that's what it seems like you're becoming, particularly based on your use of CAPS for certain words) and make a statement like "for those who do not want to participate then simply DON'T" but then say "stop telling people not to do this like those who are not interested have equal say in the matter" if you recognize that ultimately it is an individual decision? Those who want to participate will and those who don't, as you say, won't.

But to continue to exercise my freedom of speech I have a feeling that if you were to ask Ron and Carol what would they rather have on their anniversary, flowers or campaign donations, they would reply "campaign donations."

But absolutely, it is your decision so do what you want. I'm just speaking my mind. :)

Oh and by the way, sadly every decision or idea will have its detractors. That's a fact of life. It's something everyone has to get used to or they're going to make themselves upset for no good reason. :)

[FireofLiberty]

I thank you.

Just verifying that virginiakid is correct.

[virginiakid]

BTW....Personally it would be really nice to see the donation totals be around the $5Million before the Feb. 1 date. Then we would only have to raise $3.4 Million to get it to $8.4 Million. But we'll get there no matter what.

[newyearsrevolution08]

We need to get all the grassroots income generation BACK TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. I know we would then be able to raise another 5 million no problem. It is not that the 400k or so forth on the blimp is taking away from the overall income BUT it is taking quality manpower away and EFFORT. This goes for all the other grassroots efforts as well.

Why not PAUSE the grassroots money generating and get it back where it belongs. Then after feb 5th they can go back to business as usual????

[emk]

I am definitely in.

[virginiakid]

Absolutely....You can still do what you are doing, just promote the 1rst as the mega bomb day and divert all funds toward RP campaign.

[Dave Pedersen]

I have no desire, nor the authority, to tell you what to do with your money. I realize this and I wouldn't want to. I'm just making my point and speaking my mind. It is your money and you are correct that you should do what you want with it. That is what freedom is all about.

So believe me, I don't disagree with you on that point, but why become so flustered (and I'm sorry if I'm misreading you, but that's what it seems like you're becoming, particularly based on your use of CAPS for certain words) and make a statement like "for those who do not want to participate then simply DON'T" but then say "stop telling people not to do this like those who are not interested have equal say in the matter" if you recognize that ultimately it is an individual decision? Those who want to participate will and those who don't, as you say, won't.

But to continue to exercise my freedom of speech I have a feeling that if you were to ask Ron and Carol what would they rather have on their anniversary, flowers or campaign donations, they would reply "campaign donations."

But absolutely, it is your decision so do what you want. I'm just speaking my mind. :)

Oh and by the way, sadly every decision or idea will have its detractors. That's a fact of life. It's something everyone has to get used to or they're going to make themselves upset for no good reason. :)

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth:

..."Then give money to one of the many other chip-ins designed to help the campaign like the Meet-up billboard or sign chip-ins.

Or to one of the money other non-chip-in RP projects.

Or donate money to one of the many pro-liberty, RPR candidates running for Congress like BJ Lawson.

Hell, give money to the Blimp. I think it's time to retire the Blimp, but I still think giving to the Blimp would be better.

There's plenty of other good uses for the money, is all I'm saying."...


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If you don't want to participate in a flower chip-in then *simply* DON'T.

[DFF]

But I think we're very disorganized these days on the donation thing. Any suggestions?

In terms of the disorganization, it's bad.

This total lack of centralization on fundraising needs to stop.

Someone needs to take the lead (e.g. an Admin) come out and say "This is what we're going to do and here's the plan explaining how we're going to go about doing it."

Then put the concept in a big, bright, golden *STICKY* - inside a forum of it's own - we all unilaterally get behind it, and begin the process of making it go viral on Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, and every other corner of the known internet.

[Dave Pedersen]

The "Going for the Gold" fundraising drive initiated by HQ essentially nullifies any money bomb effort between now and the middle of February.

I suggest we focus on one well planned money bomb for the 13th of April and let it be a big one. Support it with a website and excellent videos and promote it like crazy and go for ten million dollars. Anyone who suggests the inevitable plethora of moneybombs for br'er wabbit day or whatever should be covered in honey and cast out into the verdant green for a minimum of 35 seconds... no make it 40 seconds..


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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=97106

[newyearsrevolution08]

We had trevor doing this DFF but he is so caught up with flying around towns and cities atm lol. I really wish people would not have branched away from the main goal just to show that they can get other things going as well.

Imagine if all grassroot event starters and promoters ALL focused 100% on getting donations to the main camaign? imagine how huge of an income we could produce for the campaign DAILY.

I think we need to say STOP..... woooooo! horsey lol.

Stop funding the grassroot campaigns 100% and start funding the campaign 100% because they said they need the money and people keep branching off doing their own thing trying to make a name for themselves. We all have done it including myself BUT its getting too close to feb 5th and this one is important. Once it comes and goes then by all means go make airplanes, limos, boats and strippers all be ron paul styled BUT come on people.

lets get back to basics and get the OFFICIAL campaign funded NOW.

[Sentinelrv]

In terms of the disorganization, it's bad.

This total lack of centralization on fundraising needs to stop.

Someone needs to take the lead (e.g. an Admin) come out and say "This is what we're going to do and here's the plan explaining how we're going to go about doing it."

Then put the concept in a big, bright, golden *STICKY* - inside a forum of it's own - we all unilaterally get behind it, and begin the process of making it go viral on Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, and every other corner of the known internet.

Exactly, there's too many chiefs here and no indians. We don't have time to debate here. Every second we waste is money going down the drain.

[FireofLiberty]

You are talking out of both sides of your mouth:

..."Then give money to one of the many other chip-ins designed to help the campaign like the Meet-up billboard or sign chip-ins.

Or to one of the money other non-chip-in RP projects.

Or donate money to one of the many pro-liberty, RPR candidates running for Congress like BJ Lawson.

Hell, give money to the Blimp. I think it's time to retire the Blimp, but I still think giving to the Blimp would be better.

There's plenty of other good uses for the money, is all I'm saying."...


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If you don't want to participate in a flower chip-in then *simply* DON'T.

No need to be rude, sir.

I don't plan to participate, but you're not going to silence me. I will speak my mind about it and I certainly fail to see how I'm "talking out of both sides of my mouth." I've said and continue to say there are better uses for the money than a flower chip-in. If you haven't maxed out than certainly give to the official campaign. If they have, which is what the above that you quoted was in response to, there are still better uses for the money such as RP grassroots chip-ins, supporting RPR candidates, etc.

The time you're taking to defend your pet project could be used to carry it out, because as you've said those who want to participate will and those who do not want.

So why be so rude about it? If you truly believe what you say than you shouldn't be attacking me for speaking my mind about your idea nor anyone else.

I'm sorry I upset you, but I greatly enjoy exercising my freedom of speech and will not stop. Still, I wish you the best of luck with your project, even though I think any money given to it could be better spent elsewhere :)

[RickyJ]

The fact that Ron Paul wants this money by February 5th means that he plans on staying in the race regardless of the results of Super Tuesday. That means his chances of running third party have just gone up if he doesn't get the Republican nomination. He wouldn't need extra money now for Super Tuesday, it would have to already be spent for TV time I would think. This money is for after Super Tuesday. Ron Paul has no plans to drop out of this race. I love it!

[Marc3579]

We need to give someone like Trevor the power to pick a money bomb day. Lord Xar makes vids so why don't we try to get him or Elib3rty in on making a video for this money-bomb?

[tpreitzel]

The fact that Ron Paul wants this money by February 5th means that he plans on staying in the race regardless of the results of Super Tuesday. That means his chances of running third party have just gone up if he doesn't get the Republican nomination. He wouldn't need extra money now for Super Tuesday, it would have to already be spent for TV time I would think. This money is for after Super Tuesday. Ron Paul has no plans to drop out of this race. I love it!

Personally, I think the campaign realizes that they'll have to use nearly ALL of their current reserves for Super Tuesday because we've failed to give them the additional $23M needed, and needs immediate funds to continue operation following Feb 5th.

[DFF]

There are 11 more days till Super Tuesday so we need to come a consensus...y'know...unite or die...

[virginiakid]

Absolutely, get the Feb. 1 thing out of the way. Everybody stop funding the Grassroots and totally focus on the campaign. While the videos, and the ad campaigns are being made for this Feb. 1 media bomb, I am going to work on my precinct organization and build the organization needed for the Feb. 12 primary in VA.

[electronicmaji]

FEB 1st it is, I'm gonna sell my body to give freedom to this nation!

[newyearsrevolution08]

This only works if Trevor will get off the grassroot campaign and get back to organizing to fund the official campaign.


We need to give someone like Trevor the power to pick a money bomb day. Lord Xar makes vids so why don't we try to get him or Elib3rty in on making a video for this money-bomb?

[Marc3579]

Trevor does have the e-mail lists, but, I'm sure he could easily forward/attach them to an e-mail to someone else to bcc a notice of the money bomb...

[Peterjar]

February it is. Donate Donate Donate

[Marc3579]

We need to donate now through Feb 4th whatever it takes to get the 5 million dollars!

[Dave Pedersen]

No need to be rude, sir.

I don't plan to participate, but you're not going to silence me. I will speak my mind about it and I certainly fail to see how I'm "talking out of both sides of my mouth." I've said and continue to say there are better uses for the money than a flower chip-in. If you haven't maxed out than certainly give to the official campaign. If they have, which is what the above that you quoted was in response to, there are still better uses for the money such as RP grassroots chip-ins, supporting RPR candidates, etc.

The time you're taking to defend your pet project could be used to carry it out, because as you've said those who want to participate will and those who do not want.

So why be so rude about it? If you truly believe what you say than you shouldn't be attacking me for speaking my mind about your idea nor anyone else.

I'm sorry I upset you, but I greatly enjoy exercising my freedom of speech and will not stop. Still, I wish you the best of luck with your project, even though I think any money given to it could be better spent elsewhere :)

I'm not rude. I'm trying to get you to stop trying to shoot down a lousy five dollar chip-in for flowers. But you won't stop. All you have to do is live and let live but you won't stop attacking something so simple and insignificant as a five dollar chip-in. Calling it your free speech right to say on the one hand "I would never dream of telling anyone how to spend their money" and on the other hand saying " donate to this or give to that but the flowers are a waste of money" is talking out of both sides of your mouth. Calling me rude is also just more B. as in Blowing and S. as in Smoke.

I was asking for someone to start a chip-in for some flowers and you simply could not let it happen without trying to shoot it down. Many here try to shoot one or another thing down on the argument they know how to spend someone else's money better. NO. You DO NOT know how to allocate grassroots funds better than I do if the funds in question are coming out of MY pocket. I want to participate in a five dollar flower chip-in for the anniversary. Now please quit trying to shoot down this simple modest attempt to achieve the necessary organization to allow it to happen.

You greatly enjoy exercising your free speech. To what end? To better allocate funds which are not yours? To destroy a simple attempt to organize a modest chip-in? Do I really have to start a new thread to accomplish this simple thing?

Why would anyone be so tenacious about arguing against a five dollar chip-in for flowers for Carol and Ron? Why? What manner of enjoyment is gained by your efforts? One can only wonder.

[FireofLiberty]

I'm not rude. I'm trying to get you to stop trying to shoot down a lousy five dollar chip-in for flowers. But you won't stop. All you have to do is live and let live but you won't stop attacking something so simple and insignificant as a five dollar chip-in. Calling it your free speech right to say on the one hand "I would never dream of telling anyone how to spend their money" and on the other hand saying " donate to this or give to that but the flowers are a waste of money" is talking out of both sides of your mouth. Calling me rude is also just more B. as in Blowing and S. as in Smoke.

I was asking for someone to start a chip-in for some flowers and you simply could not let it happen without trying to shoot it down. Many here try to shoot one or another thing down on the argument they know how to spend someone else's money better. NO. You DO NOT know how to allocate grassroots funds better than I do if the funds in question are coming out of MY pocket. I want to participate in a five dollar flower chip-in for the anniversary. Now please quit trying to shoot down this simple modest attempt to achieve the necessary organization to allow it to happen.

You greatly enjoy exercising your free speech. To what end? To better allocate funds which are not yours? To destroy a simple attempt to organize a modest chip-in? Do I really have to start a new thread to accomplish this simple thing?

Why would anyone be so tenacious about arguing against a five dollar chip-in for flowers for Carol and Ron? Why? What manner of enjoyment is gained by your efforts? One can only wonder.

Thank you for proving my point about you being rude, although I'd say you've ventured into a level past rude with this latest post. I still think money could be better spent elsewhere, but I'll do you the favor of dropping the issue, mainly because it's clear for all your talk of me "not stopping" you won't.

Goodluck with your chip-in and have a nice day. :)

[chelu]

I'm broke. I have almost nothing left in my bank account. I've contributed over $300 since the last week of the 3rd Q (25, 151, & 51 - for 11/5, 12/16, 1/21). I have no discretionary income and no job. That said, tell me the day and time, and I will be there with my biggest possible contribution. I will find somethings to sell on ebay or whatever, even if I end up selling it below value. The way i see it, it's now or never. I doubt i can continue finding money to donate, months from now, so if my contribution now, keeps Dr. Paul in the race beyond Feb 5th, hopefully the new supporters that come in will pick up some of my slack the rest of the year.

If you truly support Ron Paul and what this whole campaign is about, i know you feel like i do that there is no time to ponder defeat, nor is there ANY reason to think of quitting or going to support a "winner". We've come so so far from the days when $1 million in a week was amazing. $12 million in a quarter was also seen as setting ourselves up for embarrassment, especially when we could only muster around $2 mil, right before Nov 5th (already a full month in to the 4th quarter). The fact that we are even throwing around ideas to make $10 million in a day, and can do so with straight faces, is another reason to be hopeful. We can get this $5 million+ done, and we need to get it done. We won't have an opportunity to elect a person like this, for another couple decades, if ever again. We're still in this thing and let's not let up just yet. Ron Paul has already said, he's done when we're done. We're all counting on each other to dig deep, so let's do it.

[liberteebell]

FEB 1st it is, I'm gonna sell my body to give freedom to this nation!


Dang! And I thought I was dedicated...:p