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freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 08:54 PM
[Admin- please note the following concern- the site says: "In the event of default the money will be donated directly to the campaign."
Said below: This can't possible happen. Maximum donation is 2500.
Discuss below.]

check out the story here [url]www.ronpaulracing.com/url] will address this with the site and post their response

surf
01-25-2008, 08:59 PM
congratulations. driver?

sgrooms
01-25-2008, 09:03 PM
nice. they need to post how much has been raised

also, get trevor to send out a mass email, and make sure all meetups know about this.

DirtMcGirt
01-25-2008, 09:03 PM
who's the driver? is this legit? and i might watch nascar now...

RP08

MichaelD
01-25-2008, 09:06 PM
This would get alot of votes, Nascar is really big.

BeFranklin
01-25-2008, 09:07 PM
In the event of default the money will be donated directly to the campaign.
design by realm9

This can't possible happen. Maximum donation is 2500.

ForrestLayne
01-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Ron Paul Racing Lands a Car!
After exiting conversation’s with Doug Yates Racing, we have secured permission to announce our sponsor intentions. Not just any car but the legendary #28 making its historic return to the track since it was retired shortly after the passing of NASCAR great Davey Allison in 1993. Imagine the coverage this team is going to get for Ron Paul.

Doug Yates Racing, with 48 poles, 57 wins including two Daytona 500s and a Championship, is no stranger to winning. The #28 car also posted the 4th fastest time in Daytona’s preseason test earlier this month. Imagine the coverage this car will get for its history alone. Now imagine it covered with Ron Paul. This would be the first time a NASCAR racecar was sponsored by "We the People", the fans, the Ron Paul Revolution.

However, depending on our commitment we will need to collect $50K to 400k in the next 2 weeks. Considering we (the grassroots supporters) have collected 6.5 million in 24 hours, WE CAN DO THIS! But we need everyone’s help. Please copy this hyperlink-logo and post it everywhere. Add www.ronpaulracing.com to your email signature and most of all donate today.

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 09:12 PM
I sent ,,, scott@ronpaulracing.com ,,, A message that he needs to get a meter to show how much and how many have donated...
didn't see anything about a driver, but the car #28 also posted the 4th fastest time in Daytona’s preseason test earlier this month. Imagine the coverage this car will get for its history alone. the legendary Davey Allison #

runningdiz
01-25-2008, 09:13 PM
the 28 car is driven by Travis Kvapil this year. It is guarunteed a spot in the Daytona 500 cause the car finished in the top 35 in points.

ronpaulitician
01-25-2008, 09:14 PM
Very cool. Gonna donate tomorrow.

DirtMcGirt
01-25-2008, 09:15 PM
bump and so should the blimp team!!!

literatim
01-25-2008, 09:15 PM
He needs to hook up with a PAC. The only legal way to do this is to start a PAC or work with one.

tomveil
01-25-2008, 09:16 PM
Awesome idea :)

runningdiz
01-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Someone may want to read into this. Rather interesting...

NASCAR driver is rebuked for Bush sticker

It’s no secret that NASCAR drivers skew Republican, which is fine with the Federal Election Commission, just so long as they don’t display their preferences where anyone can see them.

In a decision announced Tuesday, the FEC sent an “admonishment letter” to Kirk Shelmerdine Racing. Kirk Shelmerdine, a former pit boss for the late Dale Earnhardt, has been an unsuccessful, underfunded and undersponsored driver. He has never finished higher than 26th.

So back in 2004, in a move perhaps designed to draw some attention to his car, he placed a “Bush-Cheney ’04” decal on his rear quarter panel, which was otherwise unencumbered by advertising. Democratic activist Sydnor Thompson complained to the FEC, and the agency found that Shelmerdine “may have made an unreported independent expenditure or a prohibited corporate expenditure.”

Former commissioner Bradley Smith dissented in one of the case’s early votes and blogged about the result this week. He has written that in reference to the FEC’s $250 expenditure limit, “evidence is strong that the market value of Shelmerdine’s rear quarter panel was approximately $0, give or take $249.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/a-478208~Yeas_and_Nays__Thursday__Dec__28.html

NASCAR also holds the right to deny certain sponsors or decals on cars. They have done this in the past not allowing Playboy to sponsor and they used to not allow hard liquor to sponsor. They may have an issue with Ron Paul since most of the people who own NASCAR support the Ghoul.

tamor
01-25-2008, 09:21 PM
If this gets to the chip-in stage, make sure Paypal knows what is going on so funds can be released quickly. Remember what happened with the NH recount $$.

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 09:27 PM
The car owner i hope has checked into this

extrmmxer
01-25-2008, 09:34 PM
I can tell you that Robert Yates Racing has a strong history on restrictor plate racing. It is very likely the #28 will be starting up front. This would be a great opportunity.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
01-25-2008, 09:36 PM
Wow cars from 1993 are still competitive in Nascar? Who is the best driver that doesnt have a ride?

spm1024
01-25-2008, 10:05 PM
Wow cars from 1993 are still competitive in Nascar? Who is the best driver that doesnt have a ride?

noooooo....this would be a brand new car, with another brand new car sitting in a trailer as a backup. 1993 was in reference to the usage of the number 28.

This is a very good car with a very good team, which would be guaranteed to make the race.

I expected this plan to end up dealing with some scrub team that would be fighting to make the race. Kudos to the organizers!

ForrestLayne
01-25-2008, 10:11 PM
Someone may want to read into this. Rather interesting...

NASCAR driver is rebuked for Bush sticker

It’s no secret that NASCAR drivers skew Republican, which is fine with the Federal Election Commission, just so long as they don’t display their preferences where anyone can see them.

In a decision announced Tuesday, the FEC sent an “admonishment letter” to Kirk Shelmerdine Racing. Kirk Shelmerdine, a former pit boss for the late Dale Earnhardt, has been an unsuccessful, underfunded and undersponsored driver. He has never finished higher than 26th.

So back in 2004, in a move perhaps designed to draw some attention to his car, he placed a “Bush-Cheney ’04” decal on his rear quarter panel, which was otherwise unencumbered by advertising. Democratic activist Sydnor Thompson complained to the FEC, and the agency found that Shelmerdine “may have made an unreported independent expenditure or a prohibited corporate expenditure.”

Former commissioner Bradley Smith dissented in one of the case’s early votes and blogged about the result this week. He has written that in reference to the FEC’s $250 expenditure limit, “evidence is strong that the market value of Shelmerdine’s rear quarter panel was approximately $0, give or take $249.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/a-478208~Yeas_and_Nays__Thursday__Dec__28.html

NASCAR also holds the right to deny certain sponsors or decals on cars. They have done this in the past not allowing Playboy to sponsor and they used to not allow hard liquor to sponsor. They may have an issue with Ron Paul since most of the people who own NASCAR support the Ghoul.

Can one of the organizers address this and reply ASAP?

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 10:20 PM
Hope to have somone answer this soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,<a href="http://www.ronpaulracing.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.ronpaulracing.com/images/banners/BN160_198.gif" alt="RonPaulRacing.com | Racing to the White House in '08!" border="0"></a>

DirtMcGirt
01-25-2008, 10:23 PM
bump

spm1024
01-25-2008, 10:26 PM
I am not affiliated with this organization, but I think the Shelmerdine incident was different because he was the owner, as well as the driver, of the team.

I don't see how sponsoring a car would be any different than buying billboard space?

/I am not a campaign finance expert, or even a novice for that matter

slacker921
01-25-2008, 10:33 PM
"They may have an issue with Ron Paul since most of the people who own NASCAR support the Ghoul.".. Many of them do support the Ghoul and donated heavily to his campaign but there are a lot of others in the industry who don't support him.

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 10:34 PM
BANNERS where just put up on their site to use if anyone is interested... They are so cool

TN_VOL
01-25-2008, 10:43 PM
Yeah I would definetly donate to this. I just want to know some more about it. Oh and Nascar does allow hard liquor and political sponsorship because a Congressman from N.C. sposored a car a couple years ago, although it was in one of the lower circuits. It was Democrat Heath Shuler and he beat the Republican incumbent in a very conservative district, my next door district to be exact. As far a hard liquor goes Nascar now has a Crown Royal, Jim Beam, and Jack Daniels sponsored cars. This would be a great idea whether on the Nacar or Busch series circuit.

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 11:12 PM
bump

literatim
01-25-2008, 11:14 PM
I want to know what PAC this is or will be affiliated with before I go advertising it.

DrCap
01-25-2008, 11:22 PM
Nascar needs to support RP, it's in their roots - bootlegging during prohibition, beating the government cars with faster cars to move the shine.

from wikipedia:

"Stock car racing in the United States has its origins in bootlegging during Prohibition, when drivers ran bootleg whiskey made in Appalachia. Bootleggers needed to distribute their illicit products, and they typically used small, fast vehicles to better evade the police. Many of the drivers would modify their cars for speed and handling, as well as increased cargo capacity, and some of them came to love the fast-paced driving down twisty mountain roads. One of the main 'strips' in Knoxville, Tennessee, had its beginning as a mecca for aspiring bootlegging drivers. [4]

The repeal of Prohibition in 1933 dried up some of their business, but by then Southerners had developed a taste for moonshine, and a number of the drivers continued "runnin' shine," this time evading the "revenuers" who were attempting to tax their operations. [5] The cars continued to improve, and by the late 1940's, races featuring these cars were being run for pride and profit. These races were popular entertainment in the rural Southern United States, and they are most closely associated with the Wilkes County region of North Carolina. Most races in those days were of modified cars. Street vehicles were lightened and reinforced."

surf
01-25-2008, 11:31 PM
speaking of Heath Schuler, during Heath Schuler's first term in Washington DC, Joe Gibbs quit. Stop heath schuler from returning to Washington.

funny internet ad campaign: http://www.stopshuler.com/2006/09/another_tv_ad_a.html

nc4rp
01-25-2008, 11:32 PM
Nascar Fans Would Love Paul! They Have Been Spoon-fed The Ghoul

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 11:33 PM
Someone may want to read into this. Rather interesting...

NASCAR driver is rebuked for Bush sticker

It’s no secret that NASCAR drivers skew Republican, which is fine with the Federal Election Commission, just so long as they don’t display their preferences where anyone can see them.

In a decision announced Tuesday, the FEC sent an “admonishment letter” to Kirk Shelmerdine Racing. Kirk Shelmerdine, a former pit boss for the late Dale Earnhardt, has been an unsuccessful, underfunded and undersponsored driver. He has never finished higher than 26th.

So back in 2004, in a move perhaps designed to draw some attention to his car, he placed a “Bush-Cheney ’04” decal on his rear quarter panel, which was otherwise unencumbered by advertising. Democratic activist Sydnor Thompson complained to the FEC, and the agency found that Shelmerdine “may have made an unreported independent expenditure or a prohibited corporate expenditure.”

Former commissioner Bradley Smith dissented in one of the case’s early votes and blogged about the result this week. He has written that in reference to the FEC’s $250 expenditure limit, “evidence is strong that the market value of Shelmerdine’s rear quarter panel was approximately $0, give or take $249.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/a-478208~Yeas_and_Nays__Thursday__Dec__28.html

NASCAR also holds the right to deny certain sponsors or decals on cars. They have done this in the past not allowing Playboy to sponsor and they used to not allow hard liquor to sponsor. They may have an issue with Ron Paul since most of the people who own NASCAR support the Ghoul.

This is the response i got from Scanner from RPR a few minutes ago (Thanks but I think we are ok. Yates will be getting paid for the
advertising and we are looking into extras, such as donations to the
Victory Junction Gang for every lap conpleted to keep NASCAR on our side.)

jim70769
01-25-2008, 11:45 PM
#28 Travis Kvapil
? Ford
Yates Racing
new:
7065 Zephyr Place
Concord, NC 28027
(704) 706-2120
(704) 795-0259 Fax
old:
112 Byers Creek Rd.
Mooresville NC 28117
(704) 662-9625
(704) 662-7918 Fax
Website: ryr.com
Owner: Doug Yates





http://www.sponsoryates.com/


SPONSOR? have not heard much about sponsors for the #28 [was #88] or #38 Yates Racings teams. Supposedly per a Max Jones interview on Sirius Satellite Radio, the team has sponsorship in the works, the teams will be sponsored and that they are making sure the deals are what they need.(12-31-2007)


Another driver who may like RP is Robby Gordon

#7 Robby Gordon
Jim Beam, Mapei, Menards, Motorola Ford
Robby Gordon Motorsports
10615 Twin Lakes Parkway
Charlotte, NC 28269
(704) 949-1255
(704) 949-1259 Fax
Owner: Robby Gordon

runningdiz
01-25-2008, 11:45 PM
This is the response i got from Scanner from RPR a few minutes ago (Thanks but I think we are ok. Yates will be getting paid for the
advertising and we are looking into extras, such as donations to the
Victory Junction Gang for every lap conpleted to keep NASCAR on our side.)

Cool... just brought it up to double check. Hopefully they are careful with the FEC. Either they need to create a PAC or do what the blimp people did.

smartpeople4ronpaul
01-25-2008, 11:49 PM
Like it.

Walter Mellons
01-25-2008, 11:50 PM
I swear if they ignore the race car like fox does Ima be really pissed off. The race car should be an investment like a stock or something....

freedomintheusa
01-25-2008, 11:52 PM
that is why i donated,,, how can they ignore him while the event is going on

alienpyro
01-25-2008, 11:54 PM
RON PAUL racecars all over the country on every road all the time through the elections





Imagine a fleet of Ron Paul vehicles roaming high-traffic areas 24/7

First off, check out this amazing vehicle wrap:

http://www.drive4ronpaul.com/sample.jpg

Basically, we want something even sweeter than this for Ron Paul.
Here are some thumbnails of other examples:

http://www.drive4ronpaul.com/thumbs.jpg

So far we have a ton of support for this idea and roughly 500 people who have volunteered to have their car to be wrapped in completely removable vinyl for the purpose of getting Ron Paul elected. As of now we are putting the finishing touches on www.Drive4RonPaul.com, including getting it functional in IE. What we need help with right now is graphic designs/artwork for the wraps.

The adobe illustrator template can be downloaded here (http://www.drive4ronpaul.com/jeep_52.ai). It is 1 20th to scale.

Please if you have any artistic talent, download the template and see what you can come up with. Please send all your ideas to Drive4RonPaul@gmail.com.

Here are the technical specifications of what we need:

File Formats-Mac or PC

* Illustrator CS2 or below - .ai, .eps or .pdf files
* Photoshop CS2 or below - .tif, .eps. or .psd files
* InDesign CS2 or below - .indd files
* Corel Draw 12 or below - exported to Illustrator (.ai) for Mac Version
* Quark 6.0 or below - .qxd files
* Freehand and Flexi- converted to Illustrator (.ai) or .eps format

FONTS

* Please include your fonts or convert all text in your documents to outlines!

PHOTOS
* All photos should be at least 150 dpi at print size. If scanning your image, please scan it with the above settings. Larger print sizes may allow for lower resolution. Preferred file formats are .tif, .eps or .psd. Jpegs can be used but are not advised due to the data loss (during compression) associated with them. Gif and bmp files are generally unacceptable.

RGB/CMYK

* Files saved in RGB or CMYK are accepted, while CMYK is preferred. Keep your file in the color space it was created in, and don't mix the two. (IE, do not place RGB images in a CMYK document or the reverse.)

COLORS

* All specialty colors need to be clearly identified, especially PMS colors.

http://www.drive4ronpaul.com/drive4ronpaul_banner.jpg (http://www.drive4ronpaul.com)

Bluedevil
01-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Brilliant. I hope this works out soon.

Maybe the campaign can finance this? If this is only $400,000- I cant imagane a better use of money- this would get more attention than a superbowl ad. Plus it is hitting a demographic that I would expect to be very receptive to RPs message. Needs to happen soon.

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 12:05 AM
Donate at least $5 bucks ea Got to start somewhere

A. Havnes
01-26-2008, 12:10 AM
When's it going to drive?

Tolland County
01-26-2008, 12:13 AM
Nascar needs to support RP, it's in their roots -

Nascar doesn't care about it's roots - all they are concerned with is MONEY. It's why the ratings are in a three-year decline, it's why ticket and merchandise sales are down, it's why they make decisions that many fans detest. They own half of the tracks (so as to not allow a competing series to develop) and have even allowed Toyota to buy their way into the sport.

I'm all for Ron Paul's name on a car, but like millions of others I stopped watching or caring a few years back. They even control nearly all media outlets so anything resembling criticism gets stomped out quick or they lose the right to use the "NASCAR" name in their show or magazine title.

Danny Molina
01-26-2008, 12:15 AM
I bet Liberty Political Advertising could help this work.

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 12:18 AM
They just got the Chipin meter up...it will take a little while before it updates.

runningdiz
01-26-2008, 12:34 AM
I created this Ron Paul car for a NASCAR Racing computer game awhile back. Just an idea of what we can do. The car they will be running this year looks a little different though.


http://i27.tinypic.com/jr38kp.jpg

bucfish
01-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Man what an awesome idea. They were jealous of a Blimp can you imagine a race car!!!

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 01:01 AM
o DailyPaul to see all the Hipe http://www.dailypaul.com/node/29819

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 01:02 AM
great picture...

heath.whiteaker
01-26-2008, 01:08 AM
so you have 33 posts.... no contract displayed.... and expect people to donate?

You will have to go thru a PAC for this.

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 01:32 AM
I am not the owner or have anythig to do with them... Just giving my2 cents... If you have a concern. go to WWW.ronpaulracing.com CLICK on blog and Post your concerns...all i am doing is trying to help get the word out... The number of post has nothing to do with this... I will post any info i can from them that i read, i am not in direct contact... I will ask for them to give us more info on setting up a PAC or even a contract.

freedomintheusa
01-26-2008, 03:19 AM
[Admin- please note the following concern- the site says: "In the event of default the money will be donated directly to the campaign."
Said below: This can't possible happen. Maximum donation is 2500.
Discuss below.]

check out the story here [url]www.ronpaulracing.com/url] will address this with the site and post their response

If the amount you receive isn't enough how do you intend on donating it to the campaign,, when max donation is $2500.00 Just curious
Reply to this
1/26/2008 12:17 AM Anonymous wrote:
In the event of a default, our 501 3 c Deleware foundation will distribute funds to other grass roots causes that benefit the movment. (ie Air Corp, Blimp, Billboard signs.)

FunkBuddha
01-26-2008, 07:38 AM
Just got this email from my brother who is in the Charlotte meet-up.


Hey all, Scanner Scott from the Charlotte Ron Paul meetup here. Sorry about the mass email but this is huge and I need to spread this fast.

I have taken the reins of the RonPaulRacing.com site, and am now the point man on this major project. We are making updates by the minute and growing fast. You all that know me, know that I have done everything in my power to promote Dr. Paul and all the various chip-in projects to promote the good Doctors name.

After talking to Doug Yates Racing personally today we have their ok to start our donation mentioning our negociations for sponsoring the historic return of the #28 car since the passing of the late great Davey Allison. Goto www.RonPaulRacing.com and read more about this. We not only can get Ron Paul on this car, but as anyone in racing can tell you about Yates Racing, we have a major shot at winning the Daytona 500.
I know there are alot of sites with chip-ins, however, this is extremely cost effective and did I mention, we have a major shot at winning the race. The #28 was 4th in last weeks speed test at Daytona.

I am working on getting legendary Big Daddy Don Garlits to be our lead spokeman for the site and at the track, but this is all hush hush for now. wink wink. Anyone that heard him on Alex Jones the other week or saw Big Daddy's 25 reasons he supports Ron Paul that was post on Lewrockwell knows he is the man we need for this racing event.

Please goto our banner page. They just got posted minutes ago. I ask that you please pick one you like and post it on your sites and anywhere else you can to spread the word. Oh, and of course, please donate what you can. We only have 3 weeks to make this happen and every second counts. Your truely in freedom.


Peace,
Scanner Scott

Danny Molina
01-26-2008, 08:41 AM
I highly suggest the people that are starting this up fund it through the people that did the blimp. (Liberty Political Advirtising.)

Time for Change
01-26-2008, 09:27 AM
Just make it a PAC or coordinate the effort through another established source.

This is easy and very doable.

I am in...no doubt...lets do this!

mtmedlin
01-26-2008, 10:52 AM
I think many people dont understand the average nascar fan. This is a highly blindly patriotic crew that believes every country song that speaks praise about the military. It would take time for them to put down their ice cold Bud or PBR (depending on level of fan) and apply thought to the war. But just as I thought the Blimp wouldnt change much (and it hasnt....primaries dont lie) This car wont do much....except give the analyst something else to laugh at. Why dont we focus on raising hte five million that Ron needs.

mikeycapz
01-26-2008, 12:29 PM
This would be huge, nascar is the 2nd most watched sport in America behind football

the_bee
01-26-2008, 12:34 PM
I think many people dont understand the average nascar fan. This is a highly blindly patriotic crew that believes every country song that speaks praise about the military. It would take time for them to put down their ice cold Bud or PBR (depending on level of fan) and apply thought to the war. But just as I thought the Blimp wouldnt change much (and it hasnt....primaries dont lie) This car wont do much....except give the analyst something else to laugh at. Why dont we focus on raising hte five million that Ron needs.

This makes no sense

BeFranklin
01-26-2008, 12:39 PM
If the amount you receive isn't enough how do you intend on donating it to the campaign,, when max donation is $2500.00 Just curious
Reply to this
1/26/2008 12:17 AM Anonymous wrote:
In the event of a default, our 501 3 c Deleware foundation will distribute funds to other grass roots causes that benefit the movment. (ie Air Corp, Blimp, Billboard signs.)

I'm not going to donate 1 red cent to this if the money is not refunded if it doesn't happen. There is no real way to determine what happened to the money in such a case, and the donor has to get back his money. There is no reason not to do it.

Witness the Ron Paul Boxer event that did fall through, which is a likely scenerio. The people DID get their money back that had already donated.

There is already a risk in not knowing who you are dealing with this. Compounded with the fact that the deal could fall through with, and you are *guaranteed* not to get your money back, means this is a no deal.

PaultheSaint
01-26-2008, 12:47 PM
I think many people dont understand the average nascar fan. This is a highly blindly patriotic crew that believes every country song that speaks praise about the military. It would take time for them to put down their ice cold Bud or PBR (depending on level of fan) and apply thought to the war. But just as I thought the Blimp wouldnt change much (and it hasnt....primaries dont lie) This car wont do much....except give the analyst something else to laugh at. Why dont we focus on raising hte five million that Ron needs.


You never been to a Nascar race.

mtmedlin
01-26-2008, 01:16 PM
You never been to a Nascar race.

Think again, I live two hours from Daytona. I KNOW Nascar fans, and most when they hear me talk about Ron immediatly say that he is anti military. It takes a level of political involvment to understand Rons positions on the military. I have never met a single nascar fan that would take that level of involvment or time to attempt to understand. Bush won an overwhleming level of support from this group and i havent seen any numbers on this group in about 2 years, back in 2005 - 2006 they were still highly supportive of the militarys involvment in the middle east.

Time for Change
01-26-2008, 01:37 PM
don't underestimate the intellect of the nascar fan.
The days of Bubba Racing are long gone.

There are PLENTY of thinkers interested in the sport.
Viewership numbers that come close to NFL football...cant all be ignorant people.

Additionally, if the car can run the front for a while, right next to Dale Jr, Tony Stewart, Burton, Harvick, etc will get the name shown all over TV nationally.

It is a good idea...for sure

heath.whiteaker
01-26-2008, 03:03 PM
Witness the Ron Paul Boxer event that did fall through, which is a likely scenerio. The people DID get their money back that had already donated.


i made it plainly obvious that everyone would get their money back if anything happened. I just wish it would have worked out. I feel the same way about this. This guy has 33 posts or did last night. He hasn't shown an agreement yet or anything. I at least made contact with the admin of this site and had Roy Jones organization contact chip in.....

Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice
01-26-2008, 03:16 PM
I hope this works out.

The 28 car is no slouch and Robert Yates Racing is a premier team.

Signzit
01-26-2008, 05:30 PM
<Blimp> for #28 come on!

sgrooms
01-26-2008, 05:33 PM
bump

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 09:42 AM
The TV audience for the Daytona 500 will be huge and there are a lot of other televised events leading up to the race that would run this story. Practice seasons, qualifying, the twin qualifying races, SpeedTV becomes NASCARTV and has nearly 24/7 coverage. My guess is that the media will report the story and report it neutrally since the reporting will be in the context of a sports event. I understand that many NASCAR fans are 'support the troops' and 'victory at whatever costs' true believers but being on this telecast and the supporting telecasts will get the Dr Pauls name in front of many, many millions. NASCAR is the 2nd most viewed sport in America and this is NASCARs equivalent of the Super Bowl. The Daytona 500 is the one race most people watch if they only watch one stock car race.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 09:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytona_500

The Daytona 500 is regarded by many as the most important and prestigious race on the NASCAR calendar, carrying by far the largest purse. Championship points awarded are equal to that of any other Sprint Cup race. It is also NASCAR's first race of the year; this phenomenon is virtually unique in sports, which tend to have championships or other major events at the end of the season rather than the start. Since 1995, U.S. television ratings for the Daytona 500 have been the highest for any auto race of the year, surpassing the traditional leader, the Indianapolis 500. The 2006 Daytona 500 attracted the sixth largest average live global TV audience of any sporting event that year with 20 million viewers.[1]

The event serves as the final event of Speedweeks and is known as "The Great American Race" and the "Super Bowl of Stock Car Racing." It is held the third or second Sunday in February, and since 1971, has been loosely associated with Presidents Day weekend.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 09:55 AM
NASCAR, Sprint and Fox Sports will have their hype machines running in top gear for this year race....

The 2008 Super Bowl of Stock Car Racing marks the 50th running of "The Great American Race", and is scheduled to be run on Sunday, February 17, 2008, celebrating the Golden Anniversary of the first race run in 1959, won by Lee Petty. The Harley J. Earl Trophy, which goes to the winner of the race, will be plated in gold instead of silver to commemorate this event. The race is scheduled to be the first Daytona 500 run using NASCAR's Car of Tomorrow, which was introduced in 2007, and become standard as of 2008. The race also marks the first race under the "Sprint Cup" banner


www.ronpaulracing.com

heath.whiteaker
01-27-2008, 11:15 AM
still havent seen a contract.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 11:38 AM
On the www.ronpaulracing.com site's blog the latest update says the organizer will meet with the Yates Racing people on Tuesday. I'm just an observer on this and maybe I'm biased because I'm a NASCAR fan and I'd love to see Dr Paul's campaign on a car. There are risks for sure but the exposure this could get would be great if they can pull it off. They need to raise a lot more money before we would be hearing about a contract.

UtahApocalypse
01-27-2008, 11:46 AM
still havent seen a contract.

I find it Ironic that you complained constantly when you were asked to show a contract, and now your doing the same thing. I am assuming your asking as some form of retribution for how others asked you.

freedomintheusa
01-27-2008, 01:44 PM
still havent seen a contract.
As far as the Chip-in meter goes, between the chip-in and paypal sites we will have issues with the meters accuracy. Please don't let this discourage you from donating. We originally had to put up with this issue until we reached a $10k minimum for The Delaware Foundation to take over the meter, however, Ron Paul's brother Wayne Paul has offered his services as our CPA, and I couldn't think of a better man for the job. ,,,,,,, Is this good enough?
PEOPLE GO TO www.ronpaulracing.com and check out the blog and post some remarks, ?'s, suggestions,etc.. Asi have stated before i am only trying to spread the word...

freedomintheusa
01-27-2008, 01:54 PM
Lets go racing

prlgrl
01-27-2008, 01:57 PM
I think this is a great idea. I've been trying to get my husband on board with RP... I can't believe how much more interested he is since I told him about this. Now he is telling other people (about the car etc. it's a start). I think it would be great also, to tie this event in with ron paul nascar parties race day. I'm planning mine!

RonPaulFanInGA
01-27-2008, 02:04 PM
So this is the driver?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Kvapil

freedomintheusa
01-27-2008, 02:06 PM
Ron Paul's brother Wayne Paul has offered his services as our CPA, and I couldn't think of a better man for the job

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 02:28 PM
Travis Kvapil is the driver of Yates Racing's #28 car. He's a excellent young driver and the car has run very well in testing at Daytona. The statistics are all on www.nascar.com. This opportunity with Yates is really a godsend. I'm not expert on NASCAR but I know a bit and I think its very unusual for a top-flight owner to have 2 cars that finished in the previous seasons top 35 (and are thus guarinteed a starting spot in the first five races of the season) that do not have sponsors. Part of it may be due to Robert Yates turning the team over to Doug Yates, his son.

So Kvapil is a good young driver and the car will be very competitive. Sure he's not Jimmie Johnson but there's no room on his car or most of the others top drivers.

This is a restrictor plate race and its with a new car design (The Car of Tomorrow is the Car of Today) that has never raced at Daytona. Anything could happen in the race. One thing is for sure. #28 will be in that race even if it has no sponsor. It would just be so much better for us if that car was plastered with Ron Paul for President 2008. Make if happen guys.

www.ronpaulracing.com

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Ron Paul Racing's #28 car (if we make it happen) 4th on speed charts....

http://www.nascar.com/news/headlines/cup/test.speeds/index.html

Cumulative Single-Car Speeds

Pos. No. Name Make Best Time Best Speed Date
1 48A Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 48.706 184.782 1-7 AM
2 5B Casey Mears Chevrolet 48.761 184.574 1-7 AM
3 27B Jacques Villeneuve Toyota 48.792 184.456 1-8 AM
4 28B Travis Kvapil Ford 48.875 184.143 1-8 AM
...
...

Libertyiswinning
01-27-2008, 02:51 PM
I think many people dont understand the average nascar fan. This is a highly blindly patriotic crew that believes every country song that speaks praise about the military. It would take time for them to put down their ice cold Bud or PBR (depending on level of fan) and apply thought to the war. But just as I thought the Blimp wouldnt change much (and it hasnt....primaries dont lie) This car wont do much....except give the analyst something else to laugh at. Why dont we focus on raising hte five million that Ron needs.

You obviously do not watch Nascar. This would be HUGE to get Ron Paul on the 28 car. I have watched nascar for over 25 years, and I can tell you that the 28 car coming back is big, and to have Ron Paul on it is the best idea i've heard. People are not forced to look at the blimp.

All nascar fans, even the ones like myself who have quit watching it after a quarter century will watch the Daytona 500. It is the BIGGEST RACE OF THE SEASON and MANY MILLIONS will be watching this from all over the country and world.

Libertyiswinning
01-27-2008, 02:55 PM
Think again, I live two hours from Daytona. I KNOW Nascar fans, and most when they hear me talk about Ron immediatly say that he is anti military. It takes a level of political involvment to understand Rons positions on the military. I have never met a single nascar fan that would take that level of involvment or time to attempt to understand. Bush won an overwhleming level of support from this group and i havent seen any numbers on this group in about 2 years, back in 2005 - 2006 they were still highly supportive of the militarys involvment in the middle east.

You need to understand that Ron Paul is not anti-military.
He was in the military and has more military support than the other candidates. Ron Paul is anti-illegal invasion.
Sounds like its time to get the millions of nascar fans well informed.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 02:56 PM
Numbers matter to NASCAR fans. Just think of the story last year with #8 and Dale Earnhardt JR having to give it up when he left DEI. #28 has a very rich tradition and the story of #28 running again will get a lot of play and then you add on top of that the car being sponsored by grassroots supporters of a Presidential Candidate? This could be major league exposure. The race itself will draw 20-30 million viewers I think.

http://www.jayski.com/stats/winbynum.htm

Gadsden Flag
01-27-2008, 03:26 PM
When I was a kid, my dad, my sister and I were really big NASCAR fans.

Too many rule changes since then, though. None of us have really watched in in years. I didn't even watch Daytona last year.

But maybe I will this year. I'll root for the Ron Paul car.

Joseph Hart
01-27-2008, 03:29 PM
WOW! Congrats!!! I might actually watch the race now...

Heres a question for Ron Paul.

"How does it feel now that you have a Race Car in the Daytona 500?"

Send emails!!!!

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jim70769
01-27-2008, 03:31 PM
I just spent an hour e mailing all the media outlets that cover Nascar. Hopefully someone will pick this up and give some coverage. A site where you can check to see if anyone is picking it up is Jayski. That is the most visited site for Nascar news.
http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm

heath.whiteaker
01-27-2008, 03:39 PM
I find it Ironic that you complained constantly when you were asked to show a contract, and now your doing the same thing. I am assuming your asking as some form of retribution for how others asked you.

of course. I don't see anyone giving this chump any problem asking for this much money. I got all kinds of shit from many angles... yet it seems no one is giving this guy any crap.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 03:58 PM
Jayski is aware of this story. He said he'd be talking with his Yates contacts about it. I know his site is great for NASCAR information but I don't know if he runs stories himself in addition to linking to top stories on other NASCAR sites. If you contact him be very nice and say nice things about his site.

BeFranklin
01-27-2008, 04:00 PM
I have yet to see anything - contracts, who this person is, a guarantee that money will be returned if it doesn't happen.

Is this just a thread of imagine this? Thread seems like its been going on too long without anything.

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 04:07 PM
Some more email addys

Jim Rome Show : rome@haveatake.com

Fox Sports Radio personalities:
JDub@fsr247.com,
craig@fsr247.com,
jtthebrick@fsr247.com,
AndrewS@fsr247.com,
Krystal@fsr247.com,
czabe@fsr247.com

runningdiz
01-27-2008, 04:22 PM
I have yet to see anything - contracts, who this person is, a guarantee that money will be returned if it doesn't happen.

Is this just a thread of imagine this? Thread seems like its been going on too long without anything.

There is no contract yet. If you read the blog the guy is going Tuesday to have further talks with Doug Yates. The more money he has going into the talk the more leverage he will have obviously. If this specific deal does not work I am sure they could find another car or be a secondary sponsor on the car instead of a primary. The person that is heading this knows what he is doing he works in the industry as pitrcrew person for a NASCAR team. http://blog.ronpaulracing.com/ go to their blog for updates and more info.

As for the return of the 28 getting media attention I can pretty much promise you it wont. People are saying that have no clue what they are talking about. The 28 was last raced only 5 years ago by Ricky Rudd and was put away when he left and a new sponsor came along. Bringing back the number is not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. The important thing is that the car is owned by a top team in the sport and guarunteed a spot in the race.

If this does go through though the fact that Ron is on the car will get much media attention I am sure. They will think its an interesting story. This 28 car will be competitive as others have pointed out. Yates is very strong at these types of tracks. Last year the 38 M&M's car was in the top 5 on the last lap coming to the checkered flag but was caught in a wreck feet before the finish line.

Watch the video here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-hJFTZe08

jim70769
01-27-2008, 04:32 PM
I just recieved an e mail from Jayski and he says the following

"already saw that at ronpaulracing.com, my sources at Yates say
not true, waiting to see if things change after a supposed
meeting on Tuesday"

ToryNotion
01-27-2008, 04:32 PM
re: the 28 car, sure it won't get the coverage Jr at Hendrick or JGR running Toyotas gets but if you Google

'nascar 28 yates'

you''ll find stories like this

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?id=3117554

Remember SpeedTV just about goes 24/7 NASCAR leading up to the race. Thats a lot of air time to fill. It's not the same exposure that the race will get but they will be talking about the 28 car, Yates Racing w/o Robert Yates at the helm, Ron Paul Racing (knock on wood) among other things.

prlgrl
01-27-2008, 06:23 PM
bump

EotS
01-27-2008, 06:57 PM
This is 12 days after Giga-Tuesday. It doesn't seem to me that there's much bang for the buck.

BeFranklin
01-27-2008, 07:10 PM
This is 12 days after Giga-Tuesday. It doesn't seem to me that there's much bang for the buck.

Ditto. Was just thinking that beyond everything this and some other threads are annoying me because of that.

Folks, we only have 9 days left. Projects need to have an effect before that - that is the objective.

The only one I'm seeing that does on here is the super bowl ads. Considering the number of you that donated for a blimp, how about some cash for actually winning?

freedomintheusa
01-27-2008, 08:58 PM
bump

Bryan
01-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Let's keep it civil everyone. :)

Bump. :)

freedomintheusa
01-28-2008, 12:39 AM
bump

ToryNotion
01-28-2008, 09:49 AM
Posted this on the SpeedTV NASCAR message board (i'm pretty sure SpeedTV is owned by Fox)

This is my first post on the board. I am a racing fan and not seeking to disrupt. I'd just like to share with you information about a grassroots project by supporters of a 2008 Presidential Candidate to sponsor a Cup car for the Daytona 500. They are raising funds now and will soon be in negotiations with Yates Racing. This effort is not affiliated with the candidates official campaign. I'm a racing fan but I'm also interested in politics. I don't understand campaign financing laws any better than the next guy but I think it has to be done as a non-affiliated, grass roots project to be most effective. Supporters of this candidate have done the same type of thing with a Blimp using funds donated only by supporters.

If you're not interested or curious, by all means ignore this post. If you'd like more information go to

www.ronpaulracing.com

www.ronpaulblimp.com

www.ronpaul2008.com

http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=164825

ToryNotion
01-28-2008, 10:05 AM
Well my membership on that board didn't last very long.

PC_for_Paul
01-28-2008, 10:11 AM
Only one driver fits our message, only one driver shares our views, only one drive could make us proud of a Ron Paul Ride.

The answer:
Ward Burton
http://www.wardburton.com/

I shit you not people, Ward has the driver skills, and he needs a ride. Add to it the fact that he already has a huge nascar following and this could be huge.

Ward Won Daytona driving for a single car team in 01 or 02? I forget, he has been black balled from Nascar he doesn't fit the "media mold", sound familiar?

We need Ward, he's GOP, he's Honest ( sound familiar?) and he is a regular guy.

Get me Ward and I will throw money at them, anyone else, Bodine:(, or one of the other hacks and I won't even cheer for that ride.

Ward is the only available driver that would meet our hiogh standards.

Go get me Ward, you'll find him in the woods hunting some where in Virginia.

ToryNotion
01-28-2008, 10:30 AM
I like Ward Burton a lot myself (fellow Virginia bump). Since he doesn't have a top 35 (or any?) ride his entry would be a bit of a gamble. Maybe if the fund-raising goals for the Yate car are meet and theres some left over? The #28 is our best best for maximum exposure.

If any NASCAR fans want to join the SpeedTV forums and SUBTLY hype this effort please do so. My direct approach got be kicked and they have pretty strong kung fu blocking my attempt to re-register.

Put something like in your signature AFTER you've made a few posts

Help put Ron Paul for President 2008 on the #28 car
www.ronpaulracing.com

In your profile and then post to threads as a regular NASCAR fan. I'm curious to see how long before the thought police would come in.

ToryNotion
01-28-2008, 12:05 PM
ronpaulracing.com not loading. Hopefully is so many donors and not a denial of service attack or server crash.

ToryNotion
01-28-2008, 12:29 PM
site back up. bump.

rancher89
01-28-2008, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE

So far we have a ton of support for this idea and roughly 500 people who have volunteered to have their car to be wrapped in completely removable vinyl for the purpose of getting Ron Paul elected. As of now we are putting the finishing touches on www.Drive4RonPaul.com, including getting it functional in IE. What we need help with right now is graphic designs/artwork for the wraps.

QUOTE]

let us know when the site is IE compatable, thx

bobo37
01-28-2008, 01:24 PM
Great Idea lets make this happen.
Would be great to have Ron Paul as the Grand Marshall but we know that wouldn't happen

freedomintheusa
01-28-2008, 02:15 PM
bump