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pauliticalpress
01-25-2008, 04:57 AM
Bam! This is how we raise 23 Million Dollars for Ron Paul
Posted January 23rd, 2008 by TheBlandit

The Great 23 Million Dollar Paul Contest.

We will provide the medicine for what ails. What is the ailment you might ask?

Why its that nasy MSM Flu...

Y'know, the one that's been spewing out bullshit to us all these years. Networks that have been instructed not to show any hint of Ron Paul. Networks that routinely slap us in the face with a pie as it were!

My friends, I think 23 Million is a paultry sum if this is what Ron Paul is asking for in order to combat this.

We should be able to give him 50!

How you might ask? Well, I'll give you a hint. All we need to do is look at the numbers. It is a numbers game after all.

SO.

Brass tacs. We need 23 Million, that's 23 with 6 Zeros.

Lets take a look at what we as supporters have on our side, and all of our zeros...

This is how we will do it.

We have approximately 1500 meetup groups. With about 90,000 members in Ron Paul meetup groups, this works out to an average of 60 people per group. Each person in the meetup group would only need to donate an average of $255 per person.

How you say?

We shall have a contest!

A Grand Meetup Challenge that will be bigger, better than the first Great Meetup Challenge.

Imagine if we did that again?

With the numbers that we have now?

Which meetup will raise the most?

Which state will take highest state?

We will put together a website, think NBA, NFL, or CFL. All stats, all the time.

There will be awards, prizes, tears. Laughter and Joy.

If we had it over a 30 day period, that $255 amount works out to $63.75/week.

There are many ways to bring the money in.

People could sell signs, take donations. Sell memorabilia. Some may have a garage sale.

Everyone has been talking about how this is an insurmountable amount. Last time i checked though, nothing was impossible with this crowd. We raised 4 million in one day, then 6 million the next.

Heck, we can raise 2 million even when the economy is crashing.

WE CAN DO IT!

Bringing together all the Meetups in the great 23 Million Dollar Paul Challenge will be event that catapults Ron Paul to the convention, and into the White House.

If you think this is as great idea as i do, then please forward it and lets get this thing rolling!

Chris
chris@pauliticalpress.com
theblandit@hotmail.com
www.pauliticalpress.com

Mark
01-25-2008, 09:32 AM
Good idea - it works to get people working together in terms of a concerted effort with a specific challenge.

Perhaps a web page would be good to link to in order to send the message to the meetups.

Like, for "The Great 23 Million Dollar Meetup Challenge"

Deborah K
01-25-2008, 09:35 AM
I like this idea. Run with it. Everyone who is a meetup member to forward this to their group leaders.

pebcak
01-25-2008, 09:37 AM
I like this. We need to take action and start coordinating something.

pinkmandy
01-25-2008, 09:38 AM
Love it. Meetups are the way to go...who can raise the most money? Which state? Good job.

jake
01-25-2008, 09:40 AM
about time someone came up with a new idea aside from the old "moneybomb"

this just might work.

Texan4Life
01-25-2008, 09:52 AM
For one, this would need its own web site with a cool way to few the stats.

it could be done similar to how folding@home works. Have a scoreboard/ranking system that has a score listed with a user and the users team (or meetup).

ie. joeblow has donated $50, and team Coffee has $5,000 , total number of donations, avg donation size, etc.

It works great for F@H because it allows for very stiff competition and really is what drives the whole program.

I'm not sure how to accurately track the donations though

Zeeder
01-25-2008, 10:19 AM
Why don't we have a raffle? Everyone who donates the campaign gets a chance at a free car or something. It could be a campaign vehicle you get after the election. I"ve always wanted a bus.

pebcak
01-25-2008, 10:28 AM
If anyone is willing to coordinate this I can write PHP, Java, HTML, whatever. Just don't have me do graphics design. :D

gracebkr
01-25-2008, 10:31 AM
If someone gets something up about this please send the link, I am not good at this stuff.

UnitedWeStand
01-25-2008, 10:32 AM
The grand prize could be a visit from Ron Paul himself to their meetup!

heath.whiteaker
01-25-2008, 10:36 AM
what if you have reached your limit?

maeqFREEDOMfree
01-25-2008, 10:37 AM
bump bump bump

MichaelD
01-25-2008, 10:37 AM
Great idea,

Maybe we can have a prize for the person who collects the most donations,

the_bee
01-25-2008, 10:38 AM
:D If we can get this going I will donate a server :D

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-25-2008, 10:42 AM
I like the way you think. It'd stimulate mini bombs, small moneybombs from individual meetup groups.

Also include the state option though, most donations come from people who are not in any meetup group and you don't want to exclude them from the fun and the action.

Maybe you could make it as such that a person who makes a donation selects up to three rolldown menus. The first one indicates what state the person is in, the second one what region/city he is in, and the third one indicates what Meetup (if any) the person is in (cq what meetup group he endorses ?). All three should be optional and not mandatory IMO.

It could be really awesome I agree and it'd most certainly give a boost to the donation drive. Minibombs would be the hit of 2008 whereas nationwide moneybombs were the hit of 2007.

I really really like it and think your idea is absolutely fantastic. Hope you can find some people to help you out with the programming, let's bump this thread and brainstorm on further specifications until you do.

two thumbs up!

Alopederii
01-25-2008, 10:43 AM
For one, this would need its own web site with a cool way to few the stats.

it could be done similar to how folding@home works. Have a scoreboard/ranking system that has a score listed with a user and the users team (or meetup).

ie. joeblow has donated $50, and team Coffee has $5,000 , total number of donations, avg donation size, etc.

It works great for F@H because it allows for very stiff competition and really is what drives the whole program.

I'm not sure how to accurately track the donations though

You forgot to plug Ron Paul's Folding@Home team. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=51522 has the info about Folding@Home if anyone wants to join. You can help Ron Paul's name recognition, and science!

Sorry Chris (pauliticalpress), I didn't mean to hijack your thread. Great idea! Any YouTube video makers out there who want to make viral videos promoting this?

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-25-2008, 10:45 AM
what if you have reached your limit?

Then you can get a giant temporary tattoo on your back saying "Ron Paul 2008" instead.

Just messing with you, no hard feelings :p

thegr8drronpaul
01-25-2008, 10:47 AM
The grand prize could be a visit from Ron Paul himself to their meetup!

I know Ron's a bit busy these days, but honestly this would make me go ALL out. This would be unbelievable and Ron just might do this!

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-25-2008, 10:53 AM
By the way, since this site will run alongside the official campaign and not through the official campaign I think that you should include foreigners in your donations. You do need to put up a disclaimer that any foreign donations will be used to promote a number of grassroot projects instead of the official campaign. This will stimulate your foreign supporters to donate more to the projects and you have got significant foreign support (thank YouTube for that).

It could help proven grassroot projects like the Ron Paul air force and Operation brodcast freedom a.o.

Eric21ND
01-25-2008, 10:59 AM
Why don't we have a raffle? Everyone who donates the campaign gets a chance at a free car or something. It could be a campaign vehicle you get after the election. I"ve always wanted a bus.

I like the idea of giving away prizes, for added incentive.

Eric21ND
01-25-2008, 11:01 AM
1. You need a really nice webpage designed for this.

2. You need to make some exciting/emotional youtube videos to go viral and spread your idea.

Kombaiyashii
01-25-2008, 11:10 AM
This idea is the best I've seen.

Just think, all the other republicans are having money problems, imagine if we manage 23MILLION! It would be absolutely jaw droppingly insane.

It is on.

enjerth
01-25-2008, 11:30 AM
Ron Paul Pancakes? Freedom Pancakes? A meet-up group fundraiser where you offer a pancake breakfast?

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Bump for a nice idea

Lou337
01-25-2008, 11:36 AM
bump! make it happen! time's a-wastin!

thegr8drronpaul
01-25-2008, 11:37 AM
OP, can you put this together with help? I don't have the tech experience, but I encourage you to follow through - this would be great :)

dblee
01-25-2008, 11:41 AM
this is an excellent idea, we need to get moving on it fast though, feb 5th is fast approaching!

imagine what the campaign could do with that kind of money!

DealzOnWheelz
01-25-2008, 11:49 AM
bump what a great idea

heath.whiteaker
01-25-2008, 11:54 AM
So is this running thru the campaign or alongside it? Who are the donations going to? I will help do whatever I can like putting together a web page or whatever is needed. Just let me know.

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-25-2008, 12:51 PM
So much crap on this forum does get discussed and yet this very nice thread which for once doesn't try to set an unoriginal and sure to fail new moneybomb date (whereas every possible date has been proposed by someone trying to boost their own ego by now) slips away to page 3... bump

m72mc
01-25-2008, 12:53 PM
do it now

BeallCanbe
01-25-2008, 01:22 PM
like the idea of dividing the big number into bite size ...

Go for it.

manny
01-25-2008, 01:44 PM
bump

Great! The competitive nature of this - between states etc. - is probably the best part.

People have mentioned having some nice graphics to show totals etc.

Another good point could be to have average donations per person or total number of donors etc. - this would mean those who had already hit the 2300 limit to participate by trying to encourage others to donate, increasing their state's number.

Anyone who onderstands web site design going to take a stab at this?

pebcak
01-25-2008, 01:45 PM
OP, we need to get a team together to start working on this. We already have someone willing to donate a server and I'm willing to help write code. If we can get a few more web developers on board we can pull this off.

LandonCook
01-25-2008, 01:49 PM
Bump for thought

Jae0
01-25-2008, 01:56 PM
This is one of the best ideas i've seen.

pkoury
01-25-2008, 02:00 PM
Anyone working on this yet?

Sey.Naci
01-25-2008, 02:01 PM
OK, so what to call it? I'll start with the suggestions:

The Ron Paul $23,000,000 Meet-Up Challenge

Once a name has been decided, the mods should be asked to create a sub-forum for this effort.

amy31416
01-25-2008, 02:02 PM
I really like this idea a lot and I hope that we could possibly get rid of all the other "bomb" fundraisers and just replace it with this one. There's so much going on that it's distracting.

We need one main focus for fundraising.

One main focus for precinct leaders.

One main focus for actions we should take (like registration, delegates, etc.)

I'm sure I missed a few things, but a little order in the chaos would be GREAT!

MrAustin
01-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Excellent idea! We need to do this! I hope someone is working on it already. BUMMMMP!!!!

sgrooms
01-25-2008, 02:10 PM
bump

pebcak
01-25-2008, 02:54 PM
CALLING ALL WEB DEVELOPERS:

Make your voice heard if you're willing to work on this with me. I'm in. Time is short so a lot of help and coordination would be needed.

pebcak
01-25-2008, 03:09 PM
bump

gracebkr
01-25-2008, 03:14 PM
Should just be a visit from Ron Paul. That is incentive enough, he can speak at a public place or something whee the entire meetup gets to be with him. No cars or money. We should not be spending money on that, we should all want the money to go to getting him elected. I like the raffle idea better, for the group, not one person. This way it is a group effort. If we simply give the group with the most money, then that's not fair for those of us who live in rural areas. I think if we should figure out 255.00 per person in each group, then that total will be the goal. Those groups that come with 75% of this goal or more qualifies for the raffle.

RobS
01-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Should just be a visit from Ron Paul. That is incentive enough, he can speak at a public place or something whee the entire meetup gets to be with him. No cars or money. We should not be spending money on that, we should all want the money to go to getting him elected. I like the raffle idea better, for the group, not one person. This way it is a group effort. If we simply give the group with the most money, then that's not fair for those of us who live in rural areas. I think if we should figure out 255.00 per person in each group, then that total will be the goal. Those groups that come with 75% of this goal or more qualifies for the raffle.

FEC is so dumb though... they might sue for doing to much with the grassroots.

If it wasn't an issue I like that idea though. And for the top 10 Meetup groups could do signed books/constitutions.

prlgrl
01-25-2008, 03:37 PM
The grand prize could be a visit from Ron Paul himself to their meetup!

Now that is a great idea!

pebcak
01-25-2008, 03:44 PM
FEC is so dumb though... they might sue for doing to much with the grassroots.

If it wasn't an issue I like that idea though. And for the top 10 Meetup groups could do signed books/constitutions.

Good point. This might be hard / illegal to coordinate. But I don't like the idea of a physical item which costs money as a prize. I almost feel that getting to see the ticker go up, and the competition among groups is good enough.

pebcak
01-25-2008, 04:55 PM
bump

gpickett00
01-25-2008, 05:02 PM
This needs to be sticky quicky

UnitedWeStand
01-25-2008, 06:03 PM
bump=)>

pebcak
01-25-2008, 06:21 PM
Sticky this please. I think a lot of us are willing to go forward with this.

UnitedWeStand
01-25-2008, 08:52 PM
bump=)

BeFranklin
01-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Bump

Sey.Naci
01-25-2008, 09:18 PM
Suggest that this thread be referenced under a new thread in the Operation $23M (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=249) sub-forum. Title the thread something like "The Ron Paul $23M Meet-Up Challenge." Also, rate up this and the new thread to five stars.

literatim
01-25-2008, 09:31 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me.

tjasond
01-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Programmer reporting in. Also, maybe we can get the ronpaulgraphs.com guy to hook us up with some snazzy graphs. PM me if you need a hand.

On a side note, the 255 dollar amount got met thinking a little; 2^8 = 256. In base 2, this is 8 bits (1 byte) with all bits set to 1 represented as "FF" or "1111 1111". Is this relevant? Not really, but maybe it could inspire some of our creative folks to come up with something catchy to promote this drive. I know it's way out there, but that's also how some of the best ideas get started.

Brainsnake
01-25-2008, 10:09 PM
what if you have reached your limit?

Then give another supporter, who has not yet reached their limit, money to donate on your behalf. :)

Brainsnake
01-25-2008, 10:17 PM
We need a sticky for this!!!

Sey.Naci
01-25-2008, 10:19 PM
Then xxxx .... :)That's illegal. Suggest you edit your post pronto.

Brainsnake
01-25-2008, 10:28 PM
That's illegal. Suggest you edit your post pronto.

I don't understand why thats illegal?

What I mean is give someone a gift of say $100 and just suggest that they then make a donation to Ron Paul. Its now their money and they can donate it if they want as long as they have not reached their limit.

pauliticalpress
01-25-2008, 10:29 PM
Ground has been broken
On January 25th, 2008 pauliticalpress says:

Ok, I talked with Scott and his programmer friend and it looks like we can make a go of this project! My backend team is now in contact with the programing people and we will work together to weave together a website to raise $23 million dollars for the good doctor.

We are all doing this "Pro bono publico" !

This is an open source project and anyone can help out anyway they can.

If you would like to help out please contact me @ james@pauliticalpress.com

or Scott @ sl6886@yahoo.com

Thank you! together we can make anything happen.

www.pauliticalpress.com

AlexK
01-25-2008, 10:32 PM
Isn't it a bit too late for this? On Feb 5th we'll pretty much know whether we're still in the game or not.

Sey.Naci
01-25-2008, 10:34 PM
I don't understand why thats illegal?

What I mean is give someone a gift of say $100 and just suggest that they then make a donation to Ron Paul. Its now their money and they can donate it if they want as long as they have not reached their limit.This has been discussed before. It's illegal, against FEC rules, and people have been charged for doing it.

evadmurd
01-25-2008, 10:40 PM
I say build it and they will come (donate).

pauliticalpress
01-25-2008, 10:47 PM
we need to get the pauliticalpress moving

please support us at www.pauliticalpress.com

we can do anything as long as we do it together!

www.pauliticalpress.com

Brainsnake
01-25-2008, 10:58 PM
This has been discussed before. It's illegal, against FEC rules, and people have been charged for doing it.

I just read through the FEC rules on donations. It prohibits solicited donations. So technically you could just loan or give a friend some money and as long as you don't tell him what to do with it, you are breaking no laws.

BTW for both the Tea Party and MLK money bomb, I gave money to a family member and told them to donate it on my behalf as I don't have a credit card. So I guess I am now a criminal :rolleyes:

dawnbt
01-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Bump!

pinkmandy
01-25-2008, 11:10 PM
bump

pauliticalpress
01-25-2008, 11:34 PM
Don't worry about the timing of this project and super Tuesday!

We must remember that most of the delegates will be lost as more time goes on after super Tuesday when the other candidates drop out of the race!

So we must do what we can now!!! and not hesitate!!!

Take action now give to the campaign or to a project working to educate the people about the freedom movement.

www.pauliticalpress.com help us hijack the media!!! please donate today

EyesOfTime
01-25-2008, 11:35 PM
bump

lly4now
01-25-2008, 11:35 PM
Bump. And please sticky this!

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 01:22 AM
Thanx for the bumps guys!!

I will get this done right done for us!

Mini-Me
01-26-2008, 01:45 AM
This may be the most important thread on this site at the moment, so I want to bump it.

However, I'm a little bit confused by some of the replies to this thread - this is meant to be money donated directly to the campaign, correct? If so, how will the donations be made, and how will they be kept track of? Will the programmers for the project website be able to include a donation mechanism that keeps track of donations but [verifiably!!!] sends them to the campaign - all without violating FEC rules?

ClockwiseSpark
01-26-2008, 01:48 AM
This may be the most important thread on this site at the moment, so I want to bump it.

However, I'm a little bit confused by some of the replies to this thread - this is meant to be money donated directly to the campaign, correct? If so, how will the donations be made, and how will they be kept track of? Will the programmers for the project website be able to include a donation mechanism that keeps track of donations but [verifiably!!!] sends them to the campaign - all without violating FEC rules?

I think this is a great idea but I'm a little confused as well. This seems like it would be very difficult to track.

Ex Post Facto
01-26-2008, 01:49 AM
I guess it could be pledge based, per meet up group.

Peterjar
01-26-2008, 02:05 AM
This is exactly how we should start to think about raising money. Not to get media attention but as fostering collective action among supporters.

I posted before about the concept in Chemistry and Physics called "emergence". The idea is that the properties of a system are not the sum of the individual parts, but rather, they "emerge" from the collective interaction of these parts. Think of how a soap bubble refracts light. Water does not behave this way until it is organized into a sphere, for example, by the surfactants (soap) and the result is a pretty image. With regards to money bombs, they create an intensity and excitement about donating among supporters, both new and old, that garners more money than would be contributed otherwise. The amazing thing is that it is almost impossible to predict these outcomes from the properties of the individual coponents. This is our secret weopon. There is no MSM analyst who can guess what we will do next or how successful it may be. Lets hit them hard. Lets be a super-duper monstrious RP bubble that bounces all over these mofos.


Peter

Peterjar
01-26-2008, 02:08 AM
I think this is a great idea but I'm a little confused as well. This seems like it would be very difficult to track.


Each donation has a tracking number. Its simple. We collect names and tracking numbers. Although some people belong to multiple meetup groups, but we can live with this inaccuracy dont you think.

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 02:13 AM
I have 2 programmers working on linking all the Ron Paul meetup groups and a site tracking the donations to the offical campaign coffers! all we are doing is creating a web site that will track the money to see who wins by state meetup group so we can have a contest.

The Ron Paul campaign will plug in our programing and they will send us the data of where the donations are coming from and then the site will tally each donations to the meetup group and state it came from so we can have us a race...:)

Thats the plan!

xCakex
01-26-2008, 02:16 AM
Blimp! Our grassroots unity will change the world.

DFF
01-26-2008, 02:16 AM
Competition is a helluva motivator.

So this is a great idea.

If we do this, we can maybe make HQ's goal reality but definitely reach $23 million for the quarter.

So I'm behind this "raw" concept 100%.

Somebody *sticky* this and let's all unite behind it. :)

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 02:25 AM
Yes Peterjar thats is exactly what Chris and I were thinking when we came up with this idea..a real open source money storm that never really stops raining!

Even after the race is over we are still a crystallized movement able to do amazing things in the future to change this country for the better.

ST0PandL00K
01-26-2008, 02:32 AM
Love This Idea

BigRedBrent
01-26-2008, 02:37 AM
For one, this would need its own web site with a cool way to few the stats.

it could be done similar to how folding@home works. Have a scoreboard/ranking system that has a score listed with a user and the users team (or meetup).

ie. joeblow has donated $50, and team Coffee has $5,000 , total number of donations, avg donation size, etc.

It works great for F@H because it allows for very stiff competition and really is what drives the whole program.

I'm not sure how to accurately track the donations though



OMG, the official ronpaul2008.com web sight must add a way to donate to the campaign with some sort of tagged tracking links for meetup groups!


I added this thread:

Donation Tracking of Meetup Group Numbers
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1084567

newyearsrevolution08
01-26-2008, 02:43 AM
I can get the word out to a ton of rp supporters as I have my email list already from my previous money bomb that I did. I can email trevor about this as well. When is this getting setup and when is an estimated completion date.

All that is needed is to get ahold of every meetup group leader and let them know what is going on. It will spread from there especially if there is a leaderboard. No one wants to be shown as the loser and everyone will fight to be the winner.

This will allow meetup groups to odds are get new members so they too can donate and also get their "lazy" meetup members to cough up some cash and help out the cause.

Get this going, get some banners and I will make sure it is on all the forums, ron paul sites, money bomb sites and get the word out to as many meetup group leaders that I know and who know others.

I love this idea and am SICK of the money bombs lol,

tell someone they need to donate $250 and they say ouch, tell them to donate $60 a week and they say hmmmn thats doable.... For those who are maxed, you can use your email code that you can enter into the donations page to track them as long as it gets discussed with HQ, you can get event codes and a ref code. It is not hard to do and would be easy to track as it looks like hq already tracks donations.

DFF
01-26-2008, 02:56 AM
A meetup scoreboard would be awesome. It would bring out the competitive nature in everyone.

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 02:58 AM
Yes BigRedBrent and newyears..:) this is the essence of my idea and I am happy others are seeing the vision.

I have 2 programmers and a web designer working on this and anyone with skills can join in with ideas or time spent getting it done, maybe we should have a conference call so we can all collaborate and pull all the talent together so we can make this thing go faster.

Anyone know of a free conference call service we can use sometime this weekend?

Lets show them dirty bastards in Washington how to raise real money with out spending a dime....they will look like the jack asses they are!

lets see CNN and fox news ignore 23 million baby!

www.pauliticalpress.com

lets change the game!

dvictr
01-26-2008, 02:59 AM
70 dollars a week everyone in the grassroots.. +

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 03:14 AM
The site will basically be a big map of the US with expandable states you scroll over to see the stats of each meetup group and a big running meter showing the front runners.

any other suggestions would be great!

James@pauliticalpress.com

defcreative
01-26-2008, 03:26 AM
The site will basically be a big map of the US with expandable states you scroll over to see the stats of each meetup group and a big running meter showing the front runners.

any other suggestions would be great!

James@pauliticalpress.com

My site, thebonfire.com is going to be launching soon. Our architechure may just be able to handle that exact thing, except using google maps with pins representing each meetup group. The pins could be color coded based on the rank that they are currently in with special pins for the top 3 meetup groups. There could also be additional graphs based on different things like states, totals raised, maybe even by individuals.

We would be more then happy to sponsor this type of an event.


Go here for details to see what I'm creating: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=82842

BigRedBrent
01-26-2008, 03:33 AM
The site will basically be a big map of the US with expandable states you scroll over to see the stats of each meetup group and a big running meter showing the front runners.

any other suggestions would be great!

James@pauliticalpress.com

I added this thread:

Donation Tracking of Meetup Group Numbers
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1084567



I updated my previous post since I discovered that no form of registration is required to do this. The official donation sight would only need to store the meetup group numbers given by the donors. Then allow access to this information in some useful way.

I think the official campaign web sight will need to work with us on this in some way so we can have them store this useful information when people donate to them.

How are you going to verify the statistics and in what way will people donate to make sure the statistics are accurate?

Probably should just go by what meetup group number is given and not require registration at all. This would simplify things.

When you donate on the official campaign web sight it should ask you what meetup group number you are a member of if any. This would be brilliant and simpler to implement for them. Then they could add a search ability to look up donation records for meetup groups.

The fist thing they need to do is add an option to add a meetup group number to the official donation page. Then make it so a tagged link will automatically fill the number in for those who use the link. Just like the links they use that fill in the referrers email to join as a precinct leader.

UnitedWeStand
01-26-2008, 03:34 AM
I really love this idea. Ive been thinking about a previous posters comment about he couldnt compete because his meetup group is in a rural area.Maybe two winners an urban one and a rural one?

TulsaRevolution
01-26-2008, 03:34 AM
Meetup is full of a bunch of duplicate members that sign up for local and abroad groups. Sorry to be a party pooper.

UnitedWeStand
01-26-2008, 03:38 AM
This also encourages people to mention the importance of donating to the campaign. Its a touchy subject asking people for money.

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 03:40 AM
That wont effect anything at all! its by group not by person so it wont matter, its a race of meetup groups.

Cheers

UnitedWeStand
01-26-2008, 03:41 AM
Meetup is full of a bunch of duplicate members that sign up for local and abroad groups. Sorry to be a party pooper.

Since you'd be able to enter your meetup number, you could choose the one you wanted to benefit. People abroad wouldn't be able to donate anyway.

BigRedBrent
01-26-2008, 03:55 AM
Meetup is full of a bunch of duplicate members that sign up for local and abroad groups. Sorry to be a party pooper.

It don't matter, you just pick one meetup group number per donation. It may be a tough choice for some but it is better then no meetup group tracking at all.

It would be useful information even if no one is breaking any totals.

People are competitive by nature and I think this would give the campaign a boost.

Enter
01-26-2008, 03:56 AM
I really hope this message somehow reaches the campaign.


Focus your energy on Older People. Please.


They are the biggest voters. Bring assurance to them. Make sure they know they are going to be taken care of. The young crowd is taken care of at this point. Grassroots projects are making sure of that. We NEED the older vote. THEY get out to the polls in MASS.

I'm 23. Politicians don't take people my age or younger seriously. I saw Kinky Friedman attempt an amazing run at Texas Governor, but he focused most of his attention on the young vote, hoping to get them out and vote. Even with the massive amount of online support he had, he came in 4th. The sad truth is there are way more young people who will not vote than we think. Our ONLY hope for this election is the Older vote.


I urge all supporters of Ron Paul to get out and talk to "Old" people.

I urge the Ron Paul campaign to focus a lot more energy on getting an older demographic of voters.


look up the stats. we've got the young and it is growing all the time. It's time to get the golden age on our side!

spread the message.

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 04:09 AM
organize Senior Citizens voting trips!

Go down to the local Senior Citizens home and start preaching the word or better yet start a meetup and get volunteers to work with older people.

or

Work with retiree groups in your community to organize voting field trips of sorts or hell take them all out the the pub after...lol what ever gets it done.

Its a good idea!

Derek Johnson
01-26-2008, 04:09 AM
I'm in!

BigRedBrent
01-26-2008, 04:29 AM
I added this thread:

Donation Tracking of Meetup Group Numbers
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1084567

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 05:01 AM
We are also looking into seeing if this can be done easily with Facebook and myspace too!

Kaneda
01-26-2008, 05:13 AM
BUMP for importance and sticky

DFF
01-26-2008, 05:54 AM
BUMP for importance and sticky

QFT!

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 07:23 AM
Thank for the bumps! lets make this thing go full sticky :eek:

Brainsnake
01-26-2008, 08:27 AM
Bump for 5 million!!!

DFF
01-26-2008, 10:07 AM
*BUMP* for a great thread.

lly4now
01-26-2008, 10:08 AM
Bump!

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 10:16 AM
thanx yoda for all the support

lly4now
01-26-2008, 10:31 AM
Bump

koft
01-26-2008, 10:53 AM
bump for sticky

boondoggle
01-26-2008, 11:18 AM
blimp . . . How's this coming along?

Jeremy
01-26-2008, 11:20 AM
bump

JustAnAmerican
01-26-2008, 11:27 AM
Bump. Genius. Sheer genius.

lly4now
01-26-2008, 12:44 PM
Bump

Jeremy
01-26-2008, 12:45 PM
bump

lly4now
01-26-2008, 01:22 PM
Bump

newyearsrevolution08
01-26-2008, 01:39 PM
Make sure and pm me about this so I can get the word out to the many email lists I have and meetup leaders. This is the best thing I have heard since the first mention of the money bomb. It brings WEEKLY money, if not daily money to the campaign nonstop without slowing down donations for a "specific" day.

Best idea, I just hope there are those in this group who can get it done a.s.a.p.

cant wait to see how this goes. Imagine after everyone is broke after super tuesday and ron paul is still gaining speed on the donations. He could end up running ads all on his own with this sort of donation style.

MrAustin
01-26-2008, 01:43 PM
Or a sub-forum!!!!!! Please!!!!

Kaneda
01-26-2008, 02:25 PM
BUMP for importance and sticky

lly4now
01-26-2008, 03:24 PM
Bump

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 05:27 PM
they really should make this a sticky post!!!

lets have a sticky rally!!!

Mass stickieness I say!!!! :eek:

Sey.Naci
01-26-2008, 05:38 PM
they really should make this a sticky post!!!

lets have a sticky rally!!!

Mass stickieness I say!!!! :eek:Have you requested this in the Forum Feedback and Ideas (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=193) forum? That's the best way to get the admins' attention.

UnitedWeStand
01-26-2008, 05:56 PM
bumpy

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 05:59 PM
good thinking I will get right on it!!!:D

Kathleen_Hanover
01-26-2008, 06:00 PM
Hi everybody! This is my inaugural post...so I'll try to make it a good one. :)

I think I've read all the messages, and if this has already be addressed, I apologize.

Has someone done a "reality check" on the legalities of:

1. Raising campaign funds for Ron Paul in various ways (bake sales, rummage sales, etc.) and aggregating them (what McCain-Feingold reporting requirements are there?)

2. Sponsoring a multi-state "game of skill" (i.e. a Meetups contest) ?

I'm just discovering for myself how truly onerous McCain-Feingold is. Is there an elections attorney advising grassroots folks on these issues?

And secondly, I used to work for a marketing company that managed sweepstakes and contests for clients. These kinds of things are heavily regulated in many states, and it's very easy to inadvertently break anti-gambling laws. (And yeah, when your church hosts a Monte Carlo night or your service club raffles off prizes for a fundraiser, it's very possible they're technically breaking the law.)

I know the beauty of the grassroots RP Revolution is the speed with which new ideas can be acted upon. But since I do PR and marketing for a living, I'm always thinking "worst case scenario." I want to be sure that a nationwide effort such as this won't turn into a PR disaster if it's not run 100% according to the letter of the law.

As I said, thanks to people like John McCain, it's very easy to break the law out of ignorance.

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 06:19 PM
First of all, we are not doing anything that is not already being done!!! all donations will go directly to the campaign! all we are doing is tracking where the money is coming from via a website connected to the meetup site and the RP campaign site.

SIMPLE!

pauliticalpress
01-26-2008, 08:51 PM
OK the code is in I hear and we are doing a mock up...I will keep you all informed

so bump this post till it goes sticky!!!!!!!

we may need some talent from others in the forums so if we are on the front page it makes things better for our timeline to get this project done!

Thanx guys

Drea
01-26-2008, 08:53 PM
bump

DFF
01-26-2008, 09:07 PM
they really should make this a sticky post!!!

*STICKY*

UnitedWeStand
01-26-2008, 11:19 PM
bump

Brainsnake
01-26-2008, 11:28 PM
Bump!
We need a Sticky please

dima7b
01-27-2008, 12:18 AM
bump

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 02:01 AM
yet another bump

DFF
01-27-2008, 02:05 AM
*BUMP* for a great thread.

gpickett00
01-27-2008, 04:57 AM
whoa, sticky please

DFF
01-27-2008, 08:51 AM
Right!

lly4now
01-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Bump

gpickett00
01-27-2008, 01:09 PM
hump

Joseph Hart
01-27-2008, 01:37 PM
If anyone is willing to coordinate this I can write PHP, Java, HTML, whatever. Just don't have me do graphics design. :D

I could help with graphic design also some basic coding

lly4now
01-27-2008, 02:18 PM
bump

Joseph Hart
01-27-2008, 06:18 PM
The Great American Ron Paul Meetup! Just and Idea
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/Organjic/GAM.jpg

Sey.Naci
01-27-2008, 06:20 PM
Add the word Challenge below MeetUp.

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Excellent work brother:)

lets use it!

james@pauliticalpress.com

Joseph Hart
01-27-2008, 07:40 PM
Its just a concpet for the site. Do you want to Illustrator file?

lly4now
01-27-2008, 08:14 PM
Bump

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 08:22 PM
yes please do and if you could please include the word challenge.

we love it!

Sey.Naci
01-27-2008, 08:28 PM
Yes, it is a beautiful design and good, clean layout. Just move the whole foreground up to make room for 'Challenge' below the word MeetUp.

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Please send the graphic to James@randomink.com

or


james@pauliticalpress.com


Cheers!

Joseph Hart
01-27-2008, 08:30 PM
sent to 2nd email

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 08:43 PM
<a href="http://www.pauliticalpress.com/"><img src="http://www.pauliticalpress.com/images/animation.gif" alt="pauliticalpress.com" width="150" height="130" border="0" /></a>

pauliticalpress
01-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Thank you sir..:)

lly4now
01-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Bump

UnitedWeStand
01-28-2008, 12:06 AM
though most of us have read this thread by now I hope, bump=)

pauliticalpress
01-28-2008, 12:40 AM
Ok here is the update!! Launch day is Monday Night, That means we will have just a welcome or coming soon page with the plan spelled out!

We had our conference call tonight with all the programmers and data people and it looks like it will take a week or so to build the whole site (god willing) with full cooperations from meetup and the RP campaign!

So we are 72 hours in and we have a clear path to our goal!

Thank you all for all the bumps.


Tomorrow I will announce the out sourced work we are going to need done, so stay tune, so far I know we are going to need a FLASH wizard and someone to set up our reoccurring mail system.

I will have more details Monday.


James@pauliticalpress.com

koft
01-28-2008, 01:20 AM
bump for sticky

DFF
01-28-2008, 08:47 AM
*bump'd*

Christopher
01-28-2008, 09:51 AM
Bumping this post-

This is the best idea yet to bring the needed money in for the campaign.

Chris

Exarel
01-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Great idea, bump

gpickett00
01-28-2008, 03:56 PM
bump

Peterjar
01-28-2008, 04:26 PM
Meetup is full of a bunch of duplicate members that sign up for local and abroad groups. Sorry to be a party pooper.

If one wants to spread out their donations to different groups what's wrong with that? I think everyone has a home group and they would contribute with that number anyway.

pauliticalpress
01-28-2008, 06:17 PM
Ok we need someone who is really good in FLASH!! so if anyone is a flash wizard please get ahold of me @ james@pauliticalpress.com

techxplosion
01-28-2008, 06:42 PM
bump

Blythexo
01-28-2008, 08:07 PM
bump bump
what's sticky mean? :)

This is a great idea!

pauliticalpress
01-28-2008, 09:51 PM
we are plugging away now should be done with in an hour or so ....stay tuned

Sorry so late we are working after hours of our regular jobs!

MrAustin
01-28-2008, 10:15 PM
Bump...

dcatman
01-28-2008, 10:47 PM
Gonna get my meetup group to get in on this one!

techxplosion
01-28-2008, 11:00 PM
bump

pauliticalpress
01-28-2008, 11:25 PM
Its up to us to get the word to all the meet up groups!

We must make this viral!

lly4now
01-29-2008, 01:05 AM
Bump

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 01:33 AM
any second now! just waiting for the music to finish down loading and we will have a web site!

DFF
01-29-2008, 04:27 AM
*bump*

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 04:47 AM
OK so we got a little ambitious tonight and went a bit overboard but made a amazing flash page you guys are going to love!

I don't want to give anything away, but this pages is really kick ass, so stay tuned and I will announce the URL just as soon as we tweak out a few more bugs!

Its 2:43am and I am just getting to bed so I will tell everyone tomorrow on the ronpaulforums.com first the url to the meetup challenge site and we can then all spread the word together.

~J

Brian Bailey
01-29-2008, 03:48 PM
bump for a progress update on this nifty project

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 03:51 PM
I can't wait to see the site!

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 03:57 PM
Just having trouble with the flash! but I think I have it now....man the teaser page is really sweet , now its just a matter of time before we get the datebase up and running with the kind help of the other volunteers in the project!

Is there a flash expert out there??? we sure could use a flash master for the main site.

~james

Dutch_in_Hanoi
01-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Great work guys. eager to see what you'll come up with!

koft
01-29-2008, 04:13 PM
bump for the sticky

Mark
01-29-2008, 08:00 PM
so what's bump?

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 08:21 PM
bump

Jeremy
01-29-2008, 08:22 PM
Is this planned to start Feb 1st? (day of moneybomb)

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 08:32 PM
Ok its done! finely and I am loading it up to the server now! We are loading the teaser page and the main site will be up in a few day, God willing.

I will announce the URL address shorty after I test it! give me a few minuets!

~J

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 08:35 PM
Oh and make sure you speakers are turned up loud.....:)

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 08:54 PM
http://www.ronpaulmeetupchallenge.com/

OK theres the teaser page! I still have some bugs to workout in the flash....but thats about the best I can do on short notice.

James

james@pauliticalpress.com

nc4rp
01-29-2008, 09:04 PM
looks great. it took like 3 minutes to load though. and whats with teh screaming guy? you might consider appealing to a little wider audience. great work!

Sey.Naci
01-29-2008, 09:07 PM
looks great. it took like 3 minutes to load though. and whats with teh screaming guy? you might consider appealing to a little wider audience. great work!Loved the teaser, but please turn the volume down for oldies like me (we tend not to like loud music). I also didn't like the screaming part; music was great though.

Jeremy
01-29-2008, 09:10 PM
taking way too long to load :/

Jeremy
01-29-2008, 09:12 PM
hm, upload it to YT when the actual site is ready =)

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 09:14 PM
fixing

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 09:15 PM
yes we are going to edit the vocals out....I knew i forgot something....lol

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 09:32 PM
loading... what is the size of it?.......loaded

Freaking awesome!

love the music (little loud) what song it is?

Maybe to improve loading time lower the music quality? and/or use only a clip of the song and loop it. (since you are going to take out vocals anyway)

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 09:40 PM
What can be done about the performance of it? It seems to lag a little. I'm using firefox (2.0.0.11) with flash player 9 on a 2Ghz AMD, 1GB ram, and 128MB vid card. and when I have it pulled up firefox is using 85-100% cpu.

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 09:54 PM
The song is Dropkick Murphys "Im shipping off to Boston"

strange its loading in 2 sec for me and played really well for me too....hmmmm i will look into it for you guys.

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 10:19 PM
thanks... I tested the loading again (cleared cache) and it took about 2min 10 sec at about 15-20KB/sec... not as slow as I thought the first time (probably because I was excited. lol) and no loading screen to monitor progress... though I assume that will be in the final version.


and the speed limitation is me, not the server.


Just giving my 2 cents for what its worth (not trying to nag or anything)... and to keep the awesome project bumped :)

koft
01-29-2008, 10:24 PM
intel core 2 duo on macbook and it's rocking and looks damn nice. Loads in 5 seconds.

Mark
01-29-2008, 10:57 PM
2-4 seconds load - Rocks! FireFox 3.0 Beta 1 - many many tabs open for a couple of days - Win XP SP2 - 128 Vid RAM - Cable Net - Very Smooth

Texan4Life
01-29-2008, 11:14 PM
I guess I just suck then. lol... or Iv had to much vodka.

BIZUMP!

pauliticalpress
01-29-2008, 11:16 PM
hey thanx guys I am happy you all like it:)

I still need a flash guy and someone to host a forum on the new site


http://www.ronpaulmeetupchallenge.com/

Expatriate
01-29-2008, 11:44 PM
Somebody sticky this please. It's an excellent plan!

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 12:09 AM
If you guys really like my work please help support us @ www.pauliticalpress.com

We can all hijack the press together!

http://www.pauliticalpress.com/wallpaper/1024_MonkeyBusiness.jpg

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 04:15 AM
Does anyone know FLASH? we need a guru if this project if its going to be up on time!!!

Please get the word so we can finish this project and get Dr. Paul the money he needs.

http://www.pauliticalpress.com/wallpaper/1024_DrNoPestControl.jpg

Christopher
01-30-2008, 11:46 AM
Are we stuck on Flash?

What about another display program?

Any volunteers would be great! If you can make something look good, then please email us!

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 12:55 PM
shameless bump

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 01:15 PM
Flash is the program of choice chris! The database was worked up with flash in mind or so I am told, I am sure there is someone out in the RP forums that can help with the FLASH.


James@pauliticalpress.com

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 02:23 PM
Flash bump!

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 05:41 PM
Up Date!

First I want to say thank you to all the great people in the RP forums for helping Chris and I make this idea a reality!

We have found our flash and server people and it only took 2 hours! WOW Amazing how fast we can work if we all pull together...that is what this movement needs to take us to the convention! umm and money! and that is where we come in;)

http://www.ronpaulmeetupchallenge.com/

The edits for the teaser should also be finished tonight! I hope everyone liked the Dropkick Murphys song "shipping of to Boston" I felt it was appropriate sense Dr.Paul is moving forward to super Tuesday and on to the key original states like Mass.

~James

EastWindRain
01-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Hey James,

What is Chris's username here at RonPaulForums.com . I think Chris lives 1.5 hours away from me. (If I am thinking of the same guy, which I haven't met yet.)

pauliticalpress
01-30-2008, 11:33 PM
I will ask him to PM you!

pauliticalpress
01-31-2008, 02:01 PM
bump for freedom!

Texan4Life
01-31-2008, 04:24 PM
bump

amistybleu
01-31-2008, 04:42 PM
I put a message in to my meetup. Remember, Remember the first of February. :D

pauliticalpress
01-31-2008, 05:40 PM
;)

FreedomFighter8008
01-31-2008, 06:04 PM
++1

pauliticalpress
02-01-2008, 02:27 PM
We are the digital warriors!

http://www.pauliticalpress.com/wallpaper/1024_TheDoctorIsIn.jpg

pauliticalpress
02-01-2008, 08:55 PM
Up Date!!

Ok things are coming along nicely and we are about 75% finished! We have some great supporters here in the RP forums, much better community here then in other sites, thats not to say anything bad about the other guys, just we are better then them:P

But really folks the spirit of freedom and liberty is alive and well and living in the ronpaulforums.com and we would like to thank you all for the community you have provided.

We toned down the teaser site so all the old folks wont be scared of the loud rebel music.

http://www.ronpaulmeetupchallenge.com/