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GHoeberX
01-24-2008, 05:44 PM
When Kucinich was still in the race he said he preferred Ron Paul as running mate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huu2IP7Y71U

Who knows... perhaps Kucinich will endorse Ron Paul, which will show the pundits that Ron Paul is also popular among democrats; something which is rarely being spoken about.

freedom-maniac
01-24-2008, 06:30 PM
I know, I've had that video in my signature for a long time. To bad there are so many Kucinich bashers on the forums who call him a commie gun grabber and don't take enough time to actually study him (this is the same problem with have with people who don't support Ron Paul b/c they think he's a racist truther).

reaver
01-24-2008, 07:42 PM
I may not agree with him on the role of government. But I have always respected the guy for many of the same reasons I respect Paul. It sucks that many talk poorly of him for superficial reasons.

PeaceCandidates.com
01-24-2008, 07:56 PM
He will win the support of many Kucinich people. He should do it now!!

Joe3113
01-24-2008, 08:47 PM
He will win the support of many Kucinich people. He should do it now!!

Wait a bit methinks.

DeadWolfe
01-24-2008, 11:45 PM
What Kucinich people? Seriously, he had negligible public support (sadly).

Kalash
01-25-2008, 01:44 AM
What Kucinich people? Seriously, he had negligible public support (sadly).


Hey - an extra 6% from the Dem's?

And you have to keep in mind that 6% of the dem. vote is about 20% of the Republican vote. (Didn't do the math - general idea to emphasize point)

It's not negligible.

Look at the total number of voters on both sides.

New Hampshire - Hillary and Obama both beat McCain by over 30,000 votes.

Edwards was really close to McCain.

I'll take 6% of the democratic vote - ESPECIALLY during the primaries!

Kalash
01-25-2008, 01:48 AM
Scratch NH.

I can't do math.
Or remember what happened apparently (or the numbers got switched.)

Still - he had more support than Dodds or Gravel.
And every vote helps.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
01-25-2008, 02:01 AM
I was being nice to Kucinich people for the last week. The writing was on the wall when he lost the court case appeal to be in the debate. Man NBC is ruthless.

If the persons main thing is getting out of the war these two are a good match even though different parties.

We welcome anyone and everyone.

noiseordinance
01-25-2008, 02:07 AM
I can't tell you how many people I've spoken to here in Oregon that I thought would like Ron Paul but were, instead, Kucinich supporters.

Dave Pedersen
01-25-2008, 02:09 AM
Kucinich is a real puzzle. How can a guy support the constitution and also support socialism? What am I missing?

the Winner is (R0N P@uL)
01-25-2008, 02:18 AM
Kucinich is a real puzzle. How can a guy support the constitution and also support socialism? What am I missing?


that's defintely not the way to welcome our new friends, is it???????

G-Wohl
01-25-2008, 02:34 AM
I find it fascinating how two men with extremely polar opposite political philosophies (socialist versus libertarian) are actually in agreement with so many things.

Paul and Kucinich both oppose the war, both want our troops home, both favor the end on the war on drugs, both are not in favor of the Patriot Act, and both want to rid of our income tax. Very interesting, no?

Dave Pedersen
01-25-2008, 02:38 AM
that's defintely not the way to welcome our new friends, is it???????

phfftt.. it's just a question. Some people are socialists and they don't apologize for being socialists. I don't apologize for asking an honest question so quit copping me.

Marc Scott Emery
01-25-2008, 02:56 AM
Dennis has been a co-sponsor on many of Congressman Paul's bills in the House, and Ron Paul has been co-sponsor of so many of Dennis Kucinich's bills.

In our survey of key votes in the 2005 & 2006 Congress, Ron Paul has the highest rating by Cannabis Culture (perfect voting record against war on drugs, Iraq, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Broadcast decency Act, Plan Colombia, School of America torture school, anti-marijuana advertising) but Dennis Kucinich was third out of 435 US reps. (Barney Frank was second, Paul's chairman of the Banking Committee). The only vote Dennis & Paul didn't coincide on in those votes studied, was a vote to abolish the ONDCP (The Drug Czar's office of John Walters) in which Paul opposed the budget while Kucinich voted for it, Kucinich's only vote that could be interpreted as pro-drug war.

They both describe the other as a good friend and ally and both admit that their differences are on economic matters, not foreign policy, not drug policy and they usually agree on the interpretation of the US Constitution.

sharkcity
01-25-2008, 03:06 AM
There would be a lot of support if they could get the message of freedom out..
The only two non war monger choices

thuja
01-25-2008, 03:11 AM
There would be a lot of support if they could get the message of freedom out..
The only two non war monger choices

this is how to win. those other so called candidates would not have a chance.

affa
01-25-2008, 03:40 AM
What Kucinich people? Seriously, he had negligible public support (sadly).

More people like Kucinich than would vote for him - that whole 'unelectability' issue again.

More importantly, it would force every honest democrat to take a serious look at Ron Paul. Kucinich is recognized as honest and straight forward, and his support of Paul would go a long way.

Paul/Kucinich 2008 is an unbeatable ticket. Granted, Dr. Paul would have a harder time getting the nomination but that's a different issue - in the general election it's the dream team.

Joe3113
01-25-2008, 04:05 AM
More people like Kucinich than would vote for him - that whole 'unelectability' issue again.

More importantly, it would force every honest democrat to take a serious look at Ron Paul. Kucinich is recognized as honest and straight forward, and his support of Paul would go a long way.

Paul/Kucinich 2008 is an unbeatable ticket. Granted, Dr. Paul would have a harder time getting the nomination but that's a different issue - in the general election it's the dream team.

I like it. It would also make people think about the false left-right paradigm.

DeafPalmdale
01-25-2008, 09:03 AM
Make sure to let the Kucinich supporters switch their party to GOP before deadlines. I guess it is too late for California. :(

liberteebell
01-25-2008, 09:09 AM
What Kucinich people? Seriously, he had negligible public support (sadly).

The only reason you don't hear about his public support is because he got less media time than RP. A lot of my friends support him.

I totally disagree with him on economics but I like his anti-war, pro civil rights record. Plus, I really think he's honest and genuine, just like RP. It would be a hoot and a half if he endorsed RP.

Principle over party, freedom is not a political party and freedom trumps everything else.

DeadWolfe
01-26-2008, 02:14 AM
More people like Kucinich than would vote for him - that whole 'unelectability' issue again.

I suppose that's true. Also, I hope nobody thinks I'm saying there's something wrong with Kucinich, he's as straightforward and honest as Ron Paul, and not many people can say that.

francioshouse
01-26-2008, 07:36 AM
I find it fascinating how two men with extremely polar opposite political philosophies (socialist versus libertarian) are actually in agreement with so many things.

Actually, if you do your research in political theory you'll find that "true Socialism" and Libertarianism are very similar. Both ideologies have the goal of eliminating government. the difference is in the means by which they achieve that goal. True Socialism calls for a huge build up of government that forces people to behave in a certain way, then generations later when they become accustomed to those behaviors, Karl Marx believed you could dismantle the government and people would just continue to behave properly.

Libertarianism, on the other hand, chooses to eliminate the government "cold turkey" and after a period of chaos ensues people will settle into proper behavior out of necessity for survival.

qh4dotcom
01-26-2008, 10:44 AM
I find it hard to believe that Ron Paul will find a compatible running mate. Who else thinks like him?

affa
01-26-2008, 11:25 AM
Kucinich is a real puzzle. How can a guy support the constitution and also support socialism? What am I missing?

The first step to understanding is to stop viewing it as
LEFT ------------ RIGHT

and to begin viewing it as a circle.

Freedom is the point where both sides touch.

Chuang-Tzu
01-26-2008, 01:16 PM
The first step to understanding is to stop viewing it as
LEFT ------------ RIGHT

and to begin viewing it as a circle.

Freedom is the point where both sides touch.

Beautifully stated! Nature works in circles not lines or squares.

dannno
01-26-2008, 01:21 PM
I find it hard to believe that Ron Paul will find a compatible running mate. Who else thinks like him?

Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson is pretty close. He gave Ron Paul an endorsement, too.

Kotin
01-26-2008, 02:39 PM
Kucinich is a real puzzle. How can a guy support the constitution and also support socialism? What am I missing?

man thats basically slander.


he is not a socialist. he has different ideas than RP but if Ron respects him so do I

RustyBrewster
01-26-2008, 03:27 PM
Kucinich is a real puzzle. How can a guy support the constitution and also support socialism? What am I missing?

Misinterpretation of the general welfare clause and it's intent.

Also, with an amendment socialism could be constitutional.

christagious
01-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Can you really see him endorsing Ron Paul?

He already told his supporters before if he doesn't make it to vote for Obama. I think Obama will get the endorsement.

It might give Ron Paul a bad name if he got that endorsement anyways. He gets enough shit because of his truther supporters. Imagine if a candidate who claims to have seen a UFO and heard aliens talk to him endorsed Ron Paul

Ian A.
01-26-2008, 04:29 PM
Don't speak so soon. Jimmy Carter was very candid about seeing a UFO once.

Aratus
02-29-2008, 05:15 PM
true... he actually got more witty remarks said about the rabbit
that went near his canoe! yep... jimmy carter ALSO had a ufo sighting!

Kotin
02-29-2008, 05:22 PM
Dennis has been a co-sponsor on many of Congressman Paul's bills in the House, and Ron Paul has been co-sponsor of so many of Dennis Kucinich's bills.

In our survey of key votes in the 2005 & 2006 Congress, Ron Paul has the highest rating by Cannabis Culture (perfect voting record against war on drugs, Iraq, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Broadcast decency Act, Plan Colombia, School of America torture school, anti-marijuana advertising) but Dennis Kucinich was third out of 435 US reps. (Barney Frank was second, Paul's chairman of the Banking Committee). The only vote Dennis & Paul didn't coincide on in those votes studied, was a vote to abolish the ONDCP (The Drug Czar's office of John Walters) in which Paul opposed the budget while Kucinich voted for it, Kucinich's only vote that could be interpreted as pro-drug war.

They both describe the other as a good friend and ally and both admit that their differences are on economic matters, not foreign policy, not drug policy and they usually agree on the interpretation of the US Constitution.

thanks!

i gotta say i love Dennis.

Bruno
02-29-2008, 05:22 PM
Don't speak so soon. Jimmy Carter was very candid about seeing a UFO once.

Reagan had conversations with Gorbachev about UFO's as well. :cool:

"At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S. President said that if the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the United States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis, though I think it's early yet to worry about such an intrusion..."

http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/ronald_reagan_ufo.htm

RP4EVER
02-29-2008, 09:43 PM
with Ohio coming up has anyone heard about Kucinich asking his constituents/supporters to support Ron Paul

Aratus
03-04-2008, 09:35 AM
after ohio... also how about askin him if he LOOSES his seat up there
if he'd be willin' to go along with say... RAND PAUL this november? like
this could put pressure on the the TWO major candidates to take BOTH
DENNIS KUCINICH and Ralph Nader seriously! Or even the Constitution,
Libertarian or Green candidates... i am both irish and scots-irish... so
half~yankee me was thinkin' of esoterically votin' green... as march 17th looms! the pull
of the auld sod! yes! i like the color green. Rand Paul + Dennis Kucinich would
pull my eyes away from either a McCain v.Clinton or McCain v. Obama match!